Study: Proposed Anthony, NM casino co...

Study: Proposed Anthony, NM casino could be a jackpot

There are 45 comments on the El Paso Times story from Jun 6, 2011, titled Study: Proposed Anthony, NM casino could be a jackpot. In it, El Paso Times reports that:

An off-reservation casino proposed for Anthony, N.M., by a northern New Mexico pueblo would generate about $157.2 million in economic activity and about 1,490 jobs in its fifth year, when operations reach full hilt, a federal analysis found.

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MCA

El Paso, TX

#1 Jun 6, 2011
Anyone who opposes this project is a short-sighted, narrow minded dolt.

It obviously would be good for both states, and make the general region much more appealing to retirees, tourists and job seekers and other types of developers, such as other hotels, etc. What is Anthony, NM now? Besides being known for gang-banging activity... Exactly. Let the place make a mark for itself in a successful way.

For the self-righteous opposed to gambling...get off your pedestal and let us know when all of your stores stop selling lotto tickets of every kind every second of every day...then you can talk.
Mr-D ElPaso

United States

#2 Jun 6, 2011
What activity and job are going to be taken from the high rolling city of ElPaso?
Meow

Albuquerque, NM

#3 Jun 6, 2011
MCA wrote:
Anyone who opposes this project is a short-sighted, narrow minded dolt.
It obviously would be good for both states, and make the general region much more appealing to retirees, tourists and job seekers and other types of developers, such as other hotels, etc. What is Anthony, NM now? Besides being known for gang-banging activity... Exactly. Let the place make a mark for itself in a successful way.
For the self-righteous opposed to gambling...get off your pedestal and let us know when all of your stores stop selling lotto tickets of every kind every second of every day...then you can talk.
So the casino will change Anthony into a peaceful, chockfull of jobs, paradise? I think you are the short-sighted one.

All the casino will do is amplify the problems in Anthony, it won't change a thing. This casino won't give jobs to 'gang-bangers', those people will just run to the casino to spend money, trying to hit it big. The casino won't hire these 'gang-bangers'.

Gambling is a tax on the poor and those that can't do math. We don't need another place where our least fortunate are giving money to a Indian casino, the lotto already does that and gives it to the government.
Sam

Copperas Cove, TX

#4 Jun 6, 2011
Casinos stimulate the economy by sucking money out of the poorly educated.

These economic studies exclude the sociological aspect of the casino impact, including crime, stress on families, and exacerbation of addictive gambling tendencies.

Sure, they generate profit, but that profit comes at a strong cost to surrounding communities.
Reality Check

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#5 Jun 6, 2011
Good for business, bad for consumer's debts in a struggling economy.
FFS

Clatskanie, OR

#6 Jun 6, 2011
Reality Check wrote:
Good for business, bad for consumer's debts in a struggling economy.
I agree to an extent. I would like to add, however, that there's a possibility of a LOT more blue-hairs making their casino trips to an area that has more than just one casino (Sunland). This could very well be a good thing.
Ex El Pasoan

Green River, UT

#7 Jun 6, 2011
An invitation for higher crime, and criminals! Just look at some of the resident's of Westway, Texas, Vinton, Canutillo, Anthony, TX/N.M. and surrounding areas.
really

Mira Loma, CA

#8 Jun 6, 2011
I still remember the little girl I saw doing her homework at a table near the santa teresa race track. her mom was at the slots wasting money. Hundreds of families will be destroyed by this proposed casino. No way to sugar coat it. people would rather feed cat food to their kids than stop gambling.
Ex El Pasoan

Green River, UT

#9 Jun 6, 2011
Oh, I forgot to mentioned..........who patrol's the area? El Paso's Sheriff Department does not do a good job, The town of Vinton does not care, Anthony, Tx/N.M. do they have a police force?
MCA

El Paso, TX

#10 Jun 6, 2011
Meow wrote:
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So the casino will change Anthony into a peaceful, chockfull of jobs, paradise? I think you are the short-sighted one.
All the casino will do is amplify the problems in Anthony, it won't change a thing. This casino won't give jobs to 'gang-bangers', those people will just run to the casino to spend money, trying to hit it big. The casino won't hire these 'gang-bangers'.
Gambling is a tax on the poor and those that can't do math. We don't need another place where our least fortunate are giving money to a Indian casino, the lotto already does that and gives it to the government.
I'm not saying to 'hire the gang-bangers' fool, I meant, let the town try to be known for something other than gang activities.

It's Anthony, NM. Please. Look at the housing, look at the town itself. It can only get better there, not worse.

Now look at Ruidoso and Albuquerque. Both have multiple casinos/racetracks. Do you honestly think that Anthony, NM somehow has a better economy, better crime rate, and better overall quality of life that is superior to those cities. NO way. You know it.
They are more desirable places to live, partly because of the money, jobs, and development from those entertainment options.

Again, get off of your high horses. Alcohol, lotto sales, cigarettes, are all things that can be extremely addictive, yet are available for adult consumption. The weakness of those who can't handle them have not dictated the availability to those of thus who ARE able to handle them without being addicts. Just like a bar selling alcohol is not illegal, even though it can lead to alcoholism, casinos should be an entertainment option for those of us who can handle moderation.
FOCUS

El Paso, TX

#11 Jun 6, 2011
That net gain would be from the truckers and other freeway traffic. The losses to Sunland Park race track and the Western Playland area may be greater than they think. Do we really need two casinos this close to each other?
The casinos on Hwy 70 and the Ruidoso Downs race track had to have hurt the casino at Inn of the Mountain Gods?
Is This What NM Needs

United States

#12 Jun 6, 2011
1. Sunland Casino has to pay 25% of their GROSS to the State.

2. Anthony Casino will only pay 6% of their NET...if you are even allowed to see their books....Soverign Nation, you know.

3. California Indian Casinos have been infiltrated by the Mexican Mafia/Cartels, according to several newspaper articles in last 2-3 years.

4. Anthony Tribe has NO connection to this area, while Akela Casino Tribe roamed SW-NM and SE-AZ....the Mescellaro Apaches!
MCA

El Paso, TX

#13 Jun 6, 2011
FOCUS wrote:
That net gain would be from the truckers and other freeway traffic. The losses to Sunland Park race track and the Western Playland area may be greater than they think. Do we really need two casinos this close to each other?
The casinos on Hwy 70 and the Ruidoso Downs race track had to have hurt the casino at Inn of the Mountain Gods?
About Ruidoso, both establishments have been open for MANY many years...so they have co-existed.

Don't forget that having a second destination might even be good for Sunland, as it would make the overall appeal of coming to the area better. When I visit Vegas, I don't go to just 1 casino and stay there the whole time. Think about it.

Also, I don't hear an outcry of Sunland residents to close the racetrack down either. Doesn't appear to be a crime ridden town. In fact, they'd likely be upset if there was talk that the racetrack/casino would be closing down because there are too many gambling addicts being created. Silly arguments.
Rey

El Paso, TX

#14 Jun 6, 2011
Why not renovate Sunland park? It's a;lready established, turn it into a first class casino.
Ben

El Paso, TX

#15 Jun 6, 2011
The argument that people who are irresponsible with their money... so they will blow it at the casino... give me a break. Irresponsible people are not created from a casino. They will blow their money on lottery tickets, alcohol, etc. That argument is completely irrelavant. Poverty is not created by a casino. It is created by lazy people who are uneducated and make poor decisions. Only good parents who work hard and do things right with their money and a great economy will get people out of poverty. Blaming it on a casino is stupid.
Give me a Break

El Paso, TX

#16 Jun 6, 2011
Some competition is needed. The Sunland Park Casio is run down and the smoking is unbearable. Something needs to get done!
Ben

El Paso, TX

#17 Jun 6, 2011
Is This What NM Needs wrote:
1. Sunland Casino has to pay 25% of their GROSS to the State.
2. Anthony Casino will only pay 6% of their NET...if you are even allowed to see their books....Soverign Nation, you know.
3. California Indian Casinos have been infiltrated by the Mexican Mafia/Cartels, according to several newspaper articles in last 2-3 years.
4. Anthony Tribe has NO connection to this area, while Akela Casino Tribe roamed SW-NM and SE-AZ....the Mescellaro Apaches!
Cartels infiltrating Indian Casinos? What? lol. Obviously you must be working for Sunland Park Casino. If Sunland wants to have the only Casino (if you call that a casino with only slots)... then Sunland should have gone for table games. Sunland should lose all their business.
google

Austin, TX

#18 Jun 6, 2011
just do it!!! People need jobs.UTEP and EPCC students need jobs. Look at Alburquerque with all of their casinos- we need to keep money here and stop going up to Ruidoso or Burque (slang for Alburquerque for the walking "spell checks" who have nothing to do but say "where did u go 2 skool? u dont know how 2 spell"...lol!!!
Meow

Albuquerque, NM

#19 Jun 6, 2011
MCA wrote:
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I'm not saying to 'hire the gang-bangers' fool, I meant, let the town try to be known for something other than gang activities.
It's Anthony, NM. Please. Look at the housing, look at the town itself. It can only get better there, not worse.
So all those gang-bangers would just go away? And that low income housing just disappears, since the casino is there? You're an idiot to think that anything would change positively in that town with a casino there. Money doesn't make your problems go away, it just amplifies the problems you have. You're blind to the fact that the town has problems and the casino won't fix them.
MCA wrote:
Now look at Ruidoso and Albuquerque. Both have multiple casinos/racetracks. Do you honestly think that Anthony, NM somehow has a better economy, better crime rate, and better overall quality of life that is superior to those cities. NO way. You know it.
They are more desirable places to live, partly because of the money, jobs, and development from those entertainment options.
Are you kidding me? Comparing Ruidoso which has a huge tax base, full of rich people paying taxes on their summer homes and huge recreational activities, to Anthony? Even if Ruidoso didnt have a casino, it would be a recreational haven.

And even Albuqurque, which has ridiculous crime, has other things to do beside gamble, the place didn't become a boom town because of the Indian casinos. I wouldn't live in Albuquerque, even if right up against the mountain.
MCA wrote:
Again, get off of your high horses. Alcohol, lotto sales, cigarettes, are all things that can be extremely addictive, yet are available for adult consumption. The weakness of those who can't handle them have not dictated the availability to those of thus who ARE able to handle them without being addicts. Just like a bar selling alcohol is not illegal, even though it can lead to alcoholism, casinos should be an entertainment option for those of us who can handle moderation.
HAHAHAHA Hypocrite, its sounds like you're the one that's sitting on the high horse. You say since it doesn't affect you, it shouldn't be a problem, when millions of people are affected negatively by gambling, but "not your problem, since you are better than everyone else". We don't need this casino in Anthony and you are stupid to think that it won't affect anything.
Joe

El Paso, TX

#20 Jun 6, 2011
I say get the casino. It's about time something was done with Sunland monopolizing casino. Anthony would be a great place and hopefully speaking rock will open soon too.

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