Off-site tribal casinos get second look

Off-site tribal casinos get second look

There are 18 comments on the The Santa Fe New Mexican story from Oct 3, 2009, titled Off-site tribal casinos get second look. In it, The Santa Fe New Mexican reports that:

Nearly two years ago, the Department of the Interior rejected a proposal by Jemez Pueblo to build a casino resort south of Las Cruces, saying that the project, almost 300 miles from the pueblo, was too far away to provide jobs for tribal members.

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Since: Sep 08

Las Vegas, NM

#1 Oct 4, 2009
This is a bad idea in that an off-site casino benefits very few and encourages more people to gamble away money that is needed elsewhere. What the Jemez people and other tribes around the country do on their land is their business but this is not on their land and that makes it our business. New Mexico citizens rank near the bottom of earned income and they don't need anyone else trying to take badly needed funds away.

Gab

“Surrounded by Libs.”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#2 Oct 4, 2009
Milton Deemer wrote:
This is a bad idea in that an off-site casino benefits very few and encourages more people to gamble away money that is needed elsewhere. What the Jemez people and other tribes around the country do on their land is their business but this is not on their land and that makes it our business. New Mexico citizens rank near the bottom of earned income and they don't need anyone else trying to take badly needed funds away.
The 2 casinos where I am are hurting,along with everybody else in the area.
They pay the state 25% of their slot revenues every month and are now the states biggest employers.
In typical gov't. fashion our state is looking for new creative ways to tax the 2 tribes.
kuklinski

Ludlow, MA

#3 Oct 4, 2009
Think of all the downrown merchants
who had to move out because Peters,
who "owns" Santa Fe, hiked their rent.

Peter's response: "Bah, humbug!"
Interior of corruption

Fountain Hills, AZ

#4 Oct 4, 2009
Let me see, more casino's the Interior is on the ball helping americans and leading the way for economic disparity. Maybe we can all work for the casino. What a sick joke the Native american culture has become,more casinos is thier answer to the future...Between the bankers and the slot machines americans can kiss goodbye their hard earned moeny. What the people of Anthony dont realize is they are soveriegn grant lands thenselves and they if they should choose they could have their own casino. Why should the Northern NM continue to profit while holding the south down....They are stealing their water... wake up Mesilla its time to take back what is yours. The Department of Interior stole your lands and water one hundred years ago and still taking more...
Ugh

Albuquerque, NM

#5 Oct 4, 2009
What I'd like to see, an off-rez Indian casino next door to every racetrack in the state. The scumbag greedy rich developers vs. the money-grubbing gambling Indians. Let them put each other out of business.
Native Justice

Poway, CA

#6 Oct 4, 2009
No sympathy whatsoever for Peters.

But after the methodical genocide and greedy (land grab) oppression in all forms by the USA, the indigenous Native Americans deserve all reasonable opportunities to recover and redirect their nations. If some white folks cannot restrain their quest for big winning at a casino, it is just that same greed boomeranging back.
Get it right

Fountain Hills, AZ

#7 Oct 4, 2009
Native Justice you are right greed is not good for anyone, native or non native. I myself go to the casino for crab legs and win sometimes too. Yes the Native Americans were taken, I just think they deserve more economic statue then gambling on peoples weaknesses. Many casinos are full of native Americans also playing to win and loose just like there fellow non native. I myself think under a 14th Amendment argument that anyone should be able to open a casino native or non-native.

I want a casino too. But if I had my way, the casino would be exclusive for all people's education and health services native and non native. As for a casino in Southern New Mexico, why cant the grant lands of Southern New Mexico have their own casino, who's communty's also should carry with it such standing as granted to the American Pueblos under the same body of law, the HidalgoTreaty of 1848.
french dip

Santa Fe, NM

#8 Oct 4, 2009
Milton Deemer wrote:
This is a bad idea in that an off-site casino benefits very few and encourages more people to gamble away money that is needed elsewhere. What the Jemez people and other tribes around the country do on their land is their business but this is not on their land and that makes it our business. New Mexico citizens rank near the bottom of earned income and they don't need anyone else trying to take badly needed funds away.
Your comment "trying to take badly needed funds away" is a joke. I cant stand people like you thinking you are the keeper of all. It is NOT YOUR obligation to guide people in their spending habits. Maybe YOU can't control your own spending but there are many that can. I do not drink, I do not go to movies, and I do not take regular vacations. My entertainment is at the casino 2 or 3 nights a week. As an adult, I know how much I can spend while there. Either in a meal or in a slot machine. I don't need you generalizing about the casino trying to take my badly needed money away. We are all individually responsible for our own financial success.
french dip

Santa Fe, NM

#9 Oct 4, 2009
kuklinski wrote:
Think of all the downrown merchants
who had to move out because Peters,
who "owns" Santa Fe, hiked their rent.
Peter's response: "Bah, humbug!"
So explain to me how it would benfit Mr. Peters to have his buildings sit vacant?
Drink The Hive

Orlando, FL

#10 Oct 4, 2009
America Is A Big Casino,We Have This Big Casino So Called The Federal Reserve They Play With Our Money Without The American People Authoritazation,Why Can We Play With Our Money In Every Corner Of This Country If We Want 2.

Choice.
Not in Ill

United States

#11 Oct 4, 2009
french dip wrote:
<quoted text>
Your comment "trying to take badly needed funds away" is a joke. I cant stand people like you thinking you are the keeper of all. It is NOT YOUR obligation to guide people in their spending habits. Maybe YOU can't control your own spending but there are many that can. I do not drink, I do not go to movies, and I do not take regular vacations. My entertainment is at the casino 2 or 3 nights a week. As an adult, I know how much I can spend while there. Either in a meal or in a slot machine. I don't need you generalizing about the casino trying to take my badly needed money away. We are all individually responsible for our own financial success.
Well then do not include yourself in the generalisation but do not pretend that gambling is a social Ill and that it does not have a direct co relation poverty. Because it does.
I'm sure there anre many responsable gamblers like you, usually they can afford to loose money, most cannot and continue to gamble and you and I pick up the tab when they cannot afford food, heat and medical treatment.
french dip

Santa Fe, NM

#13 Oct 4, 2009
elvatoloco wrote:
**** Indios, they should stay in their own reservations. Taking care of mother earth my a--! You have done enough damage already. Not in my back yard, stay on your side of the fence! You indians think you can do what you want, I live here too, hispanics are fed up with your casinos.
Tell that to someone who works at the casino and counts on that income to pay their bills and keep food on the table. The pueblo's here arent reservations. They own their own land in fee simple.
Ron paul

Albuquerque, NM

#14 Oct 4, 2009
Drink The Hive wrote:
America Is A Big Casino,We Have This Big Casino So Called The Federal Reserve They Play With Our Money Without The American People Authoritazation,Why Can We Play With Our Money In Every Corner Of This Country If We Want 2.
Choice.
wackos out this week
NDN

Woodford, VA

#15 Oct 5, 2009
**** Indios, they should stay in their own reservations. Taking care of mother earth my a--! You have done enough damage already. Not in my back yard, stay on your side of the fence! You indians think you can do what you want, I live here too, hispanics are fed up with your casinos.
WELL YOU HISPANICS ARE JUST AS NATIVE AS THEY COME! DAMAGE IS LETTING PEOPLE LIKE YOU LIVE ON THIS MOTHER EARTH! SINCE WHEN WAS IT YOUR BACK YARD? THERE ARE A FEW CASINOS THAT HELP OUT YOUR HISPANICS WHO ARE NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT THEIR MONEY!ANYWAYS..... MY BACKYARD!!!!
Corruption Studies Instit

Tallahassee, FL

#16 Oct 7, 2009
Tom Udall doublespeak - saying nothing while looking for more campaign cash.
Water wise

Santa Fe, NM

#17 Oct 7, 2009
Trouble is the Casinos have bought and paid for our politicians. They will control the water and our future.
sam

Albuquerque, NM

#18 Oct 7, 2009
From what I understand and have researched, many of the casino's in NM, are owned by the banks and the gangsters as well as the US Govt.
Many casino's pay the state tax (16%) average per casino, Federal tax gets THEIR cut from the winnings and Employee paychecks too.
And concerning about WHO is employed at those casino's, after counting heads at many of the casino's around ABQ and Santa Fe, MY estimate would be (70%) Non-Indian and (30%) Tribal Members... That don't seem RIGHT (in a Catholic OR Christian sense, now does it?
Seems to ME, that the Non-Indians benefit the most from that type of business.
I'm surprised that the NON-INDIANs didn't get PROSTITUTION legal in those places by now. LMAO!!
Anyway, ya DORK of a dude, did YOU ever realize that all that Casino style GAMBLING, is a WHITE MAN thing... SHEEESH!
As for the WATER issue, SORRY ABOUT THAT!!
The Pueblo and Navajo tribes are always fighting for THEIR water rights..
I'll be checking back on this...
:P
Interior of corruption wrote:
Let me see, more casino's the Interior is on the ball helping americans and leading the way for economic disparity. Maybe we can all work for the casino. What a sick joke the Native american culture has become,more casinos is thier answer to the future...Between the bankers and the slot machines americans can kiss goodbye their hard earned moeny. What the people of Anthony dont realize is they are soveriegn grant lands thenselves and they if they should choose they could have their own casino. Why should the Northern NM continue to profit while holding the south down....They are stealing their water... wake up Mesilla its time to take back what is yours. The Department of Interior stole your lands and water one hundred years ago and still taking more...
sam

Albuquerque, NM

#19 Oct 7, 2009
Hey, CHILE PEELER, YOUR on OUR LAND.
DUM BUTT, learn to use spell check...
So....Hey, then why don't YOU and YOUR MEXICAN folk, head back across the Jornada del Muerto and back to MEXICO, where your people originated from..
It bad enough YOUR people abandon THEIR own country, instead of trying to fix THEIR problems...
Then come here to MY backyard and THINK that THEY BELONG here..
As for the Casino problem of YOURS, IT a WHITE MAN thing, ya DORK...
ROFL!!
Try reading something else instead of the newspaper, YOU might learn a thing or two about what YOUR race.
Its NO WONDER, Albuquerque doesn't want another CHILE CHOKER to ruin the city!

LOL!

I'll be checking on this too...I'm ready to spar with ya...:P

bbl
NDN wrote:
**** Indios, they should stay in their own reservations. Taking care of mother earth my a--! You have done enough damage already. Not in my back yard, stay on your side of the fence! You indians think you can do what you want, I live here too, hispanics are fed up with your casinos.
WELL YOU HISPANICS ARE JUST AS NATIVE AS THEY COME! DAMAGE IS LETTING PEOPLE LIKE YOU LIVE ON THIS MOTHER EARTH! SINCE WHEN WAS IT YOUR BACK YARD? THERE ARE A FEW CASINOS THAT HELP OUT YOUR HISPANICS WHO ARE NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT THEIR MONEY!ANYWAYS..... MY BACKYARD!!!!

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