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Why is most of Council & Planning Commission Afraid Of Mayor Les

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lucy

Knoxville, TN

#1 Feb 4, 2012
Just wondering why most of the City Council & most of the Planning Commission are AFRAID TO VOTE NO on some of the BS stuff that the Mayor wants like the Walking Trail down in the Flood Plain, hello the Citizens of Branam Hill don't even have Sidewalks.The Sidewalks on South End stop at Mrs. Chitwoods right before Myrtle Street, looks to me like Sidewalks need to be Built in these Areas, after all the Citizens on that end of Town need Sidewalks & maybe just maybe Sewer needs to be put in if its not allready there for the ones that want it, they pay Taxes the same as all the other Citizens. just Saying.
walking trail

Griffin, GA

#2 Feb 4, 2012
The walking trail is an excellent idea. It was proposed before Les became mayor. Lucy, a walking trail might really do you and some of the other overweight trouble makers a lot of good. If you are concerned about sidewalks, why don't you get a gang of Branam Hill residents to come to a planning meeting rather than complain on Topix. it would be a more effective strategy.
Answered

Knoxville, TN

#3 Feb 4, 2012
walking trail wrote:
The walking trail is an excellent idea. It was proposed before Les became mayor. Lucy, a walking trail might really do you and some of the other overweight trouble makers a lot of good. If you are concerned about sidewalks, why don't you get a gang of Branam Hill residents to come to a planning meeting rather than complain on Topix. it would be a more effective strategy.
A walking trail is ludicrous along with the his bid for annexation which neither will benefit Jellico along with the following statements below!
There is nothing the citizens can do that is more effective than Mayor Stiers trying to shove his ideas down the boards throats and the citizens also. Board meetings are a joke. The fire flying from his face when the annexation failed on Thursday was priceless. Wish everyone of the citizen that are against the idea would have seen it.
His ideas are nothing more than "his" and no one else's. Take the old Church they purchased "his idea," firing of Betherum "his idea," hiring Rowe "his idea," abolishing power board "his idea," raising the amount of pay for the new utility board members (which is illegal) "his idea," and last but not least the huge salary increases for a few electric department workers "his idea."
All the above was Stiers idea and shoved down the boards throat. I think most on the board along with the citizens of the town have become very suspicious of his actions. The workers (employees) of the city on both sides are so dictated to (by him) and afraid of losing their jobs if they speak out against his wishes and this has already happened accordingly in a couple recent occasions.
He has appointed people to his boards that he could manipulate to his advantage, but to his surprise at the planning meeting his push was met by defiance.
We will see in the coming future that he will replace those against his ideas with others that he thinks will follow his instructions. This has got to come to an end.
Fellow citizens it's time for a recall to replace the mayor and possible member or two of the board for misleading the public, meeting behind closed doors along with board memebers and many violations of the city charter, city ordinances and furthermore violating the state law on certain statutes.
Give us some feedback on these following issues!!!!!

walking trail

Griffin, GA

#4 Feb 4, 2012
The walking trail coupled with a wetlands park wildife viewing area and a putting green for golfers was actually suggested by Mike Bethurem and others. It was presented and discussed at several public meetings of the Watershed Council. It sounds like you have a bone to pick, but you need to be made aware of all the facts surrounding this well developed plan that had a lot of citizen input. You my friend are dead wrong. A famous wildlife biologist was even called down to the city and tests were performed on that watershed basin. All cities have walking trails and they are the one thing that ordinary citizens and tourists alike can enjoy. The excellent idea proposed to link the downtown trails with the State Park trails which would encourage good health as well as give tourists something enjoyable to do. Become more informed and less bitter. You would seek to take away one of the few things that would benefit the citizens of Jellico in a very positive way.
election

Knoxville, TN

#5 Feb 5, 2012
We have a walking trail at the park. Les is on his way out he has caused more trouble in this town then any Mayor in the history of jellico. The city workers hate him and know if they say anything he will have them fired. Looks like he would try to get main street paved or fix the sidewalks or something that would help Jellico instead of making everyone mad, He has people that has been friends for years mad at each other because he has to have it his way or he gets mad at everyone thats against him. I voted for him and that was a big MISTAKE. Tha people of jellico don't want you LES so quit pushing all this crap on us, You have forgot who you work for, We will show you next election, Your fired.
Fat Boy

Sevierville, TN

#6 Feb 5, 2012
walking trail wrote:
The walking trail coupled with a wetlands park wildife viewing area and a putting green for golfers was actually suggested by Mike Bethurem and others. It was presented and discussed at several public meetings of the Watershed Council. It sounds like you have a bone to pick, but you need to be made aware of all the facts surrounding this well developed plan that had a lot of citizen input. You my friend are dead wrong. A famous wildlife biologist was even called down to the city and tests were performed on that watershed basin. All cities have walking trails and they are the one thing that ordinary citizens and tourists alike can enjoy. The excellent idea proposed to link the downtown trails with the State Park trails which would encourage good health as well as give tourists something enjoyable to do. Become more informed and less bitter. You would seek to take away one of the few things that would benefit the citizens of Jellico in a very positive way.
Agreed the nature trail woild be a good thing for us fatties, but it is not a priorty by a long shot. And true it is in a flood prone area, thats why frog level was condemed years ago by the city, you can correct me if I'm wrong. With that said common sence would tell you the long term issues with maintenance, flood debris, and the filthy scum that is left behind when the flood waters recede will be an ongoing problem with this project, I wonder if the experts thought of this? The state currently provides ample trails for anyone that wants to use them at no cost to the city. And the city could probably come out cheaper in the long run to operate a shuttle to and from the park for those that are to lazy to walk the 1/2 mile or less to the park! The mayor and his council should put more effort into getting Jellico headed forward in a positive way business, jobs, infrastructure, etc. its all about order of importance its not that hard to understand!
walking trail

Griffin, GA

#7 Feb 5, 2012
Actually what was proposed was a stream restoration that would take care of some of the problems with flooding while providing a series of small wetland which would provide a lot of habitiat for wildlife as well as excellent viewing stations for tourists. In addition, the dirt from the stream restoration would have been used to improve the baseball fields and the proposed driving range would have built on local citizen's interest and provided something for out of town people to do in Jellico as well. The project Betherum and others envisioned would have been a model for the country and people would have come from a lot of places to check it out and walk the wetland park thus creating a lot of econmmoic opportunity. Ample trails? Maybe you would lose a little weight and change your opinion if you could visit a few of the towns that have dramatically changed their economies by investing in better trails. Have you heard of the Creeper Trail? Are you familliar with the new greenway trails at Cumberland Gap? Have you heard of the Cumberland Trail? Guess what Jellico cuts itself off from five major trails in our area. A lot of forward thinking people would like to see the expansion of Indian Mountain Park and a greenway corridor to Daniel Boone National Forest. There have been several community wide meetings where people have stated that they in fact wanted more trails and the positive ecomomic impacts that they bring. Roy Price has suggested a new trail that would tie into existing trails. YOur shuttle idea is the one that is backwards and it is people like you that will keep Jellico in the Dark Ages. You have to strike out and do something spectacular if you want to impact this community. The old ways of dividing and conquering and tightly controlling change is the reason Jellico is where they are at. Everyone knows that the families have always fought one another and the city councilor's fight like imbeciles so that instead of jellico being a model for change it has always been a laughing stock. That was going on long before Stiers got here so who do you have to blame besides yourself Fat Boy?
dirty harry

Knoxville, TN

#8 Feb 5, 2012
don't think their afraid of him especially after Jerry Sharp shoved his words back down his throat. Was a wonderful day in the life of the people that were there to witness that and it was awesome.
Les had the gall to tell the reporter that he lost the fight but the war wasn't over. Glad to see him brought down off his high horse. may be hard for him to climb back on that horse again.
waste of money

United States

#9 Feb 5, 2012
instead of fooling with a waling trail whihc is what gonnago in circles, and you say people will come from all around that will help bring people into the city, but you are forgetting that it ins't gonna help the growth because there is no where to spend any of their money. they need a grocery store or a wal mart or a kmart or even a big lots. i mean come on a walking trail is gonna have business' booming. i don't know who you are except for being one of les' flunkes but get real here. jobs is something les swore to bring in so where are they. people need a walking trail like les needs another grant to use for some crazy building again for the city to have to pay for. there is so much debt he has brought to jellico that is all he has brought. so please explain how this walking trail is gonna bring more money here. maybe if the people want to stay in a motel or eat that is it. nothing else here the people that come to use the state park to camp has to make sure they bring plenty of food or go across state line to sav a lot to eat. where is the jobs les come on do tell where is oreillys that was coming here wher eis the oil refinery. see my point.les needs gone like they said before it is his way or no way he could care less what anyone else wants but les
Wetland Park and Trails

Griffin, GA

#10 Feb 5, 2012
Tom Biebighauser, A specialist at the Center for Wetlands & Stream Restoration US Forest Service came to Jellico and did an assessment of the flood plain site BEFORE Stiers became mayor. A large crowd came out and expressed interest in a stream restoration and wetland park in this undeveloped. This was to be a model for stream restoration and a lot of jobs are created when tourists actually have something to do rather than sit in a motel room. As it stands, Jellico does not have a lot to offer tourists or citizens. Walking trails, wetland parks, and driving ranges when they are planned by professionals (as mentioned above) are considered a valuable community amenity. I don't think there's anyone in Jellico capable of planning very much at a professional level, but there are experts like Biebighauser that would be more than willing to help little towns like Jellico to meet the 21st century with grace and style. A lot of us were excited that Stiers was willing to even listen to new ideas for improving the community. That was in fact a new development with politics in Jellico. I doubt the old, inbred families are willing to let too much change happen. Some of them own land in the flood plain. They like keeping business development limited to their own and agitate the uneducated to fight everything that challenges the status quo. For more information on the economic impact of trails: http://www.americantrails.org/resources/econo...
waste of money

United States

#11 Feb 6, 2012
ok so fine the wet lands would be a great thing if there was soething else here for the tourist to come to. you think that a driving range and a walking trail that may or may not be under water then tourist come to see it will be a good thing. fine. but as you said this is not the mayors doing as you pointed out this was something that was in the making before he became mayor. but see you imbred people can't think for yourselfs you have to run with someone elses ideas what has the mayor started other than trouble. and he has sure stirred alot of it up and as for you and your imbred family keep posting on topix here and stirring the pot. that is all you are fit for is running your mouth and talking about other people that wants the best for our town.
Wetland Park and Trails

Griffin, GA

#12 Feb 6, 2012
Sure inbred people can think and even go to college. I just don't know anyone from Jellico that resides here possesses an advanced planning degree from an accredited university. Do you know someone? Jellico has a lot of examples of poorly planned projects that remain unused. These are more often than not a waste of money. When you are using taxpayer's money it shouldn't be any easier to go ahead with a plan to build something or buy a building than it is for your common man to get that same loan from the bank. Any Knoxville bank would require a business plan because they have a duty to protect their investor's resources. Jellico sometimes tries to operate with its own rules not utilizing professional planning. Planning requires a series of steps or checklist to make sure a project is self-sustaining or can generate enough revenue to make it feasible. Someone with an Masters in Business Administration (MBA)could perform a Feasibility study/business plan. There are a couple of people that have those degrees that work in Jellico. I think they need to be consulted about most of the decisions being made that involve an expenditure of funds. I am not about to get on the wagon to condemn the mayor. I haven't looked at any of the financial documents and so my opinion is just a TOPIX opinion, everyone has one, and none of them amount to very much in the real world.
lucy

Knoxville, TN

#13 Feb 6, 2012
Wetland Park and Trails wrote:
Tom Biebighauser, A specialist at the Center for Wetlands & Stream Restoration US Forest Service came to Jellico and did an assessment of the flood plain site BEFORE Stiers became mayor. A large crowd came out and expressed interest in a stream restoration and wetland park in this undeveloped. This was to be a model for stream restoration and a lot of jobs are created when tourists actually have something to do rather than sit in a motel room. As it stands, Jellico does not have a lot to offer tourists or citizens. Walking trails, wetland parks, and driving ranges when they are planned by professionals (as mentioned above) are considered a valuable community amenity. I don't think there's anyone in Jellico capable of planning very much at a professional level, but there are experts like Biebighauser that would be more than willing to help little towns like Jellico to meet the 21st century with grace and style. A lot of us were excited that Stiers was willing to even listen to new ideas for improving the community. That was in fact a new development with politics in Jellico. I doubt the old, inbred families are willing to let too much change happen. Some of them own land in the flood plain. They like keeping business development limited to their own and agitate the uneducated to fight everything that challenges the status quo. For more information on the economic impact of trails: http://www.americantrails.org/resources/econo...
I'm just wondering how a Walking Trail will have an Economic Impact on our City.. You may have a hint of being an Inbred yourself...lol
buck private

Knoxville, TN

#14 Feb 6, 2012
our taxes don't need to go for golf greens and walking trails for tourist. hell we don't even have a motel that has a restaurant for tourist to enjoy a nice meal. there's so much more needs done for this town then golf. we enjoy walking trails already. where is the jobs he promised if we voted for him. where is a lot of things he promised. we have nothing but fights over annexation and whose going to be manager of the electric system. many people I talk to are talking like we have a defunct city that cant go into debt anymore than it already is. soon he will be calling the governor or the president to get some aid just to pay the workers. its sad when you think someone is going to really bring the town out of the slump its been in for years and he ends up being nothing but a bully and to make a name for his self.
golf greens if that ain't the biggest joke of the century here in this small hick town where maybe two have ever touched a golf club. lets get real people. send this guy packing his golf clubs and shoe laces back to the sandy beaches of alabama where he can really dream in his little hut where no one will be ever have to answer to him again.
good deal would you say.
waste of money

United States

#15 Feb 7, 2012
i couldnt agree with you more buck. the golf green would benefit daryl burge. see the mayor has to scratch the backs of those who are helping to scratch his. well you know daryl loves to play golf so there you have it. as far as the walking trails maybe he wants those put in so him and doris can walk hand in hand and say " see we could have done a lot more if we had of just listened to the people" lol. but remember he says it is all paid for with a grant. he says it is all free money but ask him who has to pay the money back yep you got it our town
your grand ideas

Griffin, GA

#16 Feb 7, 2012
lucy wrote:
<quoted text>I'm just wondering how a Walking Trail will have an Economic Impact on our City.. You may have a hint of being an Inbred yourself...lol
No doubt you have a bit of inbreeding issue being that you haven't figured out how to click on that last link which is all about the economic impact of trails Lucy.

If Buck thinks having a grocery store and restaurant are good ideas why doesn't he open one? It is the small business owners that start businesses and a town that add amenities, like trails and recreational facilities for citizens and tourists alike. The putting green idea actually was offered by the people that go and hit balls down there all the time. You think everyone likes getting big and fat? Wrong!! Some of us prefer an active lifestyle that doesn't always involve sitting behind a computer and running people and other ideas down without replacing them with any of their own. We are all ears to hear your ideas. A restaurant and grocery store have been offered for those entrepreneurs that wish to run with that idea. What other excellent planning suggestions do you have for us???
betwitched

Knoxville, TN

#17 Feb 7, 2012
your grand ideas wrote:
<quoted text>
No doubt you have a bit of inbreeding issue being that you haven't figured out how to click on that last link which is all about the economic impact of trails Lucy.
If Buck thinks having a grocery store and restaurant are good ideas why doesn't he open one? It is the small business owners that start businesses and a town that add amenities, like trails and recreational facilities for citizens and tourists alike. The putting green idea actually was offered by the people that go and hit balls down there all the time. You think everyone likes getting big and fat? Wrong!! Some of us prefer an active lifestyle that doesn't always involve sitting behind a computer and running people and other ideas down without replacing them with any of their own. We are all ears to hear your ideas. A restaurant and grocery store have been offered for those entrepreneurs that wish to run with that idea. What other excellent planning suggestions do you have for us???
the best idea I know at this time in city politics is for Les Stiers to pack his bags and hit the road back to bama and let the people of this town just putter without him and if he wants to take his lady friend with him, then that would be her choice.
big girl

Huntsville, TN

#18 Feb 7, 2012
betwitched wrote:
<quoted text>
the best idea I know at this time in city politics is for Les Stiers to pack his bags and hit the road back to bama and let the people of this town just putter without him and if he wants to take his lady friend with him, then that would be her choice.
Boy, you got that right, all Jellico has done is PUTTER and fall farther and farther in a hole, and we sure don't need to try to do better, and let no vistors or tourist spend any money in Jellico, even though most cities want tourist money, send it on to Williamsburg,Caryville or Jacksboro. Toursit and vistors come spend money, pay sales tax and go, let's not let that happen, if they come that will help create business and jobs, heaven forbid. Be sure and elect next time someone that wants nothing for Jellico
Inbred Genius

Knoxville, TN

#19 Feb 7, 2012
You know calling citizens inbred is a little over the top for our mayor and his mate. Then they wonder why poeple don't his their style of politics.
If you don't know the meaning of inbred read the statement below:
To mate closely related individuals: to mate closely related individuals of a species with each other, especially over many generations.
This is an insult to the Jellico community as a whole. I myself hate the word.
Using it to describe our society in this town will cause a lot of hostility. Please stop using that word in these postings.
to the Jellico genius

Griffin, GA

#20 Feb 7, 2012
Inbred Genius wrote:
You know calling citizens inbred is a little over the top for our mayor and his mate. Then they wonder why poeple don't his their style of politics.
If you don't know the meaning of inbred read the statement below:
To mate closely related individuals: to mate closely related individuals of a species with each other, especially over many generations.
This is an insult to the Jellico community as a whole. I myself hate the word.
Using it to describe our society in this town will cause a lot of hostility. Please stop using that word in these postings.
I see you self identify as being an "inbred genius" Well as the saying goes, "If the shoe fits". If you do not like it I suggest you choose a mate from a different breeding stock (i.e different gene pool). It is obvious you have chosen a correct moniker as you have been quick to make some false assumptions. Firstly, your superior knowledge precludes the citizen's of Jellico know what "inbred" means. Secondly,that you falsely assume that mayor Stiers and his wife don't have anything better to do than monitor and admonish "Jellico society" on TOPIX. Thirdly, to assume that Jellico Politics hasn't always been a hostile place where the closely related community have always scrapped like river rats, big fat and vicious. I am personally ashamed at the unwelcoming, small minded and bitterly jealous attitude of the fat Jellico rats toward people like the Stiers who are investing their time and resources making Jellico a better place. The reason your town is so backwards is because this inbreeding has affected all aspects of your "society". You need busloads of people brought in from Alabama, New York, all points west, and anywhere to dilute the meanness and pettiness you are known for here. Your pathetic schools are a disgrace to your children and the entire nation because of your institutional inbreeding. Look it up genius, it's a well known fact.

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