Claiming Macedonia

Claiming Macedonia

There are 719 comments on the www.macedoniahellenicland.eu story from Dec 6, 2009, titled Claiming Macedonia. In it, www.macedoniahellenicland.eu reports that:

When I was thirteen years old I asked my grandfather Constantine why he had joined the Greek andartes (freedom fighters) in 1904 and fought for four years in Macedonia against the armed Slavic bands (komitadjides, committee men) of the clandestine Bulgarian Komitet "Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization" (IMRO, Vatreshna Makedonska Revolutionna Organizadja).

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Informed Reader

Skopje, Macedonia

#752 May 8, 2010
United Macedonians wrote:
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What about AUstralia then? Is that propaganda? Why not? Have you seen the original Australia? Maybe the map of earth is really a big Greek conspiracy to confuse the skopjans so they do not realise they are ancient Macedonians. Have you seen the whole earth with your own eyes? I bet you have only seen maps of it. Maybe it is flat. Maybe it is square. If some skopjan propagandists say the earth is flat and academics in books claim it is round, it must be flat. Nobody can be certain the authors (academics) who wrote the books exist. The pictures of the earth could be all photoshoped.
This is the world you seem to live in.
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“On November 4, 2004, two days after the re-election of President George W. Bush, his administration unilaterally recognized the “Republic of Macedonia.” This action not only abrogated geographic and historic fact, but it also has unleashed a dangerous epidemic of HISTORICAL REVISIONISM, of which the most obvious symptom is the misappropriation by the government in Skopje of the most famous of Macedonians, Alexander the Great.”
Macedonia Evidence team (364 academics) letter to US President Barack Obama
http://macedonia-evidence.org/obama-letter.ht...
So, a mad rant and a link to a Greek propaganda site and a letter/on-line petition that I myself have signed, twice.

And you are convincing who exactly?
CANADEZOS

Toronto, Canada

#753 May 8, 2010
Informed Reader wrote:
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So, a mad rant and a link to a Greek propaganda site and a letter/on-line petition that I myself have signed, twice.
And you are convincing who exactly?
LYING SLAVOPICHKA=>THE MAJORITY OF THE WORLD HISTORIANS&ALL OF THE WORLDS LIBRARIES FULLY SUPPORT THE GREEKNESS OF THE ANCIENT MACEDONIANS!WITH THE EXCEPTION OF YOUR SLAVOSKOPIAN HANDFULL PSEUDOHISTORIANS!
Mr Kavorkian

Long Branch, NJ

#754 May 8, 2010
Scopia , Kosavo the revolution will start and soon after partition. look for your self http://www.topix.com/forum/world/macedonia/TP...
NIKOS

Athens, Greece

#755 May 9, 2010
In my mind,there is no Macedonian nation,no Macedonian language and certainly the Macedonian language can not be the Slavic dialect that is spoken in FYROM.
PHILIP THE MACEDON

Germany

#756 May 9, 2010
Skopian language is a tito's copy of the Serbian language.

Since: May 09

Los Angeles, CA

#757 May 10, 2010
The ill effects of The "Pan Slavism" campaign still simmering...yoiu disgraceful clowns of the Balkans, "Skops" need to get an education and get out of the 20th century...already.
Megas Alexandos

Glenmore Park, Australia

#758 May 11, 2010
Informed Reader wrote:
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The original letter, and not a link to the text on a propaganda site? In image form?
Your link?
You don't want to know, really. I bet you can find all the crap in your own little proganda gazzettes but when there is something real that shoots you down, yu run for the cover provided for you by ignorance, your eternal savior.
Look at the American senate resoloutions list and ye shall find. Its even better than you can imgine. lol
Informed Reader

Skopje, Macedonia

#759 May 12, 2010
Megas Alexandos wrote:
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You don't want to know, really. I bet you can find all the crap in your own little proganda gazzettes but when there is something real that shoots you down, yu run for the cover provided for you by ignorance, your eternal savior.
Look at the American senate resoloutions list and ye shall find. Its even better than you can imgine. lol
So, there is no letter then? It is a Greek myth? Just an on-line petition (which i've signed twice)?

Senete resolutions, and yet the US still recognises the Republic of Macedonia as that! Goes to show what Senete Resolutions are worth doesn't it.
United Macedonians

Tübingen, Germany

#761 Jul 15, 2010
Informed Reader wrote:
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So, there is no letter then? It is a Greek myth? Just an on-line petition (which i've signed twice)?
Senete resolutions, and yet the US still recognises the Republic of Macedonia as that! Goes to show what Senete Resolutions are worth doesn't it.
The letter is online. Please type Macedonia evidence and you can find it. It is not too dofficult.
Mithridates VI

Athens, Greece

#762 Jul 15, 2010
United Macedonians wrote:
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The letter is online. Please type Macedonia evidence and you can find it. It is not too dofficult.
Don't bother, they are banned from the 'enemy' internet addresses. For many time i was thinking they say on purpose 'i don't see it, page does not exist' but actually they have restricted access.
The big-brother is watching and censoring.
MKDejan

Skopje, Macedonia

#763 Jul 15, 2010
United Macedonians wrote:
"Claiming Macedonia" : The Struggle for the Heritage, Territory and Name of the Historic Hellenic Land, 1862-2004.
By : George C. Papavizas
Puplised by: McFarland & Company, Inc.,
Publishers Jefferson, North Carolina, and London
When I was thirteen years old I asked my grandfather Constantine why he had joined the Greek andartes (freedom fighters) in 1904 and fought for four years in Macedonia against the armed Slavic bands (komitadjides, committee men) of the clandestine Bulgarian Komitet "Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization" (IMRO, Vatreshna Makedonska Revolutionna Organizadja). Still under the Ottomans in the early 1900s, western Macedonia and Krimini, the small village with its four hundred Greek-speaking inhabitants where I was born, were in the forefront of the so-called Mace­donian Struggle (Makedonikos Agonas that lasted four years. Looking at me straight in the eyes for a long time in silence, twirling his long moustache, his sixty-year-old weather-beaten face furrowed in deep pain because of the distortion of historical facts on Macedonia emanating from the Slavic north, he said softly with tears in his eyes: "To make certain that after the Turks, our Macedonia remains Hellenic and my children and grandchildren enjoy freedom as Hellinomakedones" (Greek Macedonians).
Always with a permanent genteel expression evincing compassion and understanding, Kotas, as he was known among his friends and relatives, was a man of genuine affability and modest demeanor, underlined by a powerful mix of genuine Hellenic Macedonian values and an unusually strong commitment to family and the Greek Orthodox Church. Represent­ing an exclusive group of brave men with a tenacious belief in Macedon­ian Hellenism, Kotas, my hero grandfather, had no bigotry, hate, or chauvinism in his heart. What, then, motivated the prudent and peaceful man to become a guerrilla fighter for Macedonian Hellenism when even the official Greek government kept a cautious and ambivalent approach to the Macedonian problem and a safe distance from the Macedonian Strug­gle in the early years? Only an intense, innate passion for Macedonian Hel­lenism's fate and a distaste for history's distortion could incite him to leave his family for four years for the undeclared vicious guerrilla fight against the Turks and Bulgarians. He died of pneumonia at sixty, leaving behind an deep feeling of patriotism for all and an indelible, life-long Hellenic Macedonian legacy that has had a major impact on me, his first grandson.
VMRO fought against the Turks,not against christian and civil population,but yes the helenic army along with the foregin suporters did make Aegean Macedonia eventualy greek,after that violent assimilation,genocide and sending our people to exile,they manage to do that.Pirin Macedonia after the famous 1913 become Bulgarian and what was called than Vardar Macedonia was added to the Serbs.
So that guy who ever he is, was fighting to occupy not to set free,the Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization was doing the freeing part of Macedonia,for free and independent Macedonia
PHILIP THE MACEDON

Vienna, Austria

#764 Jul 15, 2010
MKDejan wrote:
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VMRO fought against the Turks,not against christian and civil population,but yes the helenic army along with the foregin suporters did make Aegean Macedonia eventualy greek,after that violent assimilation,genocide and sending our people to exile,they manage to do that.Pirin Macedonia after the famous 1913 become Bulgarian and what was called than Vardar Macedonia was added to the Serbs.
So that guy who ever he is, was fighting to occupy not to set free,the Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization was doing the freeing part of Macedonia,for free and independent Macedonia
Serbophon paranoid bulgarian!
Turkish Riviera is not Riviera and Titoistic yugoslav Macedonia is not Macedonia. Makedonija is the Greek name Macedonia in Serbocroatian. It is not Skopian name.
Dude

Sydney, Australia

#765 Jul 16, 2010
Isnt Skopje or Skupi a name at least 3000 years old?

It must be greek name then, it means bla bla bla in greek

“Macedonian, therefore Greek”

Since: Apr 07

Lychnidos, occupied Macedonia

#766 Jul 16, 2010
Dude wrote:
Isnt Skopje or Skupi a name at least 3000 years old?.........
It is Dardanian.
United Macedonians

Tübingen, Germany

#768 Jul 16, 2010
Dude wrote:
Isnt Skopje or Skupi a name at least 3000 years old?
It must be greek name then, it means bla bla bla in greek
It is not Greek and Skopians are not Macedonians.
Peter

North York, Canada

#769 Jul 16, 2010
My father was a Greek from Asia Minor.
My mother was a Macedonian from Greece who spoke a Slavic Dialect called Macedonian.

The people that live in FYROM are not the same peoples as the people that call themselves macedonians from Greece who speak a slavic dialect. We dont even look the same. The Macedonians from Greece have soft features where the so called Macedonians from FYROM have harder features.

The "Macedonian Diaspora" who call themselves MACEDONIAN only and that live in Canada and Australia know this. They will do everything possible to refute this and propagate as in Propaganda to prove otherwise.

Also, they are so fanatical and anti-greek that they call everything Macedonian....Macedonian Salad, Macedonia Hamburgers, Macedonian Toilet paper, Macedonian hand cream, Macedonian contact lenses. Macedonian Hawaian Pizza, Macedonian Macedamia Nuts. They are nuts !

3 more things -

The Ancient Macedonians were clearly a Greek Tribe as attested to by all the Professors at www.macedonia-evidence.org

The Greek Government of Metaxas did have an oppresive policy towards the Macedonians of Greece who are not the same people as FYROM or Alexander The Great (Ancient Macedonians)....This is the CRUX of the problem.

The So called "Macedonians" who claim renamed their province from Nothern Greece to Macedonia in 1988 is pure BS. I have Greek Magazines called
"Makedoniki Zoi" ie MACEDONIAN LIFE from from 1975.
The greeks renamed their ministry (NOT THE PROVINCE BOULADALDES or should I say Propagandists)from Northern Greece to Macedonia-Thrace.



“Macedonian, therefore Greek”

Since: Apr 07

Lychnidos, occupied Macedonia

#771 Jul 16, 2010
Whoever denies Macedonians' Greekness is idot or ignoramus or an imbecile SlavoSkopian propagandist
United Macedonians

Glauchau, Germany

#772 Jul 18, 2010
By League of Nations records, the majority of the population in Macedonia (in Greece not in outer space) in 1912-13 was Greek. Bulgarians were 12%. They were exchanged with the Greeks of Bulgaria.

The only assimilation that has happened has been in FYROM.
United Macedonians

Tübingen, Germany

#774 Sep 27, 2010
Why do the Fyromians hate the Macedonians? Why do they steal their name but hate them? It makes no sense.

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