Deputies remove protesters from Catho...

Deputies remove protesters from Catholic church slated to close

There are 11 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 31, 2008, titled Deputies remove protesters from Catholic church slated to close. In it, Newsday reports that:

Deputies had to remove a group of parishioners from a Roman Catholic church where they have been holding a vigil for the past seven months.

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WTDavis

Mount Laurel, NJ

#1 Jan 31, 2008
What is truly the shame here is the lack of effort on the part of parishioners to foster vocations to their diocese. The parishioners, as members of the Church, are responsible for vocations to the priesthood, not the diocese. What the diocese does is to educate candidates to the priesthood.
It's ironic that the parishioners are willing to make Church elsewhere (in another "church", by a priest who will be going against the will of his bishop, not a good thing), but not follow their Ordinary's instruction. In essence, they will have become Protest/ants. They are going to wait an awful long time for nothing. Canon Law is clear regarding the bishop's authority over his territory.
Our Church is changing based upon what parishioners want. Its simple; no vocations = church closures = mega-churches. This is the future if we don't foster vocations.
Nick

Riverview, FL

#2 Jan 31, 2008
While that may be true, no vocations, church closures, you can hardly expect these particular parishioners to garner all the vocations in the Diocese. Besides, you have to admire their persistence and love for St. Mary's. They sound like a solid faith community, a parish community - it kind of reminds me of the movie, The Bells of St. Mary's.

The Church may be changing, that's true, but I don't get the impression that this is a bunch of heterodox Catholics here. How many Catholics of today would fight for their parish like this? I'm going to pray for a miracle. Where's Ingrid Bergman when you need her?
Anna

Clayton, NC

#3 Jan 31, 2008
I am saddened by the fact that this church is closing, however, I am even more saddened by the fact that this women has stated that she is turning away from her faith. The Catholic faith has nothing to do with the particular walls in which the Mass is celebrated. Although we may love a building which has been a part of our spiritual life, we must realize that to hold our faith for ransom in order to prevent it's destruction, means that we have possibly leaned too much on the physical church and not enough on Our Lord.

“E Pluribus F&P!”

Since: Jan 08

Floral Park

#4 Jan 31, 2008
Sad and the lack of vocations is a problem. But in my neighborhood on LI, there are at least 8 Catholic Churches within a three mile radius. That made sense when they were opened due to transportation issues, but at some point consolidation would make sense. I of course say this knowing full well I would be devastated if my particular Church was closed as I am a funeral mass away from having had every possible sacrament (except Holy Orders) available to me administered in that Church.
WTDavis

Mount Laurel, NJ

#5 Jan 31, 2008
Like Anna, I too am saddened by those who chose to leave their faith because of something as minimal as a parish closing or scandal or what ever. I am reminded everyday when I go to mass that it is we the people who make up the Church, we are the Body of Christ; and it is that we are in communion with all Catholics, no matter what parish or church. It is for that matter that as Catholics, as members of His Body, we can come together in any parish and be who God wants us to be, His body on earth.
It is when one of us choses to leave that it hurts the whole of the Body of Christ. When this occurs, it is truly sad. I agree that as Church we should pray for those who leave, especially for those who are having their parishes combined with others.
Laura of Michigan

Lima, OH

#6 Feb 2, 2008
So what else is new regarding poor management of the heirarchy? It is so prevalent here in Michigan that we Catholics of the Wolverine State have been perplexed at the actions of the idiots that have been running our formerly Catholic Church. The only way to stop these bandits or better said, highway robbers and thugs, is to hit them where it hurts the most --- in the pocketbook. Since the folks holding the highest places in the Holy Roman Catholic Church did not reach their pedestals for their academic credentials. Something more hideous was most visible to those in the "know" and the least qualified were promoted to seats of power! The good people of Siracuse should recognize that they can live good lives and stay as children of God without the dumbells that run their church. The key word is money. In lieu of substantiating their CHD or any other big fund raiser, give to some charity that does good work or to a poor family in need that you are only familiar with through the news media. Onward & Upward!
petee

Peru

#7 Feb 7, 2008
We Catholics are so naive. Our church buildings and property have never even belonged to the very "people of God" who "paid" for them with our offerings. Rather, these "assets" are controlled by Bishop Moynihan and a hierarchy that's out of touch with reality. No doubt we'll come up short every time given the fact we're only pawns. It's time to wake up and smell the coffee! This isn't the way it's supposed to be and it's definitely not what Jesus had in mind when founding His church! I'm heading out the door to a nearby Bible-believing church. Bishop Moynihan - when you're done doing what you're doing, please turn off the lights.
Tony

United States

#8 Mar 7, 2008
It not what Bishop is doing, it is in the way he is doing it to our little church. He is not following canon law as he should. We are not leaving the catholic church. We are going to mass elsewhere and
reciving communion. What we want is the assets that the parishioners have built up over the last 100 years and keep our little church to have our special meetings and community gatherings. No he would rather tear it down. Out of sight out of mind is what Msgr Yeazel has said. Using the local sheriffs dept to remove us from our vigil was wrong. No civil law allows this since we are the owners of the property. Yet they did remove us under threat of being arrested. We are still good catholics still.
Victor

Miami, FL

#9 Mar 7, 2008
Tony wrote:
It not what Bishop is doing, it is in the way he is doing it to our little church. He is not following canon law as he should. We are not leaving the catholic church. We are going to mass elsewhere and
reciving communion. What we want is the assets that the parishioners have built up over the last 100 years and keep our little church to have our special meetings and community gatherings. No he would rather tear it down. Out of sight out of mind is what Msgr Yeazel has said. Using the local sheriffs dept to remove us from our vigil was wrong. No civil law allows this since we are the owners of the property. Yet they did remove us under threat of being arrested. We are still good catholics still.
It might behove all parishioners to find out what exactly they do and do not own. They may be in for a big surprise. What if you are the owned not the owner.
Tony

United States

#10 Mar 8, 2008
Victor wrote:
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It might behove all parishioners to find out what exactly they do and do not own. They may be in for a big surprise. What if you are the owned not the owner.
Our deed says we own. It is hard to get a lawyer who wants to take on the diosese to prove our point. They are going along as tho they own everything. They own nothing in our parish, it was all paid for by the parishioners.

“Wait til next year”

Since: Dec 06

Brooklyn NY USA

#11 Mar 8, 2008
Tony wrote:
<quoted text> Our deed says we own. It is hard to get a lawyer who wants to take on the diosese to prove our point. They are going along as tho they own everything. They own nothing in our parish, it was all paid for by the parishioners.
Laughable. If you had a leg to stand on, Tony, there would be a line of attorneys around the block just salivating at the opportunity to represent you.

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