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Cookeville, TN

#1 Feb 21, 2011
Does anyone know anything about what happened to the man developing it. Think his name was Detweiler.
went bankrupt

Ashley, MI

#2 Feb 21, 2011
Those people there are outta luck.
read this

Cookeville, TN

#3 Feb 21, 2011
This was found on internet!
J.J. Detweiler Goes On The Record: Don't Look At Me
8/19/2009
By: Robin Ford Wallace, Staff Reporter
Don’t blame Joe Detweiler.
“I had nothing to do with the economy, the turndown of the economy,” said Detweiler in a telephone interview Monday.“I had nothing to do with the markets going bad in New York and my major bank pulling my financing. That’s what caused my problems.”
But lately the problems of Joe (J.J.) Detweiler, the Ohio-based developer of Sequatchie Pointe, the stalled luxury housing development on Sand Mountain, have had a way of turning into other people’s problems – and a lot of those people do, in fact, blame him.
Notably, a group of lot buyers on the Tennessee side of the development, which straddles the state border between Marion and Dade counties, are blaming him via civil litigation – they filed a class-action lawsuit in a Marion County court last January, and since then Georgia-side buyers have flocked to join the suit.
In Fentress County, Tennessee, meanwhile, residents of Wilder Mountain Subdivision, a prior Detweiler project, are pressing their state attorney to bring criminal charges against the developer, according to Kristin Rosecrants, a vocal leader of the citizens group.
Ms. Rosecrants alleges, and deputy Fentress county trustee Becky Anderson confirmed last week, that in many cases, deeds for Wilder Mountain lots financed through the developer were never transferred to the new owners’ names. Purchasers were billed for 2007 real estate taxes and duly paid them to Detweiler, but the taxes were never turned over to the county trustee, making the lots vulnerable to seizure and sale by Fentress County.
Ms. Rosecrants and her husband, Tom, had bought several lots at Wilder Mountain, one paid for outright and three others financed.“We found in March of this year that the three lots … that the taxes weren’t paid and they were going to go to auction,” she said.
The couple – among the minority who live on and have built on their property – paid the taxes, then, after conferring with an attorney, were able to obtain a refund from the developer. Others, she said, were not so lucky.
“All of these lot owners that financed, it’s not registered in any of their names, and most of them – I’d say 99.9 percent of them – are out of state, just like Sequatchie Pointe. They’re Florida, you know, that’s their targeted market,” she said.
Since the title was never transferred, she said, there is no way of locating the distant owners whose lots are now subject to confiscation. She put the number of such lots at 70. Ms. Anderson in the tax office could not confirm a number.
Similar accusations have been made at Sequatchie Pointe and are among the grounds of the Marion County lawsuit.
“Well, I started my company 25, 30 years ago with 500 bucks, and I didn’t build this company by being a crook,” said Detweiler, asked for comment.
Asked about the specific allegations, Detweiler testily dismissed them as untrue –“It was late about 60 days one time, but the real estate taxes are all paid”– and anyway irrelevant:“We’re in Chapter 11 up here anyway.”
Detweiler declared Chapter 11 bankruptcy in federal court in Ohio on June 18.
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Cookeville, TN

#4 Feb 21, 2011
Another charge in the Marion lawsuit is that Detweiler failed to deliver promised roads and utilities, and now he acknowledges that he probably never will.“If we don’t have the banks that will fund us like they did when they started, why, there’s not much we can do about it,” he said.
Specifically, Detweiler blamed his downfall on Arbor One of Florence, S.C., his chief lender, which “pulled our funding just like that.”
“We’re still decent, honest people, but we can’t fulfill our obligation because the money stopped, and that’s the bottom story,” he said.
But in general he is also inclined to blame: the president.”We’re going to do everything we can to make sure we do what our obligation calls us to do, but I don’t run the economy. Mr. Obama does that,” he said.
On the Tennessee side of Sequatchie Pointe, said Detweiler, lot buyers are protected by performance bonds guaranteeing basic improvements which have now been called in by the Marion County government:“On the Georgia side, people might get hurt, because there’s no bond there,” he said.
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Cookeville, TN

#5 Feb 21, 2011
The Sentinel reminded Detweiler that a performance bond was a guarantee of improvements that were, essentially, the developer’s responsibility – a reminder that he met with seeming blank incomprehension.“I don’t have the wherewithal to finish the stuff on the Georgia side, because there’s no bond there,” he explained.
The Sentinel persisted: Did Detweiler bear any responsibility toward those Georgia-side buyers, who in many cases have been left without utilities or even roads to access their property. Detweiler replied,“I have none if I go bankrupt.”
Which he has.
Perhaps, said Detweiler, another developer will finish what he started, and the Georgia buyers will eventually be able to build.“There’s enough lots there in that Georgia side that I’m hoping that whoever buys the rest of the inventory at Sequatchie Pointe will put those roads and water in there because of the lots they can still sell and make good money on it,” he said.
But that may or may not happen, said Detweiler.“I cannot promise them any relief,” he said.“I’m not in the driver’s seat.”
Who is remains unclear, but the occupant of the hot seat is not that hard to find. Project manager Dan Graber, previously interviewed for Sentinel articles, remains the sole Detweiler employee on site at Sequatchie Pointe, and his is the face in the lot owners’ cross-hairs, he says.“They shouldn’t be fired up and wanting to shoot me or kill me,” he said.“I’m on their side if it would come down to that. I do not want to see anyone get hurt.”
But not all buyers are disgruntled, said Graber. Some are actually building houses. Though facing a stop-work order from the Environmental Protection Division (EPD) in Georgia and hefty fines on the other side of the border from TDEC, the Tennessee Department of Environment and Conservation, Sequatchie Pointe is still seeing new construction, albeit all on the Tennessee side.“They have electric, they have phones now, they have roads coming in from the Dade County side,” said Graber.
The Sentinel asked Graber about complaints from the Wilder Mountain Subdivision in Fentress County regarding road maintenance. Kirstin Rosecrants, quoted above, said owners paid $200 annually to Detweiler to maintain their roads as per their agreement with the developer.“Let me tell you, our roads are not maintained,” she said.“We’ve never seen anything for our money,” she said.
She and other Wilder Mountain residents have crowded into Fentress County Commission meetings, she said, petitioning for the county to take over their roads, but Thomas Coleman Jr., Fentress’s county attorney, says that won’t happen until the roads are brought up to county grade. Both he and Ms. Rosecrants expect that the residents will end up having to pay for this themselves.
“At this point, it’s obvious that whatever they do, they’re going to try to dump on somebody,” said Coleman of the developer,“and if it’s on the landowners, I wouldn’t be a bit surprised, either.”
Graber said the roads are well-maintained and that he inspects them personally.
Like Dade, Fentress County did not have a performance bond requirement in place when Detweiler began to develop Wilder Mountain. An effort to impose regulations on the several developers who had moved into the county was shouted down and voted out when public feeling was invoked against zoning restrictions, said Coleman.
Sexy stuff

Cookeville, TN

#6 Feb 21, 2011
Real good place to screw.
not paying

Cookeville, TN

#7 Feb 24, 2011
Is this the same Ms. Rosecrants who is so opposed to the new justice center? She wants our cash strapped county to pay for her road maintenance?
Ashley

Cookeville, TN

#8 Feb 24, 2011
not paying wrote:
Is this the same Ms. Rosecrants who is so opposed to the new justice center? She wants our cash strapped county to pay for her road maintenance?
Yes it is, I thought the exact same thing! She also was okay in another thread with paying the 5 dollar meter fee. Makes you wonder why she is really up there?
Informed

Greenwood, SC

#9 Feb 24, 2011
She is opposed to the meter fee and asked the commission to not vote on it. Where do you get your information, the county commissioners?
INFORMED

Rickman, TN

#10 Feb 25, 2011
Yup, I are one!
Wilderwoman

Cookeville, TN

#11 Mar 8, 2011
Anyone know what happened to all the people that worked there? Are they still selling land? I heard they were still trying to collect road maintenance fees.
revelation

Saluda, SC

#12 Mar 8, 2011
There seems to be information surfacing about what mightbe the motive behind KR's agenda. After reading this, I thought, she wants her road fixed, county commissioners and county lawyer said bring the road up to specs and we will, so she runs for county commissioner.She lost. Now she is trying to disband our form of government. She came here from another place, and dealt with someone who may not have been honest and -------??? I will not say what I think, I do not want to influence anyone or say anything improper.
Wilderwoman

Cookeville, TN

#13 Mar 8, 2011
revelation wrote:
There seems to be information surfacing about what mightbe the motive behind KR's agenda. After reading this, I thought, she wants her road fixed, county commissioners and county lawyer said bring the road up to specs and we will, so she runs for county commissioner.She lost. Now she is trying to disband our form of government. She came here from another place, and dealt with someone who may not have been honest and -------??? I will not say what I think, I do not want to influence anyone or say anything improper.
I hardly think that anyone who bought property in this development knew that the developer was dishonest. Up until the last year or so, there was no negative information about the developer. I don't think that KR's agenda for running for county commissioner was to get her road fixed. The developer was already bankrupt when she ran. Everyone knows that a bank has taken the development over and they will be responsible for fulfilling all the unkept promises that the developer made. Just because she is not from around here means nothing. I have heard that she is calling out some people on the way landtaxes were raised with no public meeting, and for that I say more power to her.
TellTheTruth

Columbia, SC

#14 Mar 8, 2011
Wilderwoman wrote:
<quoted text> I have heard that she is calling out some people on the way landtaxes were raised with no public meeting, and for that I say more power to her.
You heard wrong - there WAS a public meeting. Taxes were raised immediately after that meeting.
Wilderwoman

Cookeville, TN

#15 Mar 8, 2011
So are the people of Fentress happy with paying one of the highest tax rates in the area? The taxes are even higher than Overton County. Don't see why one of the poorest counties in the state has one of the highest tax rates.

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#16 Mar 8, 2011
I am not sure about one of the highest, The news says even with the 49% raise we are still one of the lowest paying property tax paying county! They coudl be wrong but this is what they said when they interviewed David Beaty.

Since: Jun 08

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#17 Mar 8, 2011
TellTheTruth wrote:
<quoted text>You heard wrong - there WAS a public meeting. Taxes were raised immediately after that meeting.
You are correct..There were even some town hall meetings.
Wilderwoman

Cookeville, TN

#18 Mar 8, 2011
Fentress County Girl wrote:
I am not sure about one of the highest, The news says even with the 49% raise we are still one of the lowest paying property tax paying county! They coudl be wrong but this is what they said when they interviewed David Beaty.
Overton county's tax rate is 0.20 cheaper than Fentress County and Putnam county is the same. This makes a lot of differece especially when you are paying taxes on land with a house versus vacant land. I own property in Fentress county and one lot I own that has a house on it the taxes went up $200.
Wilderwoman

Cookeville, TN

#19 Mar 8, 2011
Green Hornet 007 wrote:
<quoted text>
You are correct..There were even some town hall meetings.
I didn't know anything about it and don't know anyone that knew about it. Was it advertised in the paper or on the radio? I know people in Fentress county that own a lot of land and they knew nothing about it. If there were public meetings the public was not adequatley informed about them.

Since: Jun 08

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#20 Mar 8, 2011
Wilderwoman wrote:
<quoted text>I didn't know anything about it and don't know anyone that knew about it. Was it advertised in the paper or on the radio? I know people in Fentress county that own a lot of land and they knew nothing about it. If there were public meetings the public was not adequatley informed about them.
It was advertised.I believe in both newspaper and radio..I went to one of them.

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