Texas Petitions To Succeed From The Union

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Nov 13, 2012
 
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Well Roudy, I always enjoy your input. All you have to do is look at the Country of Iceland. They realized early on that it is Private Bankster debt and not the Peoples debt causing the economic problems. Of course we have more to deal with considering obamas ideology and intended machinations but our long term is bright considering our Unalienable Rights.
By the way, I do hate the way that the Topix machine always edits my posts with weird spacing, spelling, and adjustments that are not intended. Just sayin', I do better than their auto editing.
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Nov 13, 2012
 
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Well Roudy, I always enjoy your input. All you have to do is look at the Country of Iceland. They realized early on that it is Private Bankster debt and not the Peoples debt causing the economic problems. Of course we have more to deal with considering obamas ideology and intended machinations but our long term is bright considering our Unalienable Rights.
A lot of this debt ws run up for things that the people did not want or agree too. One is the foreign military aid anotehr is involvement in foreign wars that most people never knew about or if they did they did not want or see the need to fight.The other is we are subdizing a lot of things that nothing more than tax write offs for some interest groups.It goes on and on and if was stopped most of us would never miss whatever it was spent on.why do we need to subdize dairy farmers to produce butter when the butter is thrown out, same with cheeze? Just an example. Yes the Banksters are ripping us off big time.In any case I see the deficit and national debt being the issue that will bring the nation down if it is not dealt with soon.

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Nov 13, 2012
 
Roudy wrote:
<quoted text>A lot of this debt ws run up for things that the people did not want or agree too. One is the foreign military aid anotehr is involvement in foreign wars that most people never knew about or if they did they did not want or see the need to fight.The other is we are subdizing a lot of things that nothing more than tax write offs for some interest groups.It goes on and on and if was stopped most of us would never miss whatever it was spent on.why do we need to subdize dairy farmers to produce butter when the butter is thrown out, same with cheeze? Just an example. Yes the Banksters are ripping us off big time.In any case I see the deficit and national debt being the issue that will bring the nation down if it is not dealt with soon.
Oh I agree, debt will be our great downfall. However, the sooner the People understand that most of our so called debt is owed unjustly to the privately owned mafioso cabal that we know as the Federal Reserve, the better and the sooner we can unshackle ourselves to then live in the prosperity our Founding Generation knew in the Colonial days.
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#24
Nov 13, 2012
 
Texas got one response this evening. A "round about" one anyway.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/pea...
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Nov 14, 2012
 
White House ‘secede’ petitions reach 675,000 signatures, 50-state participation

2:01 AM 11/14/2012
David Martosko
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http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/14/white-house...
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#27
Nov 14, 2012
 
This is the latest from Texas on Texas secession. It looks like Texas cannot legal secede, but it can break into five separate states which would give it 10 senators.

http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2012/11/texas...
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Nov 14, 2012
 
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i wonder what the correlation is between states with secession petitions and states with overwhelmingly white populations who overwhelmingly voted against obama.
it's not a conspiracy theory. it's just closeted racism :(
ok sounds like you poetaster voted for obummer
It's not racism why does everyone play that card. USA land of free home of brave.

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<quoted text>ok sounds like you poetaster voted for obummer
It's not racism why does everyone play that card. USA land of free home of brave.
there were many valid reasons to not vote for obama, most of which have been expounded upon by the users in this forum.

but obama has done nothing to cause these states to want to secede. hell, he's more moderate than clinton was! so there has to be something else driving people to put up these petitions.
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poetaster wrote:
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there were many valid reasons to not vote for obama, most of which have been expounded upon by the users in this forum.
but obama has done nothing to cause these states to want to secede. hell, he's more moderate than clinton was! so there has to be something else driving people to put up these petitions.
You say that there are, "many valid" reasons and then say, "obama has done nothing" to cause this. Then you say "there has to be something else". I guess the "many valid reasons" slips right past you because you are looking for something that is not there. I wouldn't care if obama was blue or green, he is still the most dangerous president to ever sit in power over the American people. He is a liar and a fraud and should be in prison but thats just my opinion.

Why do you think gun sales are at record levels? This is serious business and you try to make it look as if its only motivated by racism.

Call me racist if you must but you would be in complete denial of the facts by doing so.

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poetaster wrote:
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there were many valid reasons to not vote for obama, most of which have been expounded upon by the users in this forum.
but obama has done nothing to cause these states to want to secede. hell, he's more moderate than clinton was! so there has to be something else driving people to put up these petitions.
Obamacare is just one great reason..Next one is that he is willing to sign a UN resolution that will give the UN control of our 2nd Amendment rights..Third is his wanting to grant illegal aliens citizenship first before securing our borders..The list can get quite long..

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You say that there are, "many valid" reasons and then say, "obama has done nothing" to cause this. Then you say "there has to be something else". I guess the "many valid reasons" slips right past you because you are looking for something that is not there. I wouldn't care if obama was blue or green, he is still the most dangerous president to ever sit in power over the American people. He is a liar and a fraud and should be in prison but thats just my opinion.
Why do you think gun sales are at record levels? This is serious business and you try to make it look as if its only motivated by racism.
Call me racist if you must but you would be in complete denial of the facts by doing so.
valid reasons to vote against him. NOT valid reasons to secede from the united states because of him.

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Nov 14, 2012
 
and, by the way, i'm not calling anybody on here a racist. if that's what you're reading out of what i'm saying...perhaps thou doth protest too much?
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valid reasons to vote against him. NOT valid reasons to secede from the united states because of him.
My "valid reasons" for voting against him are the same "valid reasons" I signed the petition to secede and I know that will probably never happen. How else can one complain in such a way that it demands an answer from those in charge? People want their voice to be heard and so far nothing else is working, in fact its just the opposite. We are being oppressed and burdened by massive debt and all the while we are told to deal with it and stfu. I will not stfu.
poetaster wrote:
and, by the way, i'm not calling anybody on here a racist. if that's what you're reading out of what i'm saying...perhaps thou doth protest too much?
I guess I read your below quote wrong then, sorry.
poetaster wrote:
i wonder what the correlation is between states with secession petitions and states with overwhelmingly white populations who overwhelmingly voted against obama.
it's not a conspiracy theory. it's just closeted racism :(

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Nov 14, 2012
 
i can see where you could take that from my statement. i wasn't implying that white people who voted against obama were racist, but it seems like that's what i meant.

as far as secession...it would take an extreme act from the government to warrant such an action. i'm talking union-breaking actions. and you can disagree with what obama has done all you want. but there's obviously a majority of people in america who don't disagree enough not to vote for him, and that's how democracy (or more specifically, a republic) works. you vote for the person you want to represent you, and if they don't win, then you wait until the next election and try again. the only way this cycle doesn't work is if the person in office tries to change the rules of the system to an extent that it takes away the basic fundamental right to vote against them in the next cyle.
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i can see where you could take that from my statement. i wasn't implying that white people who voted against obama were racist, but it seems like that's what i meant.
as far as secession...it would take an extreme act from the government to warrant such an action. i'm talking union-breaking actions. and you can disagree with what obama has done all you want. but there's obviously a majority of people in america who don't disagree enough not to vote for him, and that's how democracy (or more specifically, a republic) works. you vote for the person you want to represent you, and if they don't win, then you wait until the next election and try again. the only way this cycle doesn't work is if the person in office tries to change the rules of the system to an extent that it takes away the basic fundamental right to vote against them in the next cyle.
Yep, it seems like what you meant but if you say you didn't, then we will have to leave it at that.

I know how a democracy works but what we have in America is getting farther from that every day. You claim that the people have spoken by casting their vote and on the surface, you are right. In light of the voter fraud accusations across the country, I am am a little skeptical to say the least.

I know what is at stake here and this election was for all the marbles so to speak. There is no way IMO that Obama won this election fairly. Call me whatever you like for my opinions because that doesn't bother me at all. As an American citizen, I have a right to the truth and boy you won't get much of that from politics on either side of the fence. I am not stupid and what I have seen take place is a travesty to the American way.

"One out of five Ohio voters is bogus." Some counties in Ohio had 140% voter turnout, many counties voted 100% for Obama.
http://www.humanevents.com/2012/09/17/vote-fr...

"Some Colorado counties have more registered voters than people."
http://www.redstate.com/2012/09/04/colorado-c...

"Some voters were told that they already voted, some bragged on twitter of voting multiple times."
http://www.examiner.com/article/fraud-some-to...

"Crooked politics; Obama lost in every state with photo ID laws."
http://www.examiner.com/article/fraud-some-to...

"Did voter fraud sway the vote?"
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/did-voter-fraud-sw...

Philly polling stations where GOP inspectors were kicked out had 90% voter turnout, 99% voted for Obama. There was a muriel of Obama on the wall and workers had attire sporting Obama.
http://weaselzippers.us/2012/11/08/philly-pol...

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when bush won in 2000, losing the popular vote and barely winning the electoral vote by winning florida, and only then by a few questionable calls with lots of valid votes being thrown out and not counted...i felt very strongly that he did not win the election fairly.

but when he won in 2004 decisively, winning the popular vote and a wide margin of the electoral vote...i never questioned its legitimacy. i was disappointed, sure, but i never called into question the results.

this situation we have here with the 2012 election is not a 2000-type situation, where it came down to the wire and was hinging on only a few votes. this was very much a 2004-type situation. not even close.

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Nov 14, 2012
 
How to Secede and Prosper

"We the people" have our marching orders, the only question is, do we still have the backbone and grit of the Founders

- Jim ONeill (Bio and Archives) Wednesday, November 14, 2012

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/arti...
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What a boat load of uneducated Idiots. At the end of the day its about Race.

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Nov 14, 2012
 
IF THE SOUTH WOULDA WON

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