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Texas Petitions To Succeed From The Union

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Roudy

Yuba City, CA

#1 Nov 12, 2012
Texas has petitioned the White House to succeed from the union along with Tennessee and 19 other states.Is the the beginning of a lot of big trouble?

http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2012/11/the-p...

Since: Sep 09

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#2 Nov 12, 2012
Here is how it plays out for those who have been paying close attention to the foreshadowing and psyop games that have been played on the American people and the world for the last several years:

Obama is portrayed as the great leader (even with all evidence to the contrary) for five years now. He has been undeservedly meritoriously awarded and is constantly and continually compared to a messianic Abraham Lincoln in the media and by his political party.

Now, this coming weekend the Speilberg blockbuster "Lincoln" will debut as a final soaking in preconditioning element to what lies ahead for America just as the blockbuster movie "Pearl Harbor" did for the 9/11 attacks.

So, by mid Mach expect Civil War II, if "they" continue with "their" playbook for the American downfall.

By the way Roudy, did you see the psyop on the post election cover of Newsweek and read the caption above the image?

Here it is...

http://www.examiner.com/slideshow/newsweek-pr...

Since: Sep 09

Location hidden

#3 Nov 12, 2012
The "Lincoln" movie by Speilberg...

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/jamestown-tn/...
Roudy

Yuba City, CA

#4 Nov 12, 2012
dollop wrote:
The "Lincoln" movie by Speilberg...
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/jamestown-tn/...
I saw some of that earlier. What I found interesting today, when I took my truck over to get something done it. The guy whose shop I take it to is usually very busy, phone ringing off the hook, people lined up to get work done. Only people ther tis morning were two guys looking for a job. Just him and his son today. He said business has been awful, he had to let some people go and Thursday may have to let four more go. Today was a Federal Holiday but usually on this kind of day he is very busy. Not today. He said all the business in town were the same and they were all laying off. He said his health insurance on his employees jumped 5K a month because of the Obama care mandate. He is not a happy camper.He said lot of business are in the same boat and will lay off because the economy is so bad. We just had three business close their door for good.

I doubt that we will see an actual succession of states from the union, but I believe big trouble is brewing. The liberals are convinced that the 48% they plan to rob are going to lay down and take it. I am not so sure it will go the way the think it will.People I have talked to here in town are very upset about a number of things and a lot of business owners say they are moving to Texas or Oklahoma.I can believe it because the new legislature we got wants to increase taxes on business. People will have to move someplace, there will be no jobs and no way to make a living. So if that happens Obama will have to take money from the other 49 states to feed the welfare crowd we leave behind.

Since: Sep 09

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#5 Nov 12, 2012
Nullification - Quick & Effective

Big victories under the radar Tuesday night

Thursday, November 08, 2012
by: Jon Rappoport

It's called Nullification. If the central government passes a law that exceeds its ceiling of power as described in the Constitution, the individual states have a right to refuse to obey it.

Wyoming, Montana, and Alabama did just that. They passed ballot measures essentially stating that the federal government can't force their citizens to purchase mandated health insurance (Obamacare).

Colorado and Washington passed measures decriminalizing marijuana, and Massachusetts passed a referendum legalizing medical marijuana.

Pot is still against federal law.

A trend is slowly building. States are deciding to slough off federal control.

Political forces that abhor nullification make a bogus historical argument: states rights were once used to prolong slavery and then, later, segregation. Yes, but this is now. No state intends to bring back segregation.

The nullification movement is now about decentralization of power.

In various states, it grows along different issues and moves along different fault lines.

Further, we shouldn't assume these ballot measures are simply weak expressions of opinion that will be crushed by the federal government. Pressure from the feds, for example, to shut down medical marijuana dispensaries in Los Angeles has failed to bring about the desired result.

What will the feds do in Montana, Wyoming, and Montana when they decide it's time to enforce Obamacare on these rebels? Will they stage a massive show of force? That would play, in the international press, about as well as Ruby Ridge or Waco.

Will they fine a few select citizens of those states for failing to enroll in Obamacare? If so, and the citizens refuse to pay up, what then? How will an escalation be managed, and with what consequences? Does Obama really want a showdown that could awaken a sleeping giant he successfully put to bed Tuesday night?

Overplaying that hand could be disastrous.

At the birth of the Republic, it was well understood that nullification by the individual states was a viable option. It was an ace in the hole. It was a major reason the states ceded certain powers to the new central government in the first place.

It's still a live option.

Jefferson wrote in the 1798 Kentucky Resolution, "When powers are assumed which have not been delegated, a nullification of the act is the rightful remedy."

Today's scholars prefer to argue that the only limiter on federal power is the US Supreme Court. This is about as useful as putting monkeys at typewriters and hoping to get Shakespeare. Supreme Court justices are in love with the idea of "updating" the Constitution to suit their personal whims.

State legislatures originally ratified the Constitution. That was how the central government was created. The states can now dismantle, piece by piece, the undelegated powers of that government, to bring it back toward the intent of the Founders.

Of course, most people in America today don't have a clue about any of these issues. That's because the education system is devoted to teaching how to step on an aluminum can before dropping it in a plastic barrel.

But it's never too late to learn.
continued..........

http://www.naturalnews.com/037893_elections_v...
obama

Norway, SC

#6 Nov 12, 2012
if you dont like it here you could move to canada or mexico!!!!! the republicans are taking this loss hard as any i have ever seen.CRYBABIES!!!!!!!!!!
Still learning

Clover, SC

#7 Nov 13, 2012
dollop wrote:
Nullification - Quick & Effective
Big victories under the radar Tuesday night
Thursday, November 08, 2012 in America today don't have a clue about any. That's because the education system is devoted to teaching how to step on an aluminum can before dropping it in a plastic barrel.
But it's never too late to learn.
continued..........
http://www.naturalnews.com/037893_elections_v...
Thank you for the info! I am planning to get more involved and have been such a slacker! So many have their eyes closed to the things happening even in our own little county. A big example of this is legislation to stop urban sprawl,!! Even the 3 star program (which includes contingency on counties following chapter no 1101/ Senate Bill no. 3278 showing the limitation on urban sprawl by showing urban growth boundaries and forcing plans for high density commercial and residential developments) is designed to limit our rights and these things are disguised as ways to help our community through grants and low interest bonds but the price is higher than people realize as we give away our rights one at a time! People think the ramifications are a long way into the future but it is now! The new year is going to be a mess!

Since: Sep 09

Location hidden

#8 Nov 13, 2012
Still learning wrote:
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Thank you for the info! I am planning to get more involved and have been such a slacker! So many have their eyes closed to the things happening even in our own little county. A big example of this is legislation to stop urban sprawl,!! Even the 3 star program (which includes contingency on counties following chapter no 1101/ Senate Bill no. 3278 showing the limitation on urban sprawl by showing urban growth boundaries and forcing plans for high density commercial and residential developments) is designed to limit our rights and these things are disguised as ways to help our community through grants and low interest bonds but the price is higher than people realize as we give away our rights one at a time! People think the ramifications are a long way into the future but it is now! The new year is going to be a mess!
If you do live in Charlotte as implied by your topix location you need to first be aware that it is one of the few Bankster paradises and your efforts for Liberty there will be met with extreme monied resistance.

However, below are two links to help you along the way with your Agenda 21 problem.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/jamestown-tn/...

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/jamestown-tn/...
Still learning

Clover, SC

#9 Nov 13, 2012
No. For some reason the mobile Site does that., I am local :)

“'ello”

Since: Nov 09

burkettsville

#10 Nov 13, 2012
oh, dollop...

if there's a civil war 2 next year, i'll give you $5.

“'ello”

Since: Nov 09

burkettsville

#11 Nov 13, 2012
i wonder what the correlation is between states with secession petitions and states with overwhelmingly white populations who overwhelmingly voted against obama.

it's not a conspiracy theory. it's just closeted racism :(

Since: Sep 09

Location hidden

#12 Nov 13, 2012
poetaster wrote:
oh, dollop...
if there's a civil war 2 next year, i'll give you $5.
I hope you are right and I am wrong. No sane person would want to go through the privations, death, disease, famine, and loss that is inherent in all civil wars.

However, for the most part we do not have a sane Federal Government and I believe some want this very much.

Going by the foreshadowing and psyop preconditioning, some of which is listed in my post above, foisted on the People and the pre-positioning of men and material across the Country a great deal of evidence supports my theory.

If it happens it will get started just like in the fashion seen from Rhodesia to what is going on in Syria right now. Foreign mercs will be used initially to stir the pot and get things frothing, they will be called by the government and media freedom fighters and so on.

By the way, we wont be left out here in peaceful Fentress County. Have you seen the crew that the government has moved in here on us? I know two people who have had unpleasant encounters with them already.

Since: Sep 09

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#13 Nov 13, 2012
poetaster wrote:
i wonder what the correlation is between states with secession petitions and states with overwhelmingly white populations who overwhelmingly voted against obama.
it's not a conspiracy theory. it's just closeted racism :(
The number of States with petitions is now 34.

All States have an "overwhelmingly white populations", but your theory doesn't hold water anyway. Here is a link to the map I saw yesterday. Notice the northeast.

And I know, you really, really, really, really, really, really, really want this to be about obamas "race" but it is not. It is about his marxist-muslim ideology, your beliefs, and his continued attacks on our Republic.

obamas "race".... Which part is it that everyone is supposed to hate? LOL!
50% White Jewish
40% Arabic
10% or less Black African

“'ello”

Since: Nov 09

burkettsville

#14 Nov 13, 2012
oh, there's plenty of hate for all three of those :)

Since: Sep 09

Location hidden

#15 Nov 13, 2012
dollop wrote:
<quoted text>
The number of States with petitions is now 34.
All States have an "overwhelmingly white populations", but your theory doesn't hold water anyway. Here is a link to the map I saw yesterday. Notice the northeast.
And I know, you really, really, really, really, really, really, really want this to be about obamas "race" but it is not. It is about his marxist-muslim ideology, your beliefs, and his continued attacks on our Republic.
obamas "race".... Which part is it that everyone is supposed to hate? LOL!
50% White Jewish
40% Arabic
10% or less Black African
My bad. Here is the link I mentioned.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-22320...

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#16 Nov 13, 2012
poetaster wrote:
oh, there's plenty of hate for all three of those :)
Not here.
Roudy

Yuba City, CA

#17 Nov 13, 2012
I am probably in disagreement with most of the people on this site on this subject. However, I will state what I think about the issue.

I do not think race will drive a secession, if it was going to it already would have happened. To secede would require a vote by the states and it will take more than race to drive that to happen.Oregon is one of the states that is petitioning to secede and it voted for Obama.

I believe if any issue brings a breakup it will be the national debt and the obligations that the federal government has picked up. The big deficit, Social Security, Medicare, now the Affordable Health Care Act. If states left theunion and formed another nation, those debts and obligations would be be left to the remaining states in the Union. They would not be obligated to pay eiter the benifits or the national deficit.This would bring mostly the younger generation on board and cit across racial line, since it would be a new country starting over.

The people who are on Social Security,medicare other entitlements would likely move to the Old US. This would rid the the new nation of the debt. Young people might migrate from the US to the new nation. It would likely have a new constution and a different approach to the current problems.Better or worse, guess it would depend on where you fit into the picture.

The one issue that effect everybody is the debt and the cost of the social programs.That is what I hear young people talk about they do not want to be burdened by this debt and the only way out is either leave the country or form a new country and leave the debt.
The old country could not a lot ot prevent it because,it would be populated mostly by old people and old people are not up to fighting wars therfore the they could not prevent it. When they died off the remaing US would likely be annexed by the new country. All this would likely cause a breakup of the current world order and the world would see number of big wars.

Read Governor Perry`s statement he is making on secession, it addresses the Federal Government`s inability to balance the budget and control the debt I thought about this angle for a bit and I am just a dumb hillbill with a shade tree education ,if I can think of that then the politicians who are pushing this petition have already thought of it.

I know this seems a little far fetched but think on it, the one issue that the Federal Government cannot seem to resolve and it is an issue that is on a lot of young people`s minds.

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#18 Nov 13, 2012
Roudy wrote:
I am probably in disagreement with most of the people on this site on this subject. However, I will state what I think about the issue.
I do not think race will drive a secession, if it was going to it already would have happened. To secede would require a vote by the states and it will take more than race to drive that to happen.Oregon is one of the states that is petitioning to secede and it voted for Obama.
I believe if any issue brings a breakup it will be the national debt and the obligations that the federal government has picked up. The big deficit, Social Security, Medicare, now the Affordable Health Care Act. If states left theunion and formed another nation, those debts and obligations would be be left to the remaining states in the Union. They would not be obligated to pay eiter the benifits or the national deficit.This would bring mostly the younger generation on board and cit across racial line, since it would be a new country starting over.
The people who are on Social Security,medicare other entitlements would likely move to the Old US. This would rid the the new nation of the debt. Young people might migrate from the US to the new nation. It would likely have a new constution and a different approach to the current problems.Better or worse, guess it would depend on where you fit into the picture.
The one issue that effect everybody is the debt and the cost of the social programs.That is what I hear young people talk about they do not want to be burdened by this debt and the only way out is either leave the country or form a new country and leave the debt.
The old country could not a lot ot prevent it because,it would be populated mostly by old people and old people are not up to fighting wars therfore the they could not prevent it. When they died off the remaing US would likely be annexed by the new country. All this would likely cause a breakup of the current world order and the world would see number of big wars.
Read Governor Perry`s statement he is making on secession, it addresses the Federal Government`s inability to balance the budget and control the debt I thought about this angle for a bit and I am just a dumb hillbill with a shade tree education ,if I can think of that then the politicians who are pushing this petition have already thought of it.
I know this seems a little far fetched but think on it, the one issue that the Federal Government cannot seem to resolve and it is an issue that is on a lot of young people`s minds.
I basically agree with you..I really think it could happen if the US allows the UN to govern our 2nd amendment rights.
Roudy

Yuba City, CA

#19 Nov 13, 2012
Green Hornet 007 wrote:
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I basically agree with you..I really think it could happen if the US allows the UN to govern our 2nd amendment rights.
That too is an issue. I think from what I hear form the younger generation is that they did not cause this debt, it was run up before they were born and spent on thing that they do see how they have preaped any benift from and yet they will be stuck with it.I do not like the idea of this happening but I feel it just may if the debt issue does not get resolved. I believe the congress will pass some kind of cobbled up stop gap measure to prevent the big disaster that we face the firs tof the year, but they are not going to solve the long term problem. mainly because they can`t. The debt is too big and the deficit is required to pay the current expenses and obligations. To resove it radical measure will have to be taken and I don`t believe the current batch we have in DC will do it.

I am willing to make the necessary sacrifices that need to be made but only if eeveryone else is on board. No exceptions except those that are physicaly unable too. We may have to got to some volunteer work,in some cases. If something is not done that resolves it I do see the senario I mentioned happening.

Since: Sep 09

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#20 Nov 13, 2012
Roudy wrote:
<quoted text>That too is an issue. I think from what I hear form the younger generation is that they did not cause this debt, it was run up before they were born and spent on thing that they do see how they have preaped any benift from and yet they will be stuck with it.I do not like the idea of this happening but I feel it just may if the debt issue does not get resolved. I believe the congress will pass some kind of cobbled up stop gap measure to prevent the big disaster that we face the firs tof the year, but they are not going to solve the long term problem. mainly because they can`t. The debt is too big and the deficit is required to pay the current expenses and obligations. To resove it radical measure will have to be taken and I don`t believe the current batch we have in DC will do it.
I am willing to make the necessary sacrifices that need to be made but only if eeveryone else is on board. No exceptions except those that are physicaly unable too. We may have to got to some volunteer work,in some cases. If something is not done that resolves it I do see the senario I mentioned happening.
Well Roudy, I always enjoy your input. All you have to do is look at the Country of Iceland. They realized early on that it is Private Bankster debt and not the Peoples debt causing the economic problems. Of course we have more to deal with considering obamas ideology and intended machinations but our long term is bright considering our Unalienable Rights.

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