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confused

Lenoir City, TN

#1 Nov 18, 2012
Should people ever consider suicide? If you know you're gay and living in a househould where you will never be accepted and you've exhausted all resources while trying vehemently to change, should you just kill yourself? Certainly, the "acceptable" part of society hates you, and secretly most of them are wishing you were dead, so why not just give them what they want? I'm curious to what you think.
El bastardo

Crossville, TN

#2 Nov 18, 2012
Save money until you're able to move away. Out of the Bible Belt to somewhere where homosexuality is more socially acceptable.
My Opinion

Jamestown, TN

#3 Nov 18, 2012
I am totally believe in euthanasia. Everyone should have their own little pill to take when life becomes too much to bear.

Some want to impose their religious beliefs on others - THAT'S SO WRONG.

Why must one wait until one is terminally ill - some folks have mental illness that is not repairable or are not willing to tell a doctor about it. Why should one suffer for years

I hate all politicians who impose their views on others

I do empathize with your position since I do not like gays either and I know I will never change. I don't even know why I am this way - I just don't understand how someone can be gay, but that doesn't make the a bad person. Perhaps you could move to a new location, not tell anyone about being gay and make friends through volunteering. Dumb idea - right
I am asking

Jamestown, TN

#4 Nov 18, 2012
Why is it anyone's business what some people do in bed?????????? Most gays tell to get "spouse benefits". I still do NOT want to know what goes on in your bedroom, I most certainly will NOT tell you what I do.
my 2 cents

Livingston, TN

#5 Nov 18, 2012
confused wrote:
Should people ever consider suicide? If you know you're gay and living in a househould where you will never be accepted and you've exhausted all resources while trying vehemently to change, should you just kill yourself? Certainly, the "acceptable" part of society hates you, and secretly most of them are wishing you were dead, so why not just give them what they want? I'm curious to what you think.
There IS a way out much better than suicide. His name is JESUS!
DrEvil

Livingston, TN

#6 Nov 18, 2012
Buy a 44 mag its quick,
Betsy

Cookeville, TN

#7 Nov 18, 2012
my 2 cents wrote:
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There IS a way out much better than suicide. His name is JESUS!
I thought moving out of town sounded like a better idea.
groucho marxist

Jamestown, TN

#8 Nov 18, 2012
don't kill yourself just because you're gay. don't let them make you feel like you're not normal. if you can't learn to cope with being gay in this area, then just wait until you can move and do that. there are a few brave souls who remain in this area in spite of not being wanted or accepted, and if you think you can handle sticking around, then by all means go for it, but if there's nothing keeping you here and you don't like it here, then don't stay where people won't accept you. and always remember; they're the abnormal ones.
fyi

Jamestown, TN

#9 Nov 18, 2012
Please do not commit suicide. Things will get better for you. It is a shame that people do not accept how you are in the bible belt. I BELIEVE GOD ACCEPTS US ALL. Please learn to love and enjoy who you are. I was married into a family with a gay member. He moved away to CA to find a life of acceptance. Just please learn to be very safe. Read all you can about safe sex practices. Put your head up high and don't let those that don't understand make you feel bad about yourself/ GOD LOVES YOU JUST THE WAY YOU ARE. And don't ever ever let any of the selfrighteous people try to make you think differently. God bless you, try to find someone to inspire you ie Anderson Cooper, Elton John , Ellen Degeneres etc.
And later on in your life pay it forward and try to find someone to inspire.

Since: Jun 08

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#10 Nov 18, 2012
my 2 cents wrote:
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There IS a way out much better than suicide. His name is JESUS!
I agree..Jesus is the only true solution.
Mary

Jamestown, TN

#11 Nov 18, 2012
Green Hornet 007 wrote:
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I agree..Jesus is the only true solution.
Do not commit suicide. I believe Jesus loves the sinner, but hates the sin. The Bible speaks against" that which is not convenient." I do not think all the human urges will be gone immediately, but trust in Jesus and all your life will be better. I am your friend, we just havent met.
confused

Sevierville, TN

#12 Nov 19, 2012
my 2 cents wrote:
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There IS a way out much better than suicide. His name is JESUS!
I don't get it. You say "Jesus" is a better way. I went to church my entire life and had so much hate preached on me that I spent my entire teenage years crying and begging for forgiveness for something I couldn't help. I was so introverted I could barely speak to anyone. WHERE WAS JESUS THEN? I used to pray all the time, "God don't let me be gay." When I was about fifteen something just whispered, "if you weren't already, why would you even have to ask this?" On that day I just felt relief and began to accept it, but I swore to never act on my feelings. However, as years progressed and I began to grow up, I could not deny my nature. I don't know anyone else who can either--gay or straight. It is absolutely and totally unfair for anyone to ask me not to want to be loved and cared for by someone I can love. How can anyone tell another human being that because they are different, they must stay alone? What right does anyone have to tell anyone how to feel and condemn them for something they cannot help. As an adult, I delve into alcohol and drug abuse and drifted away from church because it seemed everytime I went back, some uneducated man got in the pulpit and preached a word that isn't even in the Bible "homosexuality." I knew he was trying to judge me. I couldn't count the times I've repented, but God has not changed me. I spent countless hours reading and studying the Bible, sitting with a psychologist, talked to doctors and ministers, and yet I still am exactly the way I am, maybe more convinced that people "strain at a gnat and swallow a camel." Most of the people my age have been married and divorced more than once. God destroyed Sodom and Gomorah,(according to most people), because of such sin, but God destroyed the entire world in Noah's day because of drinking, marrying and putting away marriage. It seems a whole lot like people just picking on something they don't do to take the light off what they are guilty of. Either way, we'll all be judged for what we've done. Hating and damning others is not my sin. Everyone says it's a choice. Well, it's not a choice. No one would choose to be hated by those they love most--their family. If you, as a straight person, can choose to be gay, you're not entirely straight. No truly straight person can choose to be gay. Likewise, no truly gay person can choose to be straight. Forcing them to do so is wrong on every level. You can just look at a person and tell, and Jamestown is full of gay men and women who rushed to marry when rumours started to fly. Being married to the opposite sex doesn't make them any less gay, it just makes them liars. And worse still, they brought someone else into living that lie with them.
Country girl at heart

Jamestown, TN

#13 Nov 19, 2012
I know suicide looks inviting but it's not the answer. Think of your friends and family who will live with the trauma. Look at Mary's response. Jesus does love the sinner - not the sin. Look deep within yourself-you have to love yourself for others to love you too. I moved from a big city to Jtown. I am amazed by the closed mindedness of the 'rightedness' of many. If you don't think, dress, behave the way 'they' want you are shunned. There are many opportunities out there with exceptance of who you are - go for it. I believe that we each have a purpose in life-we just have to figure it out. God didn't put us here to judge others-that's His job in the end. If this is your problem and not just a example then focus on what you want from life, make a plan and follow through. May you also find peace.

Since: Jun 08

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#15 Nov 19, 2012
Those in the gay lifestyle can and do come out of it. Various studies show that success rates of those wanting to leave the lifestyle range from 30% to 70%. It is, no doubt, difficult to leave the lifestyle. One reason it is so difficult is because of its addictive nature.
Even if it were shown that there is a genetic component to homosexuality, that would still not make it right. Compare, for example, alcoholism. It is generally believed that there is an inherited tendency for alcoholism. But that inherited tendency does not condone the behavior, nor does one who inherits the trait necessarily become addicted to alcohol. Society tries to compassionately help those caught in that addiction. While difficult, many people inflicted with alcoholism are successful in reforming their lives.
The medical and scientific evidence suggest that indeed, there is no such thing as "homosexuality," in the sense of genetic determination. Indeed, some in the homosexual community are now acknowledging that there is no "gay gene.
Even the liberal-leaning American Psychological Association has reversed its previous stance on this..
Those who insist on a genetic cause must answer an obvious question. Whenever we hear of someone who says that so-and-so was "born gay," we ask, "Which parent did he inherit his homosexuality from?" Obviously, homosexuals do not propogate themselves. Wouldn't natural selection have eleminated any gene that resisted propogation from the population?

http://www.faithfacts.org/christ-and-the-cult...

“'ello”

Since: Nov 09

burkettsville

#16 Nov 19, 2012
Green Hornet 007 wrote:
Those in the gay lifestyle can and do come out of it. Various studies show that success rates of those wanting to leave the lifestyle range from 30% to 70%. It is, no doubt, difficult to leave the lifestyle. One reason it is so difficult is because of its addictive nature.
Even if it were shown that there is a genetic component to homosexuality, that would still not make it right. Compare, for example, alcoholism. It is generally believed that there is an inherited tendency for alcoholism. But that inherited tendency does not condone the behavior, nor does one who inherits the trait necessarily become addicted to alcohol. Society tries to compassionately help those caught in that addiction. While difficult, many people inflicted with alcoholism are successful in reforming their lives.
The medical and scientific evidence suggest that indeed, there is no such thing as "homosexuality," in the sense of genetic determination. Indeed, some in the homosexual community are now acknowledging that there is no "gay gene.
Even the liberal-leaning American Psychological Association has reversed its previous stance on this..
Those who insist on a genetic cause must answer an obvious question. Whenever we hear of someone who says that so-and-so was "born gay," we ask, "Which parent did he inherit his homosexuality from?" Obviously, homosexuals do not propogate themselves. Wouldn't natural selection have eleminated any gene that resisted propogation from the population?
http://www.faithfacts.org/christ-and-the-cult...
right...love is just an addiction that must be overcome.

what a wreckless and dangerous viewpoint to take.

the church has the blood of many depressed and bullied homosexuals on its hands. let's try to limit those numbers, not grow them.
curious

Sevierville, TN

#17 Nov 19, 2012
Green Hornet 007 wrote:
Those in the gay lifestyle can and do come out of it. Various studies show that success rates of those wanting to leave the lifestyle range from 30% to 70%. It is, no doubt, difficult to leave the lifestyle. One reason it is so difficult is because of its addictive nature.
Even if it were shown that there is a genetic component to homosexuality, that would still not make it right. Compare, for example, alcoholism. It is generally believed that there is an inherited tendency for alcoholism. But that inherited tendency does not condone the behavior, nor does one who inherits the trait necessarily become addicted to alcohol. Society tries to compassionately help those caught in that addiction. While difficult, many people inflicted with alcoholism are successful in reforming their lives.
The medical and scientific evidence suggest that indeed, there is no such thing as "homosexuality," in the sense of genetic determination. Indeed, some in the homosexual community are now acknowledging that there is no "gay gene.
Even the liberal-leaning American Psychological Association has reversed its previous stance on this..
Those who insist on a genetic cause must answer an obvious question. Whenever we hear of someone who says that so-and-so was "born gay," we ask, "Which parent did he inherit his homosexuality from?" Obviously, homosexuals do not propogate themselves. Wouldn't natural selection have eleminated any gene that resisted propogation from the population?
http://www.faithfacts.org/christ-and-the-cult...
You have no idea what you are talking about. Down throughout history, homosexual behavior has been prevalent in all races. In the Roman empire, sex between men was often preferred and not frowned upon as long as the male was the dominant partner. This was carried down from the Greeks and other civilizations. No one made such a big deal out of it then, until everyone began following the Apostle Paul, who freely admitted his animosity for women and never married. Many times people deny their attractions but denying them doesn't mean they aren't there. "To look upon a woman to lust after her, a man has committed adultery already in his heart." Therefore thinking of a sin makes a man a sinner. There is no changing that. You are speaking of something you obviously know nothing about! Thus and therefore, you should shut it! I can remember having attractions for members of the same sex as long as I can remember and I never knew it was abnormal until some preacher started yacking. Jesus Christ never mentioned it in his speaking. You obviously don't know much about anything at all! I've been there. I know how awful it is. No one picks who they are attracted to. It is as natural as taste in food. We like what we like, and dislike others. There is a reason for reason, and you seem to have no ability to apply this, therefore your opinion is moot!

Since: Jun 08

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#18 Nov 19, 2012
poetaster wrote:
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right...love is just an addiction that must be overcome.
what a wreckless and dangerous viewpoint to take.
the church has the blood of many depressed and bullied homosexuals on its hands. let's try to limit those numbers, not grow them.
A sin is a sin is a sin..God is the one that stated certain things are a sin,not me..If you have a problem,then please pray to God and read His Word..

Since: Jun 08

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#19 Nov 19, 2012
curious wrote:
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You have no idea what you are talking about. Down throughout history, homosexual behavior has been prevalent in all races. In the Roman empire, sex between men was often preferred and not frowned upon as long as the male was the dominant partner. This was carried down from the Greeks and other civilizations. No one made such a big deal out of it then, until everyone began following the Apostle Paul, who freely admitted his animosity for women and never married. Many times people deny their attractions but denying them doesn't mean they aren't there. "To look upon a woman to lust after her, a man has committed adultery already in his heart." Therefore thinking of a sin makes a man a sinner. There is no changing that. You are speaking of something you obviously know nothing about! Thus and therefore, you should shut it! I can remember having attractions for members of the same sex as long as I can remember and I never knew it was abnormal until some preacher started yacking. Jesus Christ never mentioned it in his speaking. You obviously don't know much about anything at all! I've been there. I know how awful it is. No one picks who they are attracted to. It is as natural as taste in food. We like what we like, and dislike others. There is a reason for reason, and you seem to have no ability to apply this, therefore your opinion is moot!
I agree that homosexuality has gone on through the ages..Still does not make it right.God has said forever that it is a sin..
You stated that,"Jesus Christ never mentioned it in his speaking."..You are correct as far as that goes,but then Jesus never directly said pedophilia or bestiality was a sin,but it is..Why? Because the Bible,which is Gods Word,says it is throughout the Bible..
I have never been gay,so I do not know first hand how it feels,but there are many testimonies from former gay people who knows what it is all about..Read the following links..Also,from your post,you never read all the other websites I posted...There is "no" scientific evidence that homosexuality is genetic.Thus saying you were born gay is moot..No science there..God loves the sinner,but hates the sin..That means He loves you very much,but the sin he hates.He hates all sin,not just homosexuality...Have a great day.

http://pfox.org/Our_Ex-Gay_Stories.html

http://pfox.org/stories.html

http://www.sloppynoodle.com/wp/gods-amazing-g...

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#20 Nov 19, 2012
curious wrote:
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You have no idea what you are talking about. Down throughout history, homosexual behavior has been prevalent in all races. In the Roman empire, sex between men was often preferred and not frowned upon as long as the male was the dominant partner. This was carried down from the Greeks and other civilizations. No one made such a big deal out of it then, until everyone began following the Apostle Paul, who freely admitted his animosity for women and never married. Many times people deny their attractions but denying them doesn't mean they aren't there. "To look upon a woman to lust after her, a man has committed adultery already in his heart." Therefore thinking of a sin makes a man a sinner. There is no changing that. You are speaking of something you obviously know nothing about! Thus and therefore, you should shut it! I can remember having attractions for members of the same sex as long as I can remember and I never knew it was abnormal until some preacher started yacking. Jesus Christ never mentioned it in his speaking. You obviously don't know much about anything at all! I've been there. I know how awful it is. No one picks who they are attracted to. It is as natural as taste in food. We like what we like, and dislike others. There is a reason for reason, and you seem to have no ability to apply this, therefore your opinion is moot!
It's another slogan that passes for thought among the thinking-averse: "Jesus didn't say anything about homosexuality...." The rest of the sentence remains unspoken for fear that laughter might break out. "Jesus didn't say anything about homosexuality; therefore He approves of it."

First of all, that's what's known as an "argument from silence;" a logical fallacy. By this rule Jesus would be made to endorse rape, cannibalism and lots of other nasty stuff. Secondly, we cannot know whether Jesus, in His brief earthly ministry, ever mentioned homosexual sin specifically (see John 21:25), so the claim can't be substantiated. But the slogan is not only unverifiable and non-rational; it reveals ignorance of what we know Jesus did say. Though His teachings recorded in the gospels don't directly address the issue of same-sex sex, the Scriptures leave no room for an honest reader to conclude that Christ condones any sin, including this one.
Before we look at what Jesus said about homosexuality, let me explain my purpose in writing this. It isn't to put anyone down, or to say, "Jesus hates gays." If the Lord hated homosexual sinners, He would have to hate heterosexual sinners (like King David), and certainly murderers (like David, Moses and Paul), thieves, and so on, right down to jaywalkers. And me. And all Christians. If the Son of God had hated us sinners, He certainly wouldn't have endured torture and death on the cross to rescue us. To rescue us from our sins. My one intention is to help other believers respond to the far-less-than-half-truth that "Jesus didn't say anything about homosexuality.
Contrary to the popular misconception, Jesus is not the Second Moses. He didn't come to give us new laws, or to hand out free passes to break the old ones. Christ didn't have to stand on a mountain and repeat by name every sin mentioned in the Old Testament for all of those sins to remain sins. God, by definition, doesn't change; therefore He does not change His ideas about what's right and wrong. If sin is not sin, then God is not God.*

Jesus addressed all sins generally when He said, "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill. For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass away from the Law, until all is accomplished." (Matt. 5:17,18) Again in Luke 16:16,17 ..

http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/popp/1111...

“'ello”

Since: Nov 09

burkettsville

#21 Nov 19, 2012
Green Hornet 007 wrote:
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A sin is a sin is a sin..God is the one that stated certain things are a sin,not me..If you have a problem,then please pray to God and read His Word..
i did pray! god told me he's fine with the gays. problem solved!!

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