States Reject Obamacare by Nov. 16

States Reject Obamacare by Nov. 16

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#1 Nov 15, 2012
URGENT ALERT: ObamaCare Deadline Nov 16th, Secrets They Don’t Want You To Know. Video

Thursday, November 15, 2012 7:53

President Obama’s re-election solidified the future of national health care, and now it’s up to the states to carry it out.

They have to work quickly.
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http://beforeitsnews.com/healthcare/2012/11/u...
Chancesify

Jamestown, TN

#2 Nov 15, 2012
Thanks Dollop! Once your job is lost, your utilities are up, food dollar is stretched to the max. Lets see how folks devise ways to come up with $3,200.00 annually for health "care"
Once the "chip" is planted in your body (March 2013) the feds can find you and track your every move.
Supreme Court ruling on this is completely discriminatory--eliminating politicians and selected groups from this "mandatory" ruling.
With 8 billion folks on planet, there is room for 2 maybe 3 billion, according to enviros. How to eliminate these extra people? Their devious ways are profoundly numerous--from weather manipulation to pharmaceutical, to genetically altered seed to declining medical attention to elderly. Pick your poison.
Rebel Buck

Indian Trail, NC

#3 Nov 16, 2012
The toilet paper is poisoned!!!

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#4 Nov 17, 2012
Medical giant Stryker cuts 1,170 jobs, citing ObamaCare

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/16/me...

Also recently read some reports that some hospitals are closing their doors because of Obamacare..With everyone being covered by Obamacare,what good will it do when a lot of hospitals are closed,and doctors quit or retire early?
MasterChief

Charlotte, NC

#5 Nov 18, 2012
Green Hornet , your argument would have been much better if you hadn't cited Fox news as a source HA. They could tell you the sky was green and the stars were falling. Then you and dollop would be on here thumping your Bibles and babbling on. When in the REAL world were most people live the sky is blue , stars aren't falling and America is catching up on the times, giving its citizens affordable healthcare.

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#6 Nov 18, 2012
MasterChief wrote:
Green Hornet , your argument would have been much better if you hadn't cited Fox news as a source HA. They could tell you the sky was green and the stars were falling. Then you and dollop would be on here thumping your Bibles and babbling on. When in the REAL world were most people live the sky is blue , stars aren't falling and America is catching up on the times, giving its citizens affordable healthcare.
It gives us total socialized medicine,which does not work and will cause this country to go bankrupt..Too bad you do not like Fox News..They generally give both sides of an issue especially on O'Rileys show..The article I posted is genuine..If it is wrong,then cite another news source to the contrary.
Rebel Buck

Ringgold, GA

#7 Nov 18, 2012
Tell us please green hornet....what would be the correct/bedtvthing to do with healthcare???
MasterChief

Charlotte, NC

#8 Nov 18, 2012
Not only can it work, but it is currently working. And saying fox news gives both sides is like saying Hitler heard the Jews story before they were gassed.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2011/05...

Since: Jun 08

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#9 Nov 18, 2012
MasterChief wrote:
Not only can it work, but it is currently working. And saying fox news gives both sides is like saying Hitler heard the Jews story before they were gassed.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2011/05...
You call it working when businesses are cutting back hours to employes now,and laying off people even before the full Obamacare goes into effect? Hospitals are closing,and that is good? Wait until Obamacare kicks in and doctors retire early or quit..Is that good? Nope...Show me where the Fox news report is wrong on that article...Fox news is much much better than CNN or CNBC by far.

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#10 Nov 18, 2012
Rebel Buck wrote:
Tell us please green hornet....what would be the correct/bedtvthing to do with healthcare???
Maybe some sort of voucher program..
MasterChief

Charlotte, NC

#11 Nov 18, 2012
Your to far gone, the right has you brainwashed.

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#12 Nov 18, 2012
MasterChief wrote:
Your to far gone, the right has you brainwashed.
Brain washed? No...To the right? Yes..
master the dope

Southampton, PA

#13 Nov 29, 2012
MasterChief wrote:
Green Hornet , your argument would have been much better if you hadn't cited Fox news as a source HA. They could tell you the sky was green and the stars were falling. Then you and dollop would be on here thumping your Bibles and babbling on. When in the REAL world were most people live the sky is blue , stars aren't falling and America is catching up on the times, giving its citizens affordable healthcare.
Listen,dopey,how can Obamacare help those poor people who don't have money to buy healthcare,don't forget if they don't buy it they will be fined or put in jail(a fact dopey) and Obama will hire 15,000 NEW Federal workers to inforce it,15,000 more workers on the payroll,does that make sense dopey?And what the hell does the Bible have to do with it unless you are a Homo,are you a Homo Master?Do you watch that Dyk on MSNBC the Obama Nazi network, If you do then I would say you are brain washed, but it doesn't look like you have a brain...

“'ello”

Since: Nov 09

burkettsville

#14 Nov 29, 2012
Green Hornet 007 wrote:
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It gives us total socialized medicine,which does not work and will cause this country to go bankrupt..Too bad you do not like Fox News..They generally give both sides of an issue especially on O'Rileys show..The article I posted is genuine..If it is wrong,then cite another news source to the contrary.
'total socialized medicine' has been working quite well for a long time and is very popular in the uk and canada. but anyway,'total socialized medicine' is not what we're getting. i WISH it were what we are getting...maybe someday....

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#15 Nov 29, 2012
poetaster wrote:
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'total socialized medicine' has been working quite well for a long time and is very popular in the uk and canada. but anyway,'total socialized medicine' is not what we're getting. i WISH it were what we are getting...maybe someday....
It is not working there either.Here is an interesting article.

There is more than a little irony attached to the Obama administration’s determination to pursue socialist, EU-style “solutions” to America’s problems, even as the European Union is coming to grips with the bitter realities such socialism produces. And while Greece and its financial problems receive some media coverage in the United States, there is a much bigger story flying under the mainstream media radar: in Britain, Prime Minister David Cameron has introduced a bill seeking to partially privatize the National Health Service (NHS). Why? Because the British government is “hoping to avoid a Greek-style financial meltdown.”

The system’s defenders are upset. The Times of London is reporting that Health Secretary Andrew Lansley is in the eye of the storm.“Andrew Lansley should be taken out and shot,” said an unnamed “Downing Street source.”“He’s messed up both the communication and the substance of the policy.” The source further contended that Lansley was “a disaster” and “a law unto himself.” The British Medical Association and the Royal College of Nursing also want the bill withdrawn, as do members of the Royal College of Pediatrics and Child Health, the Royal Medical Colleges, including the Royal College of GPs. Unions, including the Royal College of Midwives, want to “kill the bill” as well, while Labor Party leader Ed Miliband accused Mr. Cameron of failing to listen to the experts.
Such rationing–and it is rationing–is nothing new. A 2011 report revealed that independent medical providers were experiencing a growing number of patients choosing to pay for their own care after having treatment delayed or denied altogether by an NHS primary care trust (PCT). A survey of 101 influential industry figures revealed that 34 percent believed “budgetary pressure in the NHS” was the principle cause. At the annual meeting of the Chartered Society of Physiotherapy (CSP) earlier this month, members contended that they were “increasingly being asked to make decisions based on financial rather than clinical reasons and to ration their care,” further noting that such rationing “was on a scale that had never been seen before across both acute and non acute NHS services.”

Last November, such rationing reached a scandalous level. A study by the Co-operation and Competition Panel (CCP) revealed that Primary Care Trust (PCT) heads were imposing arbitrary spending caps, denying patients treatment for procedures such as hip replacements and cataract removals–and that waiting times for services were being deliberately extended “so that patients would go private or die before they were seen” to slash costs. Secretary Lansley was furious.“For too long, Labour turned a blind eye to unfair practices within the NHS which harmed patients,” he said.“No right-thinking person could possibly understand how anyone could delay a patient’s treatment unnecessarily. If patients need treatment, they should get it as soon as possible, and where they choose.”

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#16 Nov 29, 2012
“As soon as possible” is yet another euphemism. Brits have a legal right under the NHS Constitution to start their hospital treatment–within 18 weeks after a referral by a GP. Yet referrals require diagnoses, and the wait for those is increasing as well. The Guardian reports a 92 percent increase compared to last year in the number of people waiting more than the NHS’s recommended six-weeks for a diagnostic test at an NHS hospital. In other words, even under optimum conditions, people suffering from afflictions such as heart disease and cancer will face more than a five-and-a-half month wait before getting the treatment they need.

http://frontpagemag.com/2012/arnold-ahlert/wh...

“'ello”

Since: Nov 09

burkettsville

#17 Nov 29, 2012
it is working there! try asking the british or canadian citizens how they feel about their health care. and then ask them if they'd rather have it our way. the british in particular are very fond and proud of their health care system.

“'ello”

Since: Nov 09

burkettsville

#18 Nov 29, 2012
and! even if they did 'partially privatize' their health care system in the uk, it would still be much more socialized than what the health care reform act is putting into place, which can barely be described as 'partially socialized'

you know, if you look hard enough, you can find an article to agree with whatever opinion you hold. that doesn't make it right, or any other opinion wrong. they're still just opinions.
Rebel Buck

Indian Trail, NC

#19 Nov 29, 2012
Ive paid for both cigna and blue cross and ive always had to wait on a referring physician andvthen wait on a specialist appt then wait for tests/ surgery to be approved
So you post holds no water....
Green Hornet 007 wrote:
<quoted text>
It is not working there either.Here is an interesting article.
There is more than a little irony attached to the Obama administration’s determination to pursue socialist, EU-style “solutions” to America’s problems, even as the European Union is coming to grips with the bitter realities such socialism produces. And while Greece and its financial problems receive some media coverage in the United States, there is a much bigger story flying under the mainstream media radar: in Britain, Prime Minister David Cameron has introduced a bill seeking to partially privatize the National Health Service (NHS). Why? Because the British government is “hoping to avoid a Greek-style financial meltdown.”
The system’s defenders are upset. The Times of London is reporting that Health Secretary Andrew Lansley is in the eye of the storm.“Andrew Lansley should be taken out and shot,” said an unnamed “Downing Street source.”“He’s messed up both the communication and the substance of the policy.” The source further contended that Lansley was “a disaster” and “a law unto himself.” The British Medical Association and the Royal College of Nursing also want the bill withdrawn, as do members of the Royal College of Pediatrics and Child Health, the Royal Medical Colleges, including the Royal College of GPs. Unions, including the Royal College of Midwives, want to “kill the bill” as well, while Labor Party leader Ed Miliband accused Mr. Cameron of failing to listen to the experts.
Such rationing–and it is rationing–is nothing new. A 2011 report revealed that independent medical providers were experiencing a growing number of patients choosing to pay for their own care after having treatment delayed or denied altogether by an NHS primary care trust (PCT). A survey of 101 influential industry figures revealed that 34 percent believed “budgetary pressure in the NHS” was the principle cause. At the annual meeting of the Chartered Society of Physiotherapy (CSP) earlier this month, members contended that they were “increasingly being asked to make decisions based on financial rather than clinical reasons and to ration their care,” further noting that such rationing “was on a scale that had never been seen before across both acute and non acute NHS services.”
Last November, such rationing reached a scandalous level. A study by the Co-operation and Competition Panel (CCP) revealed that Primary Care Trust (PCT) heads were imposing arbitrary spending caps, denying patients treatment for procedures such as hip replacements and cataract removals–and that waiting times for services were being deliberately extended “so that patients would go private or die before they were seen” to slash costs. Secretary Lansley was furious.“For too long, Labour turned a blind eye to unfair practices within the NHS which harmed patients,” he said.“No right-thinking person could possibly understand how anyone could delay a patient’s treatment unnecessarily. If patients need treatment, they should get it as soon as possible, and where they choose.”

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