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Altoona, PA

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#81
Apr 3, 2009
 
not sure, this is what I heard from someone that still is working there but she was on a work share day that day. He don't like it that they have all those racks in the plant too for the mir's lines
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#82
Apr 3, 2009
 
Does Cindy in H.R. still work there?
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#83
Apr 4, 2009
 
taxpayer wrote:
Does Cindy in H.R. still work there?
She was still there last week.
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#84
Apr 4, 2009
 
Does anyone know how many people have been laid off at the PA plants? Last I heard McElhattan has laid off 43 people. All PA plants still have all shifts up and running. We have all watched TL do alot stranger things than add on to a building as "laid off" hinted too! "The Roger" really does'nt need TL to survive. I surmise TL is a nice write off for him.
lala

Lancaster, KY

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#85
Apr 4, 2009
 
I believe that when they started hireing management people from PA to replace people that really knew how to manage TL was in big trouble.I have to wonder who was watching the store then? I think the only thing they were looking at were the numbers.$$$$. Too bad that they didn't see this coming. Good loyal people had to go because the cost was to high and when you put inexperienced people in the lead it's down hill all the way. I too am sorry to see what has happened but have faith that it will all turn out and everyone will be called back.I remain, in solidarity.
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Lancaster, KY

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#86
Apr 4, 2009
 
You are right about Roger, LeRoy. Check out his website. The man is worth 2.2 billion. TL is a small entity to him. Just a way to get a little extra cash when all is going well there. I understand they do have some people laid off in the PA plants but not sure of the number. You have to remember that besides being a distribution plant, McElhatten is also a molding facility supposedly on 24/7 but not anymore....not enough work.
Lala hit the nail on the head with the management from PA. Not only "the little guy" but the lying VP up front all the way to the Pres. of the Company. They are both spending a lot of their time on the floor getting to the people that believe them and pass it on to the others. It would be great if Roger is really on their butts to get the racking down and maybe get an aquistion or two in there and bring back the people. Then most of us wouldn't have time to be on here trying to figure all of this out from the outside.
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Lititz, PA

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#87
Apr 5, 2009
 
I hope Roger really put's it to Brian. I heard he was really nervous about Roger coming. Now we know why. Alot of people felt we sould of been picketing when Roger was there. To let him know of all the jobs that they shipped out.
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#88
Apr 5, 2009
 
Gogirl wrote:
I hope Roger really put's it to Brian. I heard he was really nervous about Roger coming. Now we know why. Alot of people felt we sould of been picketing when Roger was there. To let him know of all the jobs that they shipped out.
Wish I would have thought of that.
lala

Lancaster, KY

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#89
Apr 5, 2009
 
leroy wrote:
<quoted text>Wish I would have thought of that.
History shows that if you want something bad enough you fight for it.Your right about the people being outside to let Roger know how you feel.A little publicity never hurt anything.
Lawdog

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#90
Apr 6, 2009
 
Lets face it, they don't care about thelittle people because they still have all the VP's. Look at all the money there.
ugly Betty

Savona, NY

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#91
Apr 6, 2009
 
I agree with you all that money and what do they do to earn it. I know of one although he isn't a vice president, I am sure he makes good wages and for what he does nothing. Just walks around and drinks coffee, they were smart when they let the little guy go but they forgot the other one. Oh well will just have to wait and see what happens to the people and Truck-Lite

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Lancaster, KY

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#92
Apr 7, 2009
 
The one they forgot is in pretty tight with the VP up front, so he won't go anywhere for awhile. He begged to keep the supervisor because he got nervous not knowing what to do. So sad. They like to throw their weight around and when it comes right down to it, don't know squat. Gotta remember they are all number crunchers. Now that a few weeks have gone by they expect everyone to get those rates up on the mirror lines. What a way to work. Let one of them step in there and do it. They wouldn't know the first thing about it. All simple and easy for them because they DON'T have to do it. Sometimes some of them forget that they came from rank and file too. Just makes you want to shake your head.
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#93
Apr 7, 2009
 
What does that guy have on them? Of course management likes to keep people that the blue collars do not like. I never did know what his job description was. Now that he has his old job back did he get a raise oh silly me he never took a wage reduction to begin with! That just burns my butt!
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Altoona, PA

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#94
Apr 7, 2009
 
All the comp. people didn't get a raise this yr I do know that was for sure. but what about the higher up?

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La Fayette, GA

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#95
Apr 7, 2009
 
Good discussion going here. lala-good posts.#85 is so accurate with the management opinion. The 'good old boys club'. Though the economic downturn worldwide can be blamed partially, I feel they used it to their advantage. It can all be attributed to the main reason the nation is in the mess it is in... GREED! I think what aggravates me the most about the whole situation is that they were so arrogant and evil through the whole process. They were void of any compassion and refused to acknowledge the value, integrity and loyalty of the majority of their workforce. It's sad. Months leading up to the last layoff, there was much money and time spent on moving equipment around only to be moved again... out of the building! With each move out, jobs were excessed, new jobs posted and people moved to different jobs and many times to different shifts. I don't know for fact, but it is my opinion that management knew the final play in the last minutes of the 4th quarter at that time and just took great pleasure in messing with people's lives before the final boot out the door.
We can't judge other people's motives, but one day we will all stand before the One who can and will.
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#96
Apr 7, 2009
 
Good Word DoNotFear!! I have been wondering also if they had to have known what was coming at the end of the year (2008). Frieghtliner was announcing in the newspapers the beginning of the year the dates of their layoffs and the amount of people to be laid off. Their next one is coming up on May 8th. You can check that date if you google Frieghtliner. If they knew, the powers that be could have possibly known and forewarned those who have been laid off and given some time to prepare a little.
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#97
Apr 7, 2009
 
Friend wrote:
Good Word DoNotFear!! I have been wondering also if they had to have known what was coming at the end of the year (2008). Frieghtliner was announcing in the newspapers the beginning of the year the dates of their layoffs and the amount of people to be laid off. Their next one is coming up on May 8th. You can check that date if you google Frieghtliner. If they knew, the powers that be could have possibly known and forewarned those who have been laid off and given some time to prepare a little.
Like i said in a post on here before.Nancy,left falconer plant and went to Pa plant as a HR directer.Right after that, lines were getting ripped out and moved to Mac.You people left at Truck-Lite have to understand that they are moveing to Pa. Yep, we are in a recession now, thats why the move has stalled.When Nancy left , the plan was to move it to Pa and save millions.It takes years to faze out one and faze it into another place. There not gonna call a meeting and tell the workers that were moveing.It dont matter to them you been there 20 plus years.They can build the same part,charge the same rate, and double there profit by relocating.People say its the union and its their fault.Com panies can do what ever they want to make that buisnees thrive.As far as the union goes,all they did was git us a raise, and raise the union dues up in january.Its kinda like people that smoke will go to Salamanca to get smokes,and while there get a tank full of gas. Its cheaper.All Truck-Lite cares about is makeing a product,for the less overhead possiable.Cant blame them.The falconer plant will be gone.Only a matter of time. Its up to the workers there now, weather they want to stay and have a check till whenever or get out and move on now.Or you can sit there and believe what they tell you, and walk threw the plant and see all the lines gone and the people that ran em.

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La Fayette, GA

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#98
Apr 9, 2009
 
sandrat wrote:
<quoted text> They can build the same part,charge the same rate, and double there profit by relocating....Its cheaper.All Truck-Lite cares about is makeing a product,for the less overhead possiable.Cant blame the
And like I said...it all comes down to GREED! How much is enough? The company management told the workforce that if they were expecting to get rich, they were in the wrong place. Nobody expected to get "rich". All we want is a decent day's wage for a decent day's work. The people on the floor actually ran the place. They are the ones who worked the kinks out of new products and did whatever it took to get product out when in a pinch. There were many fine people who truly cared about what they did, weren't afraid to go out of their "comfort zone" or the boundaries of their job descriptions...working "together" to accomplish a common goal so the business would thrive. Because we were the ones on the floor, working with the product and equipment (how many in management actually knew what was going on out on the floor?)we had many ideas and suggestions as to how to save money. Management treated us like lowly, know-nothings and with their arrogance, disregarded anything we had to say. I still ask myself the question...what did Penske and Co. see in Truck-Lite when he invested in it? It is my belief that he saw a dedicated workforce that with his capital could grow a booming business. I don't for one minute think he looked at it as a "write-off". If only the top guys would have been more involved with the workforce instead of being snowballed by those who report to them. We did have one who did just that and they got rid of him. Many of us miss him dearly. All in all it is an ever spreading sickness that starts with the government and trickles through corporate America. They just don't get it that people just want to work, earn a fair wage and support their families.
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#99
Apr 9, 2009
 
We did have one who did just that and they got rid of him. Many of us miss him dearly. Who? T.F?
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Apr 9, 2009
 
DoNotFear wrote:
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And like I said...it all comes down to GREED! How much is enough? The company management told the workforce that if they were expecting to get rich, they were in the wrong place. Nobody expected to get "rich". All we want is a decent day's wage for a decent day's work. The people on the floor actually ran the place. They are the ones who worked the kinks out of new products and did whatever it took to get product out when in a pinch. There were many fine people who truly cared about what they did, weren't afraid to go out of their "comfort zone" or the boundaries of their job descriptions...working "together" to accomplish a common goal so the business would thrive. Because we were the ones on the floor, working with the product and equipment (how many in management actually knew what was going on out on the floor?)we had many ideas and suggestions as to how to save money. Management treated us like lowly, know-nothings and with their arrogance, disregarded anything we had to say. I still ask myself the question...what did Penske and Co. see in Truck-Lite when he invested in it? It is my belief that he saw a dedicated workforce that with his capital could grow a booming business. I don't for one minute think he looked at it as a "write-off". If only the top guys would have been more involved with the workforce instead of being snowballed by those who report to them. We did have one who did just that and they got rid of him. Many of us miss him dearly. All in all it is an ever spreading sickness that starts with the government and trickles through corporate America. They just don't get it that people just want to work, earn a fair wage and support their families.
That's right they did say if we are working here to get rich we are in the wrong place. When i stated it is a write off for "The Roger" I still believe it to be true. Look at his bio if he can make some money off TL good if not oh well. How many times has he showed up and talked to the troops on the ground? If he really was concerned he would have done that at least once a year.Besides that it is tax time. They have 20 more on work share today and 20 yesterday and are still denying the stock people work share. I agree it is the troops on the ground that ran the place but in any company thats the way it is. The higher ups go by what sounds good on paper. Lets keep the faith and peace to all!

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