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Lack if raising

United States

#28 May 28, 2012
Well Mel I do refer to them as English because that's what they are. I will admit that there has been watering down of thier breed's bloodline over the years but that gives you no right to make a broad brush statement about thier whole group. That makes you just as bad as the jays on here. I for one am a pure blood I.T. but how many of our people don't have a little something extra mixed in with them? That doesn't make them bad, unless they are personally bad. I was raised to treat people on a person to person basis.
Mel Columcille Gibson

United States

#29 May 28, 2012
Not looking for a argument , you seem fairly intractible on the subject, as I am... I will say you've their dilution in reverse, the Rom/Gypsies (We, and oddly they call them Turks ) were 1st noted in Great Britain in 1501.. Over the next several centuries they intermixed with locals enough that they actually call themselves English.. That lineage is very different indeed from ours..For the record I'm not including the Lizards with this bunch, they are clearly a different breed.. Course they don't call themselves Romanichel...Elvis wasn't , but the English actor Bob Hoskins' Mother was a Romany, something about Adam Ant too. Both very swarthy . And Chaplin I understand .
Lack if raising

United States

#30 May 28, 2012
The "filthy half Turk" comment is what I find disturbing. To call a group of people filthy because of thier lineage in my opinion is no better than the jays on here saying we're all inbreed crooks. How ever they came about it is not for us to look down or feel superior just because. I've met many good ones and some scum. Same with my own breed.
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Minot, ND

#31 May 28, 2012
I am english..And i have many I.T Good freinds..things have changed a lot in the last 20 years..most breeds have turned to god...so in my eyes i know we are all diffrent then country people..i have got mad and said things..But if i realy need a favor..i have I.T freinds And scotch freinds that would do what ever they could if i needed them..I dont feel im no better then the next man..I want to live my life out and when i die i want to go to heaven..And by us putting each other down dont look good in the lords eyes..i am also related to all other breeds though marriage..i know years ago we was all taught to think our breed was some how better then all the others..but think about it guys..does all thet matter?Taking care of my family..and treating my friends good is what matters to me..some of the best freinds i got is I.TS..and if we all just take the time to get to know each other..we will find we are all alot alike..I have to agree with Lack of raising on most of his comments..i also have family that is no good low life people..but i know how far to let them push before i walk away..if we would put as much effort in to being freinds as there has been putting each other down..i think we would all be very good freinds,Jesus christ is the only man who is above us all..and i have been praying for the ones who is sending out hate messages..i know its caused from hearing older generations talk...but things have changed..i have taught my children to respect all other breeds of travelers..and if the others peoples choice if they want to put there self above us..Jesus Christ is the man!
Lack if raising

United States

#32 May 28, 2012
You're right. There is not one bad thing in any of our breeds that the other doesn't have. Truth is that we have been to influenced by the outside world and have let to many things infiltrate our culture. Some breeds just done it quicker than others. I feel our moral standards are at an all time low in all breeds. The lines are very blurred between us and the jays. We can go to church,listen to all the priest and preachers messages but there is a difference between listening and hearing! The bible says faith without works is dead. To be holy at church and shred people when we leave does no good.
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Minot, ND

#33 May 28, 2012
Very well said,And almost all of the I.T.S i know over the age of 20 seem to have been raised with the same morals as you are saying..We dont gain nothing by putting each other down..it only makes the jays think we hate each other,It would be a awfull feeling to get to the pealy gates to find out jesus christ was part turk lol,i dont think that would be the case..I am sure christ was a non traveler and said all men was created equal..so to me that meens he wants us all to treat each other with respect..It does bother to think my sons would grow up to have hate for other travelers..But i know my children all was raised with faith and my oldest son wants to preach the word..and i hope he does because im afraid of what could happen 20 years from now as long as hate is being taught by other parents..We all know our lives are changing and we have to change with the times..and at some point we are all going to have to pull together to show the world we are not bad people..and this tlc show mbfgw is only making us look like fools..we are now being made fun of on late night tv..Tlc has went out of there way to show the worst in the people they have filmed..i know most of the people thats been on the show..and they have chose to highlight the travelers who has personel demonds that needs help..but they are being made fun of instead..I pray our children and familys can overcome the damage that is being caused by a handfull of our own.Its true we arent all educated as far as schooling..but we are all gifted with a lot of smarts in life..we are not the dumb people they are making us out to be..The point im trying to make..we all need each other more now then ever..even if most dont understand..Look at whats happened in the UK..We dont want our children and grandchildren to have to be dscriminated like them people..in the jays eyes they look at all of us the same..its only the travelers/romanys thats starting this fire and tlc is getting rich from it..people love to see travelers beat on each other on youtube..we are becoming a joke to the public..and we are the only ones that can stand up and stop this..and its going to take all of us to do it..im sorry to be so long winded..but my thaughts are very deep on what is happening..I kinda think i know which group you come from .Lack of raising..You have the same morals as most of my I.T freinds..I can tell you are a good person and you also see what happening..thank god for you and others like you!
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Minot, ND

#34 May 28, 2012
Mel Columcille Gibson wrote:
<quoted text>Hey Eddie speaking of REFFS, you gotta be proud as punch of your fellow Romanis on that moronic show.. Please don't try and tell me they aren't real Romanichel , last I heard Boswell , Stanley & Small we're real" English" (filthy half/Turk Reffs) Romani Names..Scurfs
Mel,if you was ever to get the chance to go hang out with the smalls,Stanleys and Boswell people..I think you would like them..most of them people would give you the shoes from there feet..there is some bad ones..but you have to consider how many of them there is..I can say that most of them are good people..and it is hard not to like most of them..like all big familys..drugs and drinking has got ahold of some good men..and there is a few that even there own parents cant get along with... i put the blame on the paving biz..because the hired men introduced drugs to most of the travelers and made it easy for them to get..years ago drinking was the worse thing that any of the men done..we are dealing with a whole other thing now..i have lost a few close family members due to there use of drugs..im talking kids from 17 to adults as old as 45..there is so many things that needs fixed..i hope we are all able to have perfect familys one day..i lay awake at night and think these things over so hard it causes me to loose concentration of daily life and its hard to talk to alot of people that understands,i guess most can pretend like these problems dont exist..sad fact is it does.
Lack if raising

United States

#35 May 28, 2012
Except for fighting Frankie Small! He's a party crasher. Lol
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Minot, ND

#36 May 28, 2012
I have to agree fighting frank was funny..there always has to be one in the crowd rofl,He punched the dear old man then run,I still have to laugh when i think about that..And the wedding of ammie and morris...ammie is fighting franks sister..Jed clampett has nothing on them rofl,And the other girl mellie is now a all nude stripper since the show aired..And i heard tlc is trying to do a spin off show just about her now..and i would guess she will do it lol..last nights episode wasnt even worth watching..it was more like all reffs then anything..next week is supposed to be the one where the girls have the fight..i bet jay leno will have plenty say about next weeks show..there is a petition everyone can sign against the show..right now about 300 people has signed it..but they need 5000 people..it only requires a click if you have a fb account..im am going to sign it..but i need to get the link sent to me again..i erased it accidently when it was sent to me.
Mike

Lake City, FL

#37 May 28, 2012
Agree wrote:
Very well said,And almost all of the I.T.S i know over the age of 20 seem to have been raised with the same morals as you are saying..We dont gain nothing by putting each other down..it only makes the jays think we hate each other,It would be a awfull feeling to get to the pealy gates to find out jesus christ was part turk lol,i dont think that would be the case..I am sure christ was a non traveler and said all men was created equal..so to me that meens he wants us all to treat each other with respect..It does bother to think my sons would grow up to have hate for other travelers..But i know my children all was raised with faith and my oldest son wants to preach the word..and i hope he does because im afraid of what could happen 20 years from now as long as hate is being taught by other parents..We all know our lives are changing and we have to change with the times..and at some point we are all going to have to pull together to show the world we are not bad people..and this tlc show mbfgw is only making us look like fools..we are now being made fun of on late night tv..Tlc has went out of there way to show the worst in the people they have filmed..i know most of the people thats been on the show..and they have chose to highlight the travelers who has personel demonds that needs help..but they are being made fun of instead..I pray our children and familys can overcome the damage that is being caused by a handfull of our own.Its true we arent all educated as far as schooling..but we are all gifted with a lot of smarts in life..we are not the dumb people they are making us out to be..The point im trying to make..we all need each other more now then ever..even if most dont understand..Look at whats happened in the UK..We dont want our children and grandchildren to have to be dscriminated like them people..in the jays eyes they look at all of us the same..its only the travelers/romanys thats starting this fire and tlc is getting rich from it..people love to see travelers beat on each other on youtube..we are becoming a joke to the public..and we are the only ones that can stand up and stop this..and its going to take all of us to do it..im sorry to be so long winded..but my thaughts are very deep on what is happening..I kinda think i know which group you come from .Lack of raising..You have the same morals as most of my I.T freinds..I can tell you are a good person and you also see what happening..thank god for you and others like you!
I dont got no kids and i think its every dog for ther self'do all the wishful thinkin you want but im still goin to get my riches how ever i can and selling blacktop is the best way i know and nothing will stop me because there is a sucker born every minute and im going to get the rowdy how ever i got to and i dont give a dam about nobody else i drive the best and eat and live the best and nothing or nobody can change it so while you guys are savin the world ill be stacken them presidents if thats what makes you all happy it makes me happy to
Lack if raising

United States

#38 May 28, 2012
The smart ones can do both Mike.
Mike wrote:
<quoted text>I dont got no kids and i think its every dog for ther self'do all the wishful thinkin you want but im still goin to get my riches how ever i can and selling blacktop is the best way i know and nothing will stop me because there is a sucker born every minute and im going to get the rowdy how ever i got to and i dont give a dam about nobody else i drive the best and eat and live the best and nothing or nobody can change it so while you guys are savin the world ill be stacken them presidents if thats what makes you all happy it makes me happy to
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Minot, ND

#39 May 28, 2012
Mel,It kinda seems to me like you just like the thrill of arguing and somehow you have convinced yourself your better then any other human?At first you seemed like you was trying to make the good fight and was just a stand up guy,But now no matter what is said you are fast to pass judgement on other travelers/romanys just because there skin has a little diffrent tone then others?I hope im wrong..Can you just be point blank about what it is you are trying to prove?Does this meen you and i couldnt be freinds or or shake hands just because the color of my hair and maybe my skin tone might be a little darker then yours?I assure you i would not judge you for those reasons..I would only judge you as to the way you treated me as a human..At this point we are all american travelers or american romany.And we all kinda face the same daily things in life,I would rather be a freind to any kind of traveler rather then try to put a label on you!I am not poor.and i have as much worldly assets as any traveler,but im no better then you or the guy who has nothing..Its kinda sad mel to see travelers running each other down.Its like my mother always said..if you dont have something nice to say..then dont say it..and i do kinda think we can have fun teasing each other about our backgrounds..as long as we keep it funny and show some respect,I am not going to argue no more..i will only respond to those who can treat others like people and not like dirt,I am very sorry for what ever has been done to cause your feelings towards my breed of people,It is what it is and i cant change what caused you to look down on us!There was only one perfect man..and he died for our sins,who ever you are i wish you many blessings in life,And if you dont like me for that i cant do nothing to change who or what i am..You have to be a freind to have a freind,I am watching the hattfields and mcoys..it almost reminds me of your way of thinking lol,Good night and i hope you think about life in a diffrent light,there is good and bad in all our familys!
Lack if raising

United States

#40 May 28, 2012
Mel. I do believe I've figured out who you are. I've re read old comments and picked up on your cant dialect and your word phrasing. If I am right we used to be good friends back in the day. I have rarely seen you in the past decade or so. I breifly seen you last yesr for the first time in years. Your vocabulary has improved but your views on people haven't. I won't say who I think for two reasons. One, if I'm wrong I don't want to say the name and two, if I'm right there seems to be alot of people mad at you. And if I am right you'll know who I am too.
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Minot, ND

#41 May 29, 2012
Lack if raising wrote:
Mel. I do believe I've figured out who you are. I've re read old comments and picked up on your cant dialect and your word phrasing. If I am right we used to be good friends back in the day. I have rarely seen you in the past decade or so. I breifly seen you last yesr for the first time in years. Your vocabulary has improved but your views on people haven't. I won't say who I think for two reasons. One, if I'm wrong I don't want to say the name and two, if I'm right there seems to be alot of people mad at you. And if I am right you'll know who I am too.
I only know one group of people that talks so bad of others,And the group Some of the western scothch,most of the ones who think like this dont even realize there own erogance,Mel at one time said he wasnt a I.T the he says he is a I.T repuplic,I am having a hard time picking up on who this person is..And My first guess would have been he is not a born american traveler,only because they wat he phrases things,It dont matter to much to me because i would never take things no further then talking,Mel you have your oppinions wich i dont agree with..but thats fine because im glad to know there is travelers out there that still think like you do..i thaught that was behind us all,Well its the 5th day of rain in a row lol,I would love to get finished so i can get out of this place..its looking like thursday or friday the weather might clear lol,the spring started out so nice and has gotten worse every week here,,Its just about 500 miles to far north for me,I dont like 2 and 3 day work weeks lol
Mel Columcille Gibson

United States

#42 May 29, 2012
My, My,My I seem to have drawn the ire of some of my fellow posters here. Was not my intent I assure ya'll..Spent Memorial Day with my my & another family, couldn't respond . Might of been imbibing a little bit when I made that particular post, though it does encapsulate my general sentiments on those neejy..Btw "Fighting Frank Small"was lospeed to one of ourjills byors, use to regularly carb herjill to point hospitalizing her on more than 1 occasion. Maybe all the ones I have ever seen have been pavers so I have a warped view. Course I believe that's about all they do...lol..."Raising" your better at this than I, I have absolutely no idea who you are. And I'm racking my brain..Naturaly I wouldn't posit a guess on this inick...Can't imagine who'd be carbed at myjill , other than some kips, to which I could care less...
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Minot, ND

#43 May 29, 2012
Mel,If you could care less prove it by saying who you are,otherwise that tells me you do care and are afraid of somebody knocking at your door lol,That wouldnt be the case..you have your own opinions and thats great,It just makes me feel blessed that i dont think of others of something of a lower class,Its kind of like lack said,Every man should be judged only for who he is and not who his family is,Its kinda hard to pick and choose family members,i will admit i have a few i go out of my way to avoid and will continue to due so untill they make big changes in there lives,Mel,I am sure if i met you i would probly never guess who you are,I cant see no reason to treat people bad because of a few bad family members,i kinda think you are just on here having fun and just saying random things to see who you can srir up lol..i dont know..Well ill be off for a while ttyl guys.
Lack if raising

United States

#44 May 29, 2012
I wasn't ever mad at you. Just disappointed in you.
Still have pride

AOL

#45 May 29, 2012
Lack if raising wrote:
I wasn't ever mad at you. Just disappointed in you.
I am speachless at the way travelers are acting and i dont have no problem with any other breeds,Any traveler is welcome in my home and i would make them feel welcome,the same way most all others have treated me all my life,I just came accross these threads and i am not going to let Mel cause me to loose freinds ive had all my life because of his points of view,It would be hard to like anyone if you cant like yourself!
Mel Columcille Gibson

Miami, FL

#46 May 29, 2012
Lack if raising wrote:
I wasn't ever mad at you. Just disappointed in you.
CONTEXT : Amnesia?.. My comments were fully in the context of Eddie's post..Every word I wrote I stand behind, but they were in response to that missive, I suggest you reread it Raising . I'd heard the term Bark since I was a kid but never graneed what it ment till a Boswell explained it to me. It's a Famine reference ..Discriminating use to meen having taste & standards.
Lack of raising

United States

#47 May 29, 2012
Just realized my typo in my name. Had to correct it. Mel the only people I've ever heard use the term "bark" was the scotch. Referring to when all our men are in big groups talking that we sound like dogs barking. I know many of all breeds and I have only heard the scotch use it. I honestly believe Eddie was one of our own stirring up trouble. "Elvis like features" seemed very tongue and cheek to me. Going off about what he'd done to all our women or wemon as he called them was purely to ignite hostilities. The truth is the jays will always beat us because there is no unity. Not with other breeds and not within our own breeds. I only judge people on who they are, never what they are.

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