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FCCJ now FSCJ increases tuition and salaries

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Westside conservative

Saint Augustine, FL

#1 Sep 14, 2010
http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2010-09-13...

Basically the story is that some administrators got as much as a 30% salary increase. Tuition was also increased 8% to pay for increases. So now college students get a little economics 101 firsthand. When the people running the show vote themselves a pay raise then the people paying for it will have to pay more.

I had been wondering why FCCJ became a state college. With UNF and other colleges around there really wasn't a need for them to go full time. Whats more anyone who went to FCCJ and then finished at UNF can tell you the quality is day and night as UNF was far superior in every category. This explains everything to me. The people at the top wanted bigger salaries and the only way to slide it in was for them to go to four years. Now they can compare their salaries to other four year institutions instead of two year ones. They had immediate justification for pay raises to "match similar positions at similar schools."

So students here is the lessons you can take from this. Higher salaries means higher costs. Change is not necessarily for your benefit but usually benefits those in power. There is more to be discerned from this story but these are two good base points.

Way to take care of the kids FSCJ.

“Just Add Obama ”

Since: Mar 08

Jacksonville Florida

#2 Sep 14, 2010
FSC is a Government School
The professors, staff and administration are Government employees

So What Is The Surprise
Taxpayers

Bradenton, FL

#3 Sep 14, 2010
That's the American way.

screw you as long as I get mine.

and, people are surprised that America has become a cesspool.
FSCJ says NO sex offender

Germany

#5 Sep 24, 2010
Well I found out some things has changed at the institution for higher learning.
Well the college at issue was a large community college that just changed to a state college obviously because of budget shortfalls due to this recession, well the new college wanted me to fill out a simple readmission form (in person) the nice lady from the school's president's office told me it was just to update their records. I get to the admissions office it's where it's busy because the rush to get enrolled in Fall term classes, I fill out the form and then I am asked to prove I am a resident of Florida my home state, I have my drivers license of course well a second form of id is needed the well because of my situation I could not readily get the documents, then I thought the form stated that "state or court documents evidencing legal ties to Florida", so I think ok cool I have to inform the college of my sex offender status upon registering for classes in accordance with state law.
I make my way to the library to use a computer to print out my sex offender information that was just updated last month from FDLE website, when I handed the young girl the sex offender printout she looked at me and said "I don't know about this", I said what do you mean ?, she said I will be right back I watched her go to 3 different offices when she came back she a had a older lady with her with a look on her face like "another damm sex offender" as we spoke to each other I explained that the FDLE printout was the best thing I could come up with right then to move things along, she was very blunt and said "this will not work sir", I tried to reply to explain she started cutting me off very rudely, at that time it dawned on me what was going on I was being told to kick rocks, the older lady left I stayed to try and find a way to take care of the issue when I asked the young girl while she had her head in her hands looking at my FDLE printout I said so what I just can go to school now ?, to my surprise she nodded yes.
I was mad but trying to be civil, I got the name of the actual lady that reviews the documents submitted that makes the final decision on whether you have proved you’re a valid resident and passed the readmission process (which is as I learned when I spoke to the lady was totally to her discretion), after speaking to her I realized what was going on the school was using the simple readmission process to evasively deny sex offenders access to the college.
Well as I was leaving to go to my car I heard a shout from behind me somebody calling my name I turned to see 2 security guys plus 1 sheriff's officer the security guy asked for my id I asked what was the problem ?, the security guy said oh nothing just checking your id 2 security guys were on one side and the sheriff officer was on the other I was blocked in, I handed the FDLE printout to the security guy and said is this why I am being detained ?, the guy said are you being detained ?, then he started asking how long I was in prison and what happened I told the guy it's all right there on the FDLE printout, I knew they were wanting to get loud in front of the sheriff officer that was not saying nothing so he would have probable cause to arrest me for disturbing the peace or what ever they could make up, well after several attempts to get my drivers license back I ask the head security guy "am I under arrest ?" the guy said should you be arrested ?, I said I am being detained right ?, the security guy said oh no you free to leave if you want, I said you got my drivers license and I'm blocked in, I knew if I got any more mouthy with them I would have been arrested, well as I was walking to my car all 3 of them followed me till I drove off. I called the lawyer later I hope he calls back.
Student

Bradenton, FL

#6 Sep 24, 2010
FSCJ is not an FSU or UF or JU or even a Tulsa Welding school.

High maintenance overpaid school teachers that can't get hired at a real college.
WTF

Höst, Germany

#7 Sep 27, 2010
What kind of place is this ?
LOL

Bradenton, FL

#8 Sep 27, 2010
WTF wrote:
What kind of place is this ?
A place of lower learning.....
LOL

United States

#9 Sep 27, 2010
LOL wrote:
<quoted text>
A place of lower learning.....
Kinda like Nova law school but better.
Dr_Evil

Jacksonville, FL

#11 Oct 15, 2010
This is comming from a guy who likes to take pictures of his pecker and send it to little kids on the internet. Isn't that right C. B.?
FSCJ_Deerwood_is _GREAT

Orange Park, FL

#12 Nov 15, 2010
these rambling idiots have no idea of what they are talking about. FSCJ is a great school and an opportunity to gain your associates and transfer to UNF, UF or FSU. You may also earn a bachelors degree from FSCJ. This thread was probably started by some jackass that couldn't get passed the remedial classes. And as for the sex offender, we don't want you at our school. There are a lot of young naive students at this school and its no place for predators like you. So F-U and everybody that looks like you.
Now suck it!
FSCJ_Deerwood_is _GREAT

Orange Park, FL

#13 Nov 15, 2010
American wrote:
This school has only a 30% success rate.
30% is by far a much higher success rate than you'll ever achieve...
Westside Conservative

Saint Augustine, FL

#14 Nov 15, 2010
FSCJ_Deerwood_is_GREAT wrote:
these rambling idiots have no idea of what they are talking about. FSCJ is a great school and an opportunity to gain your associates and transfer to UNF, UF or FSU. You may also earn a bachelors degree from FSCJ. This thread was probably started by some jackass that couldn't get passed the remedial classes. And as for the sex offender, we don't want you at our school. There are a lot of young naive students at this school and its no place for predators like you. So F-U and everybody that looks like you.
Now suck it!
Actually I graduated from FCCJ and then went on to UNF. There is no comparison as UNF is a far superior education experience. FCCJ is a continuation of high school for many. While there were some good educators there, they are the exception and not the rule. Not to mention the entire environment is radically different at the two schools.

My point is simply that I believe the main reason they went to being a four year school is so they could increase their salaries and not to meet the needs of the students/ community.

Hopefully you can learn to articulate yourself better while there and not come off sounding so childish in future communications.
Yep

Jacksonville Beach, FL

#15 Nov 15, 2010
OH yeah, UNF is always listed right there at the top in all surveys LOL. Westside, be serious.
DrPhil

Atlanta, GA

#16 Nov 15, 2010
LOL wrote:
<quoted text>
Kinda like Nova law school but better.
Hilariously true.
DrPhil

Atlanta, GA

#17 Nov 15, 2010
Westside Conservative wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually I graduated from FCCJ and then went on to UNF. There is no comparison as UNF is a far superior education experience. FCCJ is a continuation of high school for many. While there were some good educators there, they are the exception and not the rule. Not to mention the entire environment is radically different at the two schools.
My point is simply that I believe the main reason they went to being a four year school is so they could increase their salaries and not to meet the needs of the students/ community.
Hopefully you can learn to articulate yourself better while there and not come off sounding so childish in future communications.
What was your major?
Dr Phil is a moron

Jacksonville Beach, FL

#18 Nov 15, 2010
DrPhil wrote:
<quoted text>
What was your major?
What was your major? What was your major? What a moron.
DrPhil

United States

#19 Nov 16, 2010
Dr Phil is a moron wrote:
<quoted text>
What was your major? What was your major? What a moron.
Oh, I hit a nerve. Did you go to Nova? Is that the cause of your deep bitterness and inferiority? Maybe Sally Struthers sent you a diploma? Tell us. It might make you feel better.
WoW

Jacksonville, FL

#20 Dec 14, 2010
Westside Conservative wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually I graduated from FCCJ and then went on to UNF. There is no comparison as UNF is a far superior education experience. FCCJ is a continuation of high school for many. While there were some good educators there, they are the exception and not the rule. Not to mention the entire environment is radically different at the two schools.
My point is simply that I believe the main reason they went to being a four year school is so they could increase their salaries and not to meet the needs of the students/ community.
Hopefully you can learn to articulate yourself better while there and not come off sounding so childish in future communications.
FCCJ/FSCJ whatever the school has always fed off the courts and people on probation ordered to get a GED or just going to school because there are NO jobs in this town, I mean look at there computers still running XP, lol. UNF is a real school visit the library and see FSCJ is scaming people into going with enpty promises of employment if they get a degree, just lie on your resume it's just about the same in the reality of the job market, and another reality is the companies outside of a crappy retail job that's hiring don't want locals they want the chose from the mass of people moving from up north to Florida to find a cheaper place to live, what a joke the whole idea of FCCJ TRYING to succeed as a 4 year school under a different name.
Shakes

Lansdale, PA

#21 Dec 15, 2010
Coming from south campus studying theater entertainment technology and going on to work at UNF in their fine arts center's theater. South campus wins hands down. UNF is a great school but they spend money like there's no tomorow. The Lazzara theater is a beautiful multi-million dollar fine arts training center. It's mainstage is a 60ft wide proscenium space that seats over 1200. The stage space alone rivals aome of the largest in the area. A beautifully accomodated 'barn' of a space at a school that doesn't even have a dance or theater program...because that's a great way to spend students tuition. Or let's say we over budgeted our new student union by a few mil. so let's blow that money on GRANITE FLOORING. UNF a model for government spending. FSC has quite a few legitimate programs and are working on more. Right now JU has a BA/BFA theater and tech program but they can't keep students or give proffessors tenure. It's only a matter of time before JU's program goes under and FSC has no other choice but to turn their theater and tech degree program into what JU had. I mean they are aleady equipped to train entertainment proffesionals to succeed in this job market. I mean JU and UNF are fine institutions but in a stagehand town like jacksonville, UNF and JU have nothing to offer.
smart

Jacksonville, FL

#22 Apr 28, 2012
FSCJ says NO sex offender wrote:
Well I found out some things has changed at the institution for higher learning.
Well the college at issue was a large community college that just changed to a state college obviously because of budget shortfalls due to this recession, well the new college wanted me to fill out a simple readmission form (in person) the nice lady from the school's president's office told me it was just to update their records. I get to the admissions office it's where it's busy because the rush to get enrolled in Fall term classes, I fill out the form and then I am asked to prove I am a resident of Florida my home state, I have my drivers license of course well a second form of id is needed the well because of my situation I could not readily get the documents, then I thought the form stated that "state or court documents evidencing legal ties to Florida", so I think ok cool I have to inform the college of my sex offender status upon registering for classes in accordance with state law.
I make my way to the library to use a computer to print out my sex offender information that was just updated last month from FDLE website, when I handed the young girl the sex offender printout she looked at me and said "I don't know about this", I said what do you mean ?, she said I will be right back I watched her go to 3 different offices when she came back she a had a older lady with her with a look on her face like "another damm sex offender" as we spoke to each other I explained that the FDLE printout was the best thing I could come up with right then to move things along, she was very blunt and said "this will not work sir", I tried to reply to explain she started cutting me off very rudely, at that time it dawned on me what was going on I was being told to kick rocks, the older lady left I stayed to try and find a way to take care of the issue when I asked the young girl while she had her head in her hands looking at my FDLE printout I said so what I just can go to school now ?, to my surprise she nodded yes.
I was mad but trying to be civil, I got the name of the actual lady that reviews the documents submitted that makes the final decision on whether you have proved you’re a valid resident and passed the readmission process (which is as I learned when I spoke to the lady was totally to her discretion), after speaking to her I realized what was going on the school was using the simple readmission process to evasively deny sex offenders access to the college.
Well as I was leaving to go to my car I heard a shout from behind me somebody calling my name I turned to see 2 security guys plus 1 sheriff's officer the security guy asked for my id I asked what was the problem ?, the security guy said oh nothing just checking your id 2 security guys were on one side and the sheriff officer was on the other I was blocked in, I handed the FDLE printout to the security guy and said is this why I am being detained ?, the guy said are you being detained ?, then he started asking how long I was in prison and what happened I told the guy it's all right there on the FDLE printout, I knew they were wanting to get loud in front of the sheriff officer that was not saying nothing so he would have probable cause to arrest me for disturbing the peace or what ever they could make up, well after several attempts to get my drivers license back I ask the head security guy "am I under arrest ?" the guy said should you be arrested ?, I said I am being detained right ?, the security guy said oh no you free to leave if you want, I said you got my drivers license and I'm blocked in, I knew if I got any more mouthy with them I would have been arrested, well as I was walking to my car all 3 of them followed me till I drove off. I called the lawyer later I hope he calls back.
Yea
http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2012/04/27...

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