Are You Sick of Hearing about Civility?

Are You Sick of Hearing about Civility?

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“Just Add Obama ”

Since: Mar 08

Jacksonville Florida

#1 Jan 28, 2011
It would seam to me that the new in word in today’s America is “civility”. On the news, on the radio, especially Washington we hear every commentator and political hack calling for civility, we need civility. Well according to www.merriam –webster.com the word civility means, civilized conduct or a polite act or expression, is that what we need right now?

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/civ...
a : civilized conduct; especially : courtesy, politeness b : a polite act or expression

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Personally, I think it is a bunch of B.S. and IMHO, the ones who are shouting the loudest civility are the ones who act the least civil. America has had it time of “civility” just look at the last 15 years when it came to growing the government and spending money the government did not have, yeah “civility” has produced Trillions in Debt! I say screw “civility” pick a side on the position and act as if winning is the only thing.
Local

Bradenton, FL

#2 Jan 28, 2011
Mr Logic in Jax wrote:
It would seam to me that the new in word in today’s America is “civility”. On the news, on the radio, especially Washington we hear every commentator and political hack calling for civility, we need civility. Well according to www.merriam –webster.com the word civility means, civilized conduct or a polite act or expression, is that what we need right now?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/civ...
a : civilized conduct; especially : courtesy, politeness b : a polite act or expression
.
Personally, I think it is a bunch of B.S. and IMHO, the ones who are shouting the loudest civility are the ones who act the least civil. America has had it time of “civility” just look at the last 15 years when it came to growing the government and spending money the government did not have, yeah “civility” has produced Trillions in Debt! I say screw “civility” pick a side on the position and act as if winning is the only thing.
why don't you get off your lazy azz and do something...

whiny azzed little do nothing b!tchy boy........

Since: Jan 11

Jacksonville, Florida

#3 Jan 30, 2011
Mr Logic in Jax wrote:
It would seam to me that the new in word in today’s America is “civility”. On the news, on the radio, especially Washington we hear every commentator and political hack calling for civility, we need civility. Well according to www.merriam –webster.com the word civility means, civilized conduct or a polite act or expression, is that what we need right now?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/civ...
a : civilized conduct; especially : courtesy, politeness b : a polite act or expression
.
Personally, I think it is a bunch of B.S. and IMHO, the ones who are shouting the loudest civility are the ones who act the least civil. America has had it time of “civility” just look at the last 15 years when it came to growing the government and spending money the government did not have, yeah “civility” has produced Trillions in Debt! I say screw “civility” pick a side on the position and act as if winning is the only thing.
We should be grateful for this trend of discussing more civility. As for your anti-government tirade.....well...let's hope you are more civil than that Arizona fellow.
let me see

United States

#4 Jan 30, 2011
Mr Logic in Jax wrote:
It would seam to me that the new in word in today’s America is “civility”. On the news, on the radio, especially Washington we hear every commentator and political hack calling for civility, we need civility. Well according to www.merriam –webster.com the word civility means, civilized conduct or a polite act or expression, is that what we need right now?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/civ...
a : civilized conduct; especially : courtesy, politeness b : a polite act or expression
.
Personally, I think it is a bunch of B.S. and IMHO, the ones who are shouting the loudest civility are the ones who act the least civil. America has had it time of “civility” just look at the last 15 years when it came to growing the government and spending money the government did not have, yeah “civility” has produced Trillions in Debt! I say screw “civility” pick a side on the position and act as if winning is the only thing.
I'm sick of people complaining about the topic of civility. Sara Palin, Limbaugh...what is wrong with being civil? It is not an evil concept; it is just the idea that we can respectfully disagree rather than reducing ourselves to name-calling and imflammatory language. Extreme right wingers seem to equate civility with weakness, whereas a rational person recognizes that it in fact a mark of maturity.
Works both ways

Bradenton, FL

#5 Jan 30, 2011
let me see wrote:
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I'm sick of people complaining about the topic of civility. Sara Palin, Limbaugh...what is wrong with being civil? It is not an evil concept; it is just the idea that we can respectfully disagree rather than reducing ourselves to name-calling and imflammatory language. Extreme right wingers seem to equate civility with weakness, whereas a rational person recognizes that it in fact a mark of maturity.
Very immature of you to forget about extreme left wingers.......
let me see

United States

#6 Jan 30, 2011
Works both ways wrote:
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Very immature of you to forget about extreme left wingers.......
I don't know that "immature" is the right word, but you're partially right in most cases. I'm speaking from my experience, and that is that most ppl I've heard in the backlash against "civility" (the discussion of or possible need for) are what even the conservatives would consider "right wing extremists". After all, I don't know of many true conservatives who support Palin...or the pill-popping blowhard Limbaugh.

I'm not talking about the type of public dialogue that this new discussion of civility is attempting to address...I'm talking about the reflexive dismissal of the topic as "unconstitutional" or "unneccessary" or "silly" or some other equally inane response. LIJ is mostly to whom this is addressed btw....though I welcome your opinions of course.

Since: Jan 11

Jacksonville, Florida

#7 Jan 30, 2011
Works both ways wrote:
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Very immature of you to forget about extreme left wingers.......
Extreme left wingers? who? Where? This is The USA in 2011.
let me see

United States

#8 Jan 30, 2011
Ha and yes I realize I just called Rush Limbaugh a "pill-popping blowhard"...forgive me for being uncivil.
lol

Bradenton, FL

#9 Jan 30, 2011
Does this mean I can't call an uncivil person uncivil......

“Liberals are insane.”

Since: Jan 10

Jacksonville, FL

#10 Jan 30, 2011
I dont think I have cast any of my votes for the idea of being civil.

I'm pissed at the way our nation is headed so do the damn job you were elected to do and f@#k being civil.
noshellswill

Jacksonville, FL

#11 Jan 30, 2011
Mr Logic in Jax wrote:
It would seam to me that the new in word in today’s America is “civility”. On the news, on the radio, especially Washington we hear every commentator and political hack calling for civility, we need civility. Well according to www.merriam –webster.com the word civility means, civilized conduct or a polite act or expression, is that what we need right now?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/civ...
a : civilized conduct; especially : courtesy, politeness b : a polite act or expression
.
Personally, I think it is a bunch of B.S. and IMHO, the ones who are shouting the loudest civility are the ones who act the least civil. America has had it time of “civility” just look at the last 15 years when it came to growing the government and spending money the government did not have, yeah “civility” has produced Trillions in Debt! I say screw “civility” pick a side on the position and act as if winning is the only thing.
Yep. Well spoken.**Civility** is an earned privilege practiced among the working republican yeomanry.

OTOH.... DemoRat faaagboy parasites of GREEN, cosmopolitan and emotocentric tint have fully feckin-A earned the iron bootheel and a sweating bleeding cattle-drive to the frayed fringes of American culture where they can bleed-out nurturing each-others valueless fantasies.

“Just Add Obama ”

Since: Mar 08

Jacksonville Florida

#12 Jan 31, 2011
Balthezar wrote:
<quoted text>We should be grateful for this trend of discussing more civility. As for your anti-government tirade.....well...let's hope you are more civil than that Arizona fellow.
Not going to happen civility as defined by the media and some politicians these days is no behavior I wish to partake. If civility means agreeing with the Government Health care bill and having no harsh words about it or those to whom passed it, without reading it, then I say screw civility.

If civility means accepting the political opinions of people like Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik as fact and contouring his opinions with the Facts, then I say screw civility.

IMHO, we in this country need to practice polite honesty and stop with the political correct Bravo Sierra, get some thick skin and stop blaming others if ones feelings get hurt.

“Just Add Obama ”

Since: Mar 08

Jacksonville Florida

#13 Jan 31, 2011
let me see wrote:
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I'm sick of people complaining about the topic of civility. Sara Palin, Limbaugh...what is wrong with being civil? It is not an evil concept; it is just the idea that we can respectfully disagree rather than reducing ourselves to name-calling and inflammatory language. Extreme right wingers seem to equate civility with weakness, whereas a rational person recognizes that it in fact a mark of maturity.
There is nothing wrong with civility in its true form, IMHO. However, when used as a weapon of words with the goal to discredit not the idea that needs debating, but the one debating then it no longer serves as it was meant.

You mention that some “equate civility with weakness” and I would agree if that means to be civil means to sit down and shut up if you disagree. Have you ever listened to Ed Schultz on the radio, or Al Franken Show or Randi Rhodes when they were on Air America, using the definition as you have defined it they where just as “Uncivil” as the ones to whom you mentioned.

IMHO, many in this country lack the ability, knowledge, and understanding of the issues to debate and explain what they believe. For many there knowledge about an issue is based on a 30 second sound bite or a couple of minute news opinion pieces or the radio. Thus when up against someone who has a different opinion than they, debate is no longer an opinion, thus they get defense and attack the person instead of the idea.

“Just Add Obama ”

Since: Mar 08

Jacksonville Florida

#14 Jan 31, 2011
Balthezar wrote:
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Extreme left wingers? who? Where? This is The USA in 2011.
Are you seriously implying that the left has no extremist? If you use the same standard of judging that I am guessing you use to define the right wingers that you would find no left wingers? You do realize denial is not a river in Africa it is a freakin Ocean.
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noshellswill

Jacksonville, FL

#15 Jan 31, 2011
Mr Logic in Jax wrote:
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Are you seriously implying that the left has no extremist? If you use the same standard of judging that I am guessing you use to define the right wingers that you would find no left wingers? You do realize denial is not a river in Africa it is a freakin Ocean.
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Hehe ... cleverly stated ... how the truth must wound lib.com believers !

Since: Jan 08

Indio, CA

#16 Jan 31, 2011
Sinister Oculus wrote:
I dont think I have cast any of my votes for the idea of being civil.
I'm pissed at the way our nation is headed so do the damn job you were elected to do and f@#k being civil.
Well said. I'm sure the British told the angry Colonists to be more civil as well. This country was NOT founded on civility and it will NOT be taken back by civility!

“Just Add Obama ”

Since: Mar 08

Jacksonville Florida

#17 Jan 31, 2011
noshellswill wrote:
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You may be correct.

On a different (gay marriage) thread the tyrannous attitude of modern liberals has become overwhelmingly clear to me. They care not for what is logically sound, nor for the majority view, but see their own teary emotion-laden desires as justifying **any** intrusion of the Gub'mnt gun-barrel to support. Their feelings MUST BE SATISFIED! I have been honestly shocked at their tyrannous attitude as they are the polymorphous perverted expressions of an untutored child. And worse.

Feckin-A lil' Joe Stalin goose-steppers ... and if they call in the Gub'mnt gun-barrel for gay-marriage as it has been called in for Negro affirmative action, then there is **no limit** to their tyrannous behavior. They grasp at unending power and terror. I will not complete that thought ... as the logical terminus needs no prompting.
Ohhh! noshellswill choose your words more wisely, as believing in the mob rule mentality (“majority view”) is great unless you find yourself not in the mob. I do not want the government to pick the side of the minority nor the side of the majority put to sever as a mediator when needed and use as its guideline for right the “Rule of Law”. With that must be the protection of one’s life, liberty and their pursuit of happiness.

In a political science class many years ago, the debate rage on about why many of the founders despised full blow democracy. Our professor using the same example used many times before by others divided the class up with one side having all males and the other side having all the females and 2 males. The male side had a 5-vote majority. The professor stated that the Majority just vote to kill the 2 males and then rape the females and under majority view it would be legal. Point was made!
noshellswill

Jacksonville, FL

#18 Jan 31, 2011
Mr Logic in Jax wrote:
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Ohhh! noshellswill choose your words more wisely, as believing in the mob rule mentality (“majority view”) is great unless you find yourself not in the mob. I do not want the government to pick the side of the minority nor the side of the majority put to sever as a mediator when needed and use as its guideline for right the “Rule of Law”. With that must be the protection of one’s life, liberty and their pursuit of happiness.
In a political science class many years ago, the debate rage on about why many of the founders despised full blow democracy. Our professor using the same example used many times before by others divided the class up with one side having all males and the other side having all the females and 2 males. The male side had a 5-vote majority. The professor stated that the Majority just vote to kill the 2 males and then rape the females and under majority view it would be legal. Point was made!
Majority rule does **not** assure anything, except that the minority will not oppress the majority. That is the **only** certain virtue.

American republican law provides one extra protection ... namely that the majority may **vote** on only a limited number of explicitly defined issues. On those issues the gub'mnt gun-barrel may be employed on the side of majority/minority etc whatever the law says. On all other issues vigilante justice only may be applied.

Yes of-course ... the majority very well **may** decide to allow rape of all females ... at least more people do better than do worse, eh ? Of-course the females in that culture are likely to evolve into a very independent & frisky set of man-killaz. Yep sometimes Darwin gets it right !

The **rule** is simple. If you don't agree with the majority rule, then just leave. Argument from **special tooth-fairy assigned privileged ** is not allowed.

Since: Jan 11

Jacksonville, Florida

#19 Feb 1, 2011
Mr Logic in Jax wrote:
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Are you seriously implying that the left has no extremist? If you use the same standard of judging that I am guessing you use to define the right wingers that you would find no left wingers? You do realize denial is not a river in Africa it is a freakin Ocean.
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Okay Mr. Logic, I am sure they exist somewhere.

Since: Jan 11

Jacksonville, Florida

#20 Feb 1, 2011
noshellswill wrote:
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Majority rule does **not** assure anything, except that the minority will not oppress the majority. That is the **only** certain virtue.
American republican law provides one extra protection ... namely that the majority may **vote** on only a limited number of explicitly defined issues. On those issues the gub'mnt gun-barrel may be employed on the side of majority/minority etc whatever the law says. On all other issues vigilante justice only may be applied.
Yes of-course ... the majority very well **may** decide to allow rape of all females ... at least more people do better than do worse, eh ? Of-course the females in that culture are likely to evolve into a very independent & frisky set of man-killaz. Yep sometimes Darwin gets it right !
The **rule** is simple. If you don't agree with the majority rule, then just leave. Argument from **special tooth-fairy assigned privileged ** is not allowed.
The Founding Fathers were concerned about this. That's why we have a Bill Of Rights and Separation Of Powers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyranny_of_the_m...

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