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#2008 Jan 24, 2013
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.[a] 2 The earth was formless and empty, and darkness covered the deep waters. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters.
Anonymous

Jackson, TN

#2009 Jan 24, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> Show me the facts and I will take the time to read what you have. Le's start with the first one.
Alright, number one, like you said, Genesis 1 states that :

The Earth and Universe came into be at one time. If you read up of several topics of science, such as solar evolution, cosmology, as well as galaxy formation, you can deduce that the Earth and our star, the sun, were created long after the start of the universe.

You can calculate a stars lifespan and its age by a number of factors, such as temperature, size, color, and how much mass is being carried off by its solar wind.

Carbon dating has been used on pretty much every rock or meteorite that has ever been found on earth, including rocks from mars, venus, the moon, and other random comets.

All of this corresponds with the age of the sun, around 4-4.5 billion years ago.

A good place to start is read a little on star, solar system, and galactic evolution.

If you have any questions feel free to ask, I know this can be a hard topic to get your head around, but ill simplify anything the best i can to better help you understand what im trying to say.
Anonymous

Jackson, TN

#2010 Jan 24, 2013
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#2011 Jan 24, 2013
EvolutionMan wrote:
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Alright, number one, like you said, Genesis 1 states that :
The Earth and Universe came into be at one time. If you read up of several topics of science, such as solar evolution, cosmology, as well as galaxy formation, you can deduce that the Earth and our star, the sun, were created long after the start of the universe.
You can calculate a stars lifespan and its age by a number of factors, such as temperature, size, color, and how much mass is being carried off by its solar wind.
Carbon dating has been used on pretty much every rock or meteorite that has ever been found on earth, including rocks from mars, venus, the moon, and other random comets.
All of this corresponds with the age of the sun, around 4-4.5 billion years ago.
A good place to start is read a little on star, solar system, and galactic evolution.
If you have any questions feel free to ask, I know this can be a hard topic to get your head around, but ill simplify anything the best i can to better help you understand what im trying to say.
I will study this and get back with you but one thing that already disturbs me is your carbon dating is known to be completely unreliable, just as it was with Mt. St. Helen eruption when it said it was a million years old. God has complete wisdon, man has very limited wisdom. What's your feelings on why the bible exsists?
Anonymous

Jackson, TN

#2012 Jan 24, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> I will study this and get back with you but one thing that already disturbs me is your carbon dating is known to be completely unreliable, just as it was with Mt. St. Helen eruption when it said it was a million years old. God has complete wisdon, man has very limited wisdom. What's your feelings on why the bible exsists?
Why do you say carbon dating is unreliable? Yes you are correct when you say it doesnt give an EXACT date, but it does get pretty close. Do you know what the process of carbon dating entails?

And man does not have limited wisdom, we have all the wisdom. Our minds have given us everything we have, including medicine, eduation, technology.

And I believe the bible was ORINIALLY used to control those who didnt know any better. The catholic churches is one of the biggest dictators of all time, and it turns out they have complete control over the editing of the bible, and have since the dark ages. If you want a simple answer, I believe it is fear, not just the fear of hell, but the ridicule by friends and family. Say one of your best friends said he decided to be an atheist, now be real with me, how much emotional hardship is your friend gonna have to deal with by his peers(including you) for making that decision?

But to answer your question, I believe the bible has lasted due to fear of the church, fear of hell, lack of modern discovery, as well as the new testament and the hope it brings to the small minded.

Because the story of Jesus is much easier to understand than Cosmology, Astronomy, and Quantum Mechanics.
EvolutionMan

Jackson, TN

#2013 Jan 24, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> I will study this and get back with you but one thing that already disturbs me is your carbon dating is known to be completely unreliable, just as it was with Mt. St. Helen eruption when it said it was a million years old. God has complete wisdon, man has very limited wisdom. What's your feelings on why the bible exsists?
And can you explain further about your quote on My. St. Helens? I'm not sure of the exact age of it but I do know its way older than 10,000 years.
EvolutionMan

Jackson, TN

#2014 Jan 24, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> I will study this and get back with you but one thing that already disturbs me is your carbon dating is known to be completely unreliable, just as it was with Mt. St. Helen eruption when it said it was a million years old. God has complete wisdon, man has very limited wisdom. What's your feelings on why the bible exsists?
One more thing.

I really don't hate the bible, I promise you. I have 3 in my house right now, including the one given to me by my church on the day of my baptism. I believe that if you took the moral teaching of the new testament and lived by them then you would have a very enjoyable life, while still being sincere and kind to others. But I know what experiement and result tell me.

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#2015 Jan 25, 2013
EvolutionMan wrote:
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Why do you say carbon dating is unreliable? Yes you are correct when you say it doesnt give an EXACT date, but it does get pretty close. Do you know what the process of carbon dating entails?
And man does not have limited wisdom, we have all the wisdom. Our minds have given us everything we have, including medicine, eduation, technology.
And I believe the bible was ORINIALLY used to control those who didnt know any better. The catholic churches is one of the biggest dictators of all time, and it turns out they have complete control over the editing of the bible, and have since the dark ages. If you want a simple answer, I believe it is fear, not just the fear of hell, but the ridicule by friends and family. Say one of your best friends said he decided to be an atheist, now be real with me, how much emotional hardship is your friend gonna have to deal with by his peers(including you) for making that decision?
But to answer your question, I believe the bible has lasted due to fear of the church, fear of hell, lack of modern discovery, as well as the new testament and the hope it brings to the small minded.
Because the story of Jesus is much easier to understand than Cosmology, Astronomy, and Quantum Mechanics.
Small minded people you say, throughout time people of all levels of intellect believe te bible, even today people of all levels of intellect from presidents to dich diggers believe on the bible. The bible is accurate and tr from the beginning to the end. The bible wa writen by men who were guided to put what God waned us to know ad it's filled with wisdom throughout, it's so beautifully writttttten and explains all that man needs to know. Only God could've written such a book full of knowledge and wisdom beyond what man could've writen, this is indeed a book writen by God.You say it's a book to cause fear which makes no sense as it tells you the love of God and what he wants to give us if we choose to obey him and become a Christian. Tell me something you feel is incorrect about the bible. The bible has been around longer than any science book and man continues to buy the bible and worship God, because the bible can withstand anything people throw at it. God tells us that some people will not believe and he tells us what to expect in the fuure . No book can even come close to being loved more than the bible and no it wasn't to make people fear in the way you say, it's to give us love and confidence in life and in death. It saddens me to think that some prefer not to believe and to think that life is simply a result of a big bang of atoms and that when you die that's it, that is so terrible to think that's all life consists of. Life can only been created by a superior being who decided to create us to share in his love for eternity. Man has created many wonderful machines and medicine has come along way. There is no way that we can know something to be a million years old because life only started less than 10,000 years ago. Carbon dating can't measure accurately a million years ago because there's nothing that's a million years old How do you know something to be a million years old when no one has been around that long, so to say you have ways to measure time, it's simply science fiction. You can measure things thousands of years because people have been around that long. Why would these small minded people put so much information in the bible about God creaing the heavens and the earh when this has nothibng to do with causing people to fear. The bible has so much information in it, such as land, people and information of the future, this has nothing to do with causing fear. The accuracy of the bible is a fact that can be proved..

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#2016 Jan 25, 2013
My keys are sticking so You'll probably see words not completed.
EvolutionMan

Jackson, TN

#2017 Jan 25, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> Small minded people you say, throughout time people of all levels of intellect believe te bible, even today people of all levels of intellect from presidents to dich diggers believe on the bible. The bible is accurate and tr from the beginning to the end. The bible wa writen by men who were guided to put what God waned us to know ad it's filled with wisdom throughout, it's so beautifully writttttten and explains all that man needs to know. Only God could've written such a book full of knowledge and wisdom beyond what man could've writen, this is indeed a book writen by God.You say it's a book to cause fear which makes no sense as it tells you the love of God and what he wants to give us if we choose to obey him and become a Christian. Tell me something you feel is incorrect about the bible. The bible has been around longer than any science book and man continues to buy the bible and worship God, because the bible can withstand anything people throw at it. God tells us that some people will not believe and he tells us what to expect in the fuure . No book can even come close to being loved more than the bible and no it wasn't to make people fear in the way you say, it's to give us love and confidence in life and in death. It saddens me to think that some prefer not to believe and to think that life is simply a result of a big bang of atoms and that when you die that's it, that is so terrible to think that's all life consists of. Life can only been created by a superior being who decided to create us to share in his love for eternity. Man has created many wonderful machines and medicine has come along way. There is no way that we can know something to be a million years old because life only started less than 10,000 years ago. Carbon dating can't measure accurately a million years ago because there's nothing that's a million years old How do you know something to be a million years old when no one has been around that long, so to say you have ways to measure time, it's simply science fiction. You can measure things thousands of years because people have been around that long. Why would these small minded people put so much information in the bible about God creaing the heavens and the earh when this has nothibng to do with causing people to fear. The bible has so much information in it, such as land, people and information of the future, this has nothing to do with causing fear. The accuracy of the bible is a fact that can be proved..
You are still ignorant to everything I'm telling you.

The good thing about science is that its true whether you believe it or not.

And if you disagree with that, I'm sorry, that's just the way the world works.
Auntie Theist

Tucker, GA

#2019 Jan 25, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> Homosexuality is a sin and destroys life in the way it was suppose to be according to the bible. God's way is the way we are to live.Ihave love for those who are gay, but I don't condone it and I will do all that I can against it, just like the gay people do all they can to be accepted. God had ordained marriage between a man and a woman.
Do you eat bacon and shrimp?
Auntie Theist

Tucker, GA

#2020 Jan 25, 2013
lowboy wrote:
<quoted text>
lets leave god and jesus out of my answer. the biggest problem is that it could mean the end of the human race. a lot of theory on here but lets theorize that the day comes when all men like all men and all women like all women. until the women can fertilize with out the male and until- get ready it is gross - the male can give birth to a child via the anus we have a problem.
secondly one of my fears is the open aggressivness of some of the males. they wish to do anybody which isnt to diffrent than the heterosexual male of today toward women.
lets face males tend to wander. it is womans role to civilize them and domesticate them.
i lean toward a social order that gives them equal rights and if they wish to co-habitat with one of their own so be it. but lets be honest it is not the way nature intended for us to reproduce our own and with all the gay pride parades etc it is there in your face attitude i dont like.
marriage is, among other things, the way we reproduce. they can never be equal in that respect so why bother. call it what it is ,civil unions, partner for life, or going back to the 1960s shacking up .
If that were true there would be no evolutionary advantage to being gay and natural selection would have taken care of it just as happened with the neanderthals.
Auntie Theist

Tucker, GA

#2021 Jan 25, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.[a] 2 The earth was formless and empty, and darkness covered the deep waters. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters.
Is that an eyewitness account that will stand up in court?
Auntie Theist

Tucker, GA

#2022 Jan 25, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> Small minded people you say, throughout time people of all levels of intellect believe te bible, even today people of all levels of intellect from presidents to dich diggers believe on the bible. The bible is accurate and tr from the beginning to the end. The bible wa writen by men who were guided to put what God waned us to know ad it's filled with wisdom throughout, it's so beautifully writttttten and explains all that man needs to know. Only God could've written such a book full of knowledge and wisdom beyond what man could've writen, this is indeed a book writen by God.You say it's a book to cause fear which makes no sense as it tells you the love of God and what he wants to give us if we choose to obey him and become a Christian. Tell me something you feel is incorrect about the bible. The bible has been around longer than any science book and man continues to buy the bible and worship God, because the bible can withstand anything people throw at it. God tells us that some people will not believe and he tells us what to expect in the fuure . No book can even come close to being loved more than the bible and no it wasn't to make people fear in the way you say, it's to give us love and confidence in life and in death. It saddens me to think that some prefer not to believe and to think that life is simply a result of a big bang of atoms and that when you die that's it, that is so terrible to think that's all life consists of. Life can only been created by a superior being who decided to create us to share in his love for eternity. Man has created many wonderful machines and medicine has come along way. There is no way that we can know something to be a million years old because life only started less than 10,000 years ago. Carbon dating can't measure accurately a million years ago because there's nothing that's a million years old How do you know something to be a million years old when no one has been around that long, so to say you have ways to measure time, it's simply science fiction. You can measure things thousands of years because people have been around that long. Why would these small minded people put so much information in the bible about God creaing the heavens and the earh when this has nothibng to do with causing people to fear. The bible has so much information in it, such as land, people and information of the future, this has nothing to do with causing fear. The accuracy of the bible is a fact that can be proved..
The bible is no more accurate than the Koran or the Book of Mormon - if it is, prove it. Almost as many people on the planet believe in the veracity of the Koran and the Book of Mormon (not counting the Upanishads etc.)
Auntie Theist

Tucker, GA

#2023 Jan 25, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
My keys are sticking so You'll probably see words not completed.
Pray for their completion (Matthew.)

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#2024 Jan 25, 2013
Auntie Theist wrote:
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Do you eat bacon and shrimp?
Both.

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#2025 Jan 25, 2013
Auntie Theist wrote:
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The bible is no more accurate than the Koran or the Book of Mormon - if it is, prove it. Almost as many people on the planet believe in the veracity of the Koran and the Book of Mormon (not counting the Upanishads etc.)
I don't get how you can say that because it is accurate. If a person reads the bible they will come out knowing God's will, but man has added and taken away from the bible to make worshipping their way instead of God's way. If I was to ask you what this verse means, He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved, what would this verse be telling you? This verse has only one meaning, but yet people add to it or delete it and don't do it because they prefer to do things their way instead of God's way and this is why their's so many false religions in the world and only one that goes by the bible, that being the CoC.

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#2026 Jan 25, 2013
Auntie Theist wrote:
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Pray for their completion (Matthew.)
Do you think some religious organizations believe miracles exsist today?

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#2027 Jan 25, 2013
Auntie Theist wrote:
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Is that an eyewitness account that will stand up in court?
Yes, after all the court system believes in God.
Auntie Theist

Tucker, GA

#2028 Jan 25, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> Both.
Then why do you choose one part of Leviticus to obey and ignore the rest?

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