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anon

Gadsden, TN

#799 Dec 6, 2012
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> What aids did he use?
lol!!! oh im sorry i guess he used his teeth to chew the wood down, and his head to hammer in his own bones to hold it together. no chance that he used a saw, hammer and nails or a type of rope for the masts....nooooooo
anon

Gadsden, TN

#800 Dec 6, 2012
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> Anon I believe that the reason God wanted only singing is because you can't get any closer to a spiritual connection than that of his creation singing to him with nothing but there spirit and nothing interferring with that. When I talk of instruments I am only talking about the use of instruments in worship only. As you say he heard music, but this has nothing to do with the use of nstruments in worship.
well this is one MAJOR story about how a sinner is let back into the fold after going astray, so if music was so abhorrent to God then i dont think he would have used it as an example, or he would have at least left that part out

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#801 Dec 7, 2012
anon wrote:
<quoted text>lol!!! oh im sorry i guess he used his teeth to chew the wood down, and his head to hammer in his own bones to hold it together. no chance that he used a saw, hammer and nails or a type of rope for the masts....nooooooo
What's wrong with that, the only thing God said was to use gopher wood, how did you think he was going to buid it by saying abra cadabr, your ignorance is shameful as this is a simple question and you are so concern on him using his tools you make a mockery out of common sense.

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#802 Dec 7, 2012
anon wrote:
<quoted text>well this is one MAJOR story about how a sinner is let back into the fold after going astray, so if music was so abhorrent to God then i dont think he would have used it as an example, or he would have at least left that part out
Listen what God wants in the old testament is one thing, but you're trying to make it seem like God would approve of it in the new testament and it's just not there, again here's what he says to use, Ephesian 5:19, Colossian 3:16. Show me in the new testament where he authorizes instruments in worship. I like instruments to but not in worship, for the simple fact he doesn't authorize it.

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#803 Dec 7, 2012
“Shout joyfully to the LORD, all the earth. Serve the LORD with gladness; Come before Him with joyful singing”(Psa. 100:1-2).
•“The singers sang, with Jezrahiah their leader, and on that day they offered great sacrifices and rejoiced because God had given them great joy, even the women and children rejoiced, so that the joy of Jerusalem was heard from afar”(Neh. 12:42-43).
•“They will come and shout for joy on the height of Zion, and they will be radiant over the bounty of the LORD”(Jer. 31:12).
•“Shout for joy, O daughter of Zion! Shout in triumph, O Israel! Rejoice and exult with all your heart, O daughter of Jerusalem!”( Zeph. 3:14).
•“Shout joyfully to God, all the earth; Sing the glory of His name; Make His praise glorious”(Psa. 66:1-2).
•“Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion! Shout in triumph, O daughter of Jerusalem! Behold, your king is coming to you”(Zech. 9:9).
•“I heard something like a loud voice of a great multitude in heaven, saying,`Hallelujah! Salvation and glory and power belong to our God;….Then I heard something like the voice of a great multitude and like the sound of many waters and like the sound of mighty peals of thunder, saying,“Hallelujah! For the Lord our God, the Almighty, reigns”(Rev. 19:1, 6).

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#804 Dec 7, 2012
We learn from these OT examples (Rom 15:4) of worship that spiritual intensity is expressed with loud enthusiasm for the greatness and glory of God.“Bless the LORD, O my soul, and all that is within me, bless His holy name”(Psa. 103:1).“All..within me” includes our emotional energy. Enthusiasm literally means “God within.” Scriptural worship is both doctrinally accurate in truth and emotionally intense in spirit. The Lord abhors service to Him that is “dead”(Rev. 3:1) or “lukewarm”(Rev 3:16).

“Blessed are you when men hate you, and ostracize you, and insult you, and scorn your name as evil, for the sake of the Son of Man. Be glad in that day and leap for joy, for behold, your reward is great in heaven”(Lk 6:22-23a). To “leap for joy” conveys the natural spiritual excitement in appreciating and expressing exuberant gratitude to the Lord for the privilege of suffering for the heavenly blessings. We must sing “with grace (gratitude) in your hearts unto the Lord”(Col. 3:16b). God designed such enthusiasm to be mutually encouraging as we “speak to one another in psalms, hymns and spiritual songs”(Col. 3:16a).

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#805 Dec 7, 2012
God Designed Musical Singing to Be Beautifully Edifying in the Church

While the right form and message are essential, this limited mindset denies the God-ordained aesthetics of beautiful, uplifting singing to build up His church. If all that matters are the words, then why not just pray! Prayer is not a substitute for the musical exercise of singing! God ordained a musical, aesthetic component in our song service for our spiritual edification!“Music” is defined from the New Oxford American Dictionary as “the science and art of incorporating…sounds to produce beauty of form, harmony, and expression of emotion.” Random House Dictionary defines music as “pleasing, harmonious sounds.” In addition, music has melody, pitch, rhythm, tempo and usually harmony. If these musical elements don’t matter, as some seem to think, just try letting everyone sing at their own tempo and pitch and you’ll see how disconcerting and grating such incompetent singing is! I realize that a few are tone-deaf or cannot sing well, but this the exception, not the rule. Most of us can improve the musical quality of our singing to edify one another, while giving due emphasis on the thoughts expressed to God.

“Praise the LORD! For it is good to sing praises to our God; For it is pleasant, and praise is beautiful”(Psa. 147:1; cf. 33:1). Scriptural singing, as an expression of “joy”(Psa. 33:1), is uplifting and “beautiful”(Heb. na&#770;’veh,“comely, attractive”). With scriptural words, God gave us the spiritual exercise of great singing to have aesthetic beauty to elevate our spirits. Such spiritual singing is designed by God to be “pleasant”(Heb. na&#770;&#8219;&#3 05;&#770;ym,“delightful, sweet, lovely, agreeable, physically beautiful”).

The fervency of proper worship in song displays the spiritual energy of our souls, how real and great God is to us, how vital our faith is, and how grateful we are to our great God for the privilege to come into His transforming, glorious throne-room at the center of the universe (Rev. 4).“Rejoice in the LORD, O you righteous! For praise from the upright is beautiful”(Psa. 33:1). We should do this congregationally (Eph. 5:19) as well as daily as individuals (Ja. 5:13).

By W. Frank Walton
Jesus

United States

#806 Dec 7, 2012
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> What's wrong with that, the only thing God said was to use gopher wood, how did you think he was going to buid it by saying abra cadabr, your ignorance is shameful as this is a simple question and you are so concern on him using his tools you make a mockery out of common sense.
Do you realize you are making a mockery of everything I stand for?

Depart from me, I know you not.

Since: Jul 10

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#807 Dec 7, 2012
anon wrote:
<quoted text>he says singing and making melody...get it right...stop picking just what you want to hear
Anon please read post 803, 804 and 805 and tell me what you think of the information on singing..
Jesus

United States

#808 Dec 7, 2012
Working for the Lord wrote:
We learn from these OT examples (Rom 15:4) of worship that spiritual intensity is expressed with loud enthusiasm for the greatness and glory of God.“Bless the LORD, O my soul, and all that is within me, bless His holy name”(Psa. 103:1).“All..within me” includes our emotional energy. Enthusiasm literally means “God within.” Scriptural worship is both doctrinally accurate in truth and emotionally intense in spirit. The Lord abhors service to Him that is “dead”(Rev. 3:1) or “lukewarm”(Rev 3:16).
“Blessed are you when men hate you, and ostracize you, and insult you, and scorn your name as evil, for the sake of the Son of Man. Be glad in that day and leap for joy, for behold, your reward is great in heaven”(Lk 6:22-23a). To “leap for joy” conveys the natural spiritual excitement in appreciating and expressing exuberant gratitude to the Lord for the privilege of suffering for the heavenly blessings. We must sing “with grace (gratitude) in your hearts unto the Lord”(Col. 3:16b). God designed such enthusiasm to be mutually encouraging as we “speak to one another in psalms, hymns and spiritual songs”(Col. 3:16a).
You misuse my words to mankind.

Get behind me satan.
Jesus

United States

#809 Dec 7, 2012
My sacrifice should not be trivalized by petty disagreements.

You are no longer Working for The Lord, you are fired.
Satan

United States

#810 Dec 7, 2012
Working for the lord...you are doing a fantastic job. Keep it up!
Your an idiot

United States

#812 Dec 7, 2012
According to Reason wrote:
OK, this what happened in a nutshell according to the Christian mythology.
God created man and women with original sin.
God impregnated a woman with himself so that he could be born.
God then had himself killed as a sacrifice to himself.
All in-order to to save you from the sin to which he originally condemned you.
...YEA! Makes perfect sense.
God did not create man with original sin, he did however create man with freewill and using that freewill man was tempted to sin and did.

Christ came into this world through birth, therefore he was both fully God and fully man.(Something your "enlightend" mind probably wont understand).

Christ offered himself as a sacrifice, a way for man to be justified and released from the burden and separation of sin.(again, something your "enlightned" mind wont understand).

TO...save us from the mess we made of Gods perfect creation.(yet again, something your "enlightned" mind wont understand).

Now just judging your comments, I am guessing that YOU actually did evolve from a lower form of primate. We would all be better off if you would devolve and go back to swinging from trees with all the other "enlightned" minds claiming to have scientific proof.

Let me just say something about your "scientific" proof. For something to be scientifically proven you have to be able to produce the subject and then replicate it as proof. Otherwise it is just a hypothesis.

To my knowledge, not one "enlightned" mind has been able to replicate life.

Since: Jul 10

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#813 Dec 7, 2012
Your an idiot wrote:
<quoted text>
God did not create man with original sin, he did however create man with freewill and using that freewill man was tempted to sin and did.
Christ came into this world through birth, therefore he was both fully God and fully man.(Something your "enlightend" mind probably wont understand).
Christ offered himself as a sacrifice, a way for man to be justified and released from the burden and separation of sin.(again, something your "enlightned" mind wont understand).
TO...save us from the mess we made of Gods perfect creation.(yet again, something your "enlightned" mind wont understand).
Now just judging your comments, I am guessing that YOU actually did evolve from a lower form of primate. We would all be better off if you would devolve and go back to swinging from trees with all the other "enlightned" minds claiming to have scientific proof.
Let me just say something about your "scientific" proof. For something to be scientifically proven you have to be able to produce the subject and then replicate it as proof. Otherwise it is just a hypothesis.
To my knowledge, not one "enlightned" mind has been able to replicate life.
Very well said.
Cyclist

Lexington, TN

#816 Dec 7, 2012
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> Very well said.
Thank you.
anon

Gadsden, TN

#817 Dec 7, 2012
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> What's wrong with that, the only thing God said was to use gopher wood, how did you think he was going to buid it by saying abra cadabr, your ignorance is shameful as this is a simple question and you are so concern on him using his tools you make a mockery out of common sense.
oh my goodness...i did not know you didnt know the diff between sarcasm and not. sorry...YOU asked what tools he used, so i guess it was your ignorance showing through...and sense we all know he used tools to help him do God's bidding, even though he did not specify it, it was fine with God. SO if you use tools during singing how is that any diff? Following his directions is of utmost importance in any aspect.
Cyclist

Lexington, TN

#818 Dec 7, 2012
According to Reason wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong, if God is omnipotent (knowing everything) then it follows that God made man with the knowledge that freewill would eventually mean man would disobey (sin). Assuming God had a choice, he choose to create man with freewill, therefore he is ultimately responsible for sin entering the world. QED
If you drop a brick from head height directly above your toe, which is responsible for your broken tow after it fell? The BRICK behaving like you knew it would before hand or YOU?
According to the myth this also means, logically, that Satan is more powerful than God.
1. Because of original sin you will go to hell.(Rom 3:23)
2. However God desires that all men be saved.(2 Peter 3:9)
3. In effort to save many from death and hell God spent several thousand years developing a plan.
4. This plan involved a miraculous birth, 33 year life, and horrific death of His Son.(John 3:16)
5. But this plan of salvation only provides salvation for a lucky fraction of all mankind who hear and believe.(Luke 13:23-28)
6. All of this in an attempt to undo what Satan accomplished with a single conversation…and it isn’t working.(Gen 3:1-4)
Therefore Christians like you must believe one of two things, that Satan is either much more powerful or much more intelligent than God.
As far as your claim that god was born of a virgin being both god and man, he apparently had plenty of company. Krishna was born of the virgin Devaki. Savior Dionysus was born of the virgin Semele. Buddha too was born of a virgin. The old Teutonic goddess Hertha was a virgin impregnated by the heavenly Spirit and bore a son. Scandinavian Frigga was impregnated by the All-Father Odin and bore Balder, the healer and savior of mankind. Seems like Jesus had a whole litter of half-brothers.
Christ offered himself as a sacrifice? Is it not written that he came back from the dead after a mere three days? What exactly was lost or given up in this so-called sacrifice? Oh, that’s right nothing. If anything Jesus got to fly his ass back into heaven, sounds like a pretty big reward for being dead in a cave for three days.
Why does every fundamentalist try and throw the fact that things evolve into an argument about god? Please tell me what evolutionary theory has to do with supporting your claim that a Jewish zombie rose from the dead and why I should waste time attempting to correct your obvious misunderstanding of a scientific theory.
Golly you is smart.

Gee, I guess it does make more sense that everything we see around us was created quite by accident and not by an intelligent creator.

Evolutionary theory is the backbone of atheistic belief so pardon me for using one of your tenants to make my point.

Romans 3:23 has nothing to do with original sin, I would have thought an enlightened soul such as yourself would have gotten that.

Luke 13:23ff salvation is open to any and all who would accept the gift, unfortunately many will not accept the gift because they are enlightened and can save themselves.

2 Peter 3:9 proves my above point that God wishes all would accept the gift of salvation.

John 3:16 is self explanatory, God loves his creation enough to sacrifice his son for you, even if you choose not to accept it.

As for satan being more powerful or intelligent than God...God created satan with free will just as he created man with free will. Make no mistake, satan is powerful, but he is not God.

As for the "scientific creation" DNA, interesting how the "scientist" had to first start with a living organism for their experiment.

I could care less if you believe, that is your choice and you have to justify that in your own mind.
anon

Gadsden, TN

#820 Dec 7, 2012
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> Anon please read post 803, 804 and 805 and tell me what you think of the information on singing..
ive already read it and talked with you ab it but YOU refuse to read it yourself without throwing in hidden meanings so im done with this conversation...you are just a radical who should not even be degrading the COC with your presence. it is ppl like you who run off ppl who really need to be in church. you forget that the "church" is a place for sinners, not saints. it is a place to worship and ask for forgiveness and lift up your brother/sister in christ. LOVE is Jesus's covenant not arguing with your brother over singing in the church. and def not judging your brother in christ. if they have been saved then they know the way back to christ, it is between themself and God. if the person does not know christ THEN it is your job to let them know and lead them in the right direction. but when you mix these two up thinking you can judge your fellow christian (no matter what denomination, because they read the same bible as you) thats where you cross a line...you dont have to explain yourself to me anymore...hold your excuses for God because thats the only one who its going to really matter to.
Cyclist

Lexington, TN

#821 Dec 7, 2012
According to Reason wrote:
Yes Cyclist, I agree with the Lord's slave boy that you are excellent at preaching dogma. Does not mean it makes any sense whatsoever or more importantly, that has any basis in fact, but at least your good at preaching it.
And likewise, what you say in your posts doesn't make sense and can't be proven as fact.

That is what is called faith.

My faith is in God.

Your faith is in you.
anon

Gadsden, TN

#822 Dec 7, 2012
the athiests have come out to play so im done with this post...i dont know why they come to a site to throw in their word vomit where its not wanted...OK WE KNOW YOU DONT BELIEVE! this WAS a discussion between fellow christians NOT A DEBATE ON IF CHRISTIANITY IS REAL...make your own forum up and go argue amongst yourselves about it...to the rest of you have a nice night :) oh and a little hint, if you just ignore all their comments and never reply to them they will eventually move on like the quakers they are!

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