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#5131 Oct 22, 2013
Auntie Theist wrote:
Hey, I don't need to go to church to get saved - all upright bipeds are saved:
28:18 Whoso walketh uprightly shall be saved: Proverbs.
You really have lost your mind, or I should say , soul.
Auntie Theist

Toledo, OH

#5132 Oct 22, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> You really have lost your mind, or I should say , soul.
Are you saying that your bible is wrong? I see quotes from Proverbs all the time here. I'm upright, so I'm saved - right (except when sleeping.)

Perhaps you are the one who will not be saved:
If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.-- James 1:26
Auntie Theist

United States

#5133 Oct 30, 2013
ANTI ATHEIST

Oakland, TN

#5134 Oct 30, 2013
Auntie Theist wrote:
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I ask you because I can find no evidence for who wrote any of the gospels. I was hoping you could supply some.
prhaps we can turn that question around. if you can find no evidence of who wrote any of the gospels that is nothing but your opinion. show us the evidence that they were not wriiten by the authors of each.

obviously some body wrote them
Auntie Theist

United States

#5135 Oct 30, 2013
ANTI ATHEIST wrote:
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prhaps we can turn that question around. if you can find no evidence of who wrote any of the gospels that is nothing but your opinion. show us the evidence that they were not wriiten by the authors of each.
obviously some body wrote them
If there is no evidence, it is not an opinion, it is a fact.
Yes, perhaps women wrote them pseudonymously.
If we don't know the author (or authoress) how can we accept the veracity of what is written?

I show you the evidence that they were not written by their namesakes although a good Christian would know it. The evidence is in the names of the gospels. "According to" - end of evidence.
Auntie Theist

Jackson, TN

#5136 Oct 31, 2013
Auntie Theist wrote:
<quoted text>
If there is no evidence, it is not an opinion, it is a fact.
Yes, perhaps women wrote them pseudonymously.
If we don't know the author (or authoress) how can we accept the veracity of what is written?
I show you the evidence that they were not written by their namesakes although a good Christian would know it. The evidence is in the names of the gospels. "According to" - end of evidence.
It's really the moral issues that trouble me.
Auntie Theist

Jackson, TN

#5137 Oct 31, 2013
ANTI ATHEIST wrote:
<quoted text>
prhaps we can turn that question around. if you can find no evidence of who wrote any of the gospels that is nothing but your opinion. show us the evidence that they were not wriiten by the authors of each.
obviously some body wrote them
I do not look very hard though.

Since: Jul 10

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#5138 Nov 4, 2013
Here are nearly a dozen natural phenomena which conflict with the evolutionary idea that the universe is billions of years old. The numbers I list below in bold print (often millions of years) are maximum possible ages set by each process, not the actual ages. The numbers in italics are the ages required by evolutionary theory for each item. The point is that the maximum possible ages are always much less that the required evolutionary ages, while the biblical age (6,000-10,000 years) always fits comfortably within the maximum possible ages. Thus the following items are evidence against the evolutionary time-scale and for the biblical time-scale.

Much more young-world evidence exists, but I have chosen these items for brevity and simplicity. Some of the items on this list can be reconciled with an old universe only by making a series of improbable and unproven assumptions; others can fit in only with a young universe. The list starts with distant astronomic phenomena and works its way down to Earth, ending with everyday facts.

1. Comets disintegrate too quickly.

2. Not enough mud on the sea floor.

3. Not enough sodium in the sea.

4. Earth's magnetic field is decaying too fast.

5. Many strata are too tightly bent.

6. Injected sandstone shortens geologic 'ages'.

7. Fossil radioactivity shortens geologic 'ages' to a few years.

8. Helium in the wrong places.

9. Not enough Stone Age skeletons.

10. Agriculture is too recent.

11. History is too short.

According to evolutionists, Stone Age man existed for 100,000 years before beginning to make written records about 4,000-5,000 years ago. Prehistoric man built megalithic monuments, made beautiful cave paintings, and kept records of lunar phases.(23) Why would he wait a thousand centuries before using the same skills to record history? The biblical time-scale is much more likely.(22)

http://christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c012.ht ...
Auntie Theist

United States

#5139 Nov 4, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
Here are nearly a dozen natural phenomena which conflict with the evolutionary idea that the universe is billions of years old. The numbers I list below in bold print (often millions of years) are maximum possible ages set by each process, not the actual ages. The numbers in italics are the ages required by evolutionary theory for each item. The point is that the maximum possible ages are always much less that the required evolutionary ages, while the biblical age (6,000-10,000 years) always fits comfortably within the maximum possible ages. Thus the following items are evidence against the evolutionary time-scale and for the biblical time-scale.
Much more young-world evidence exists, but I have chosen these items for brevity and simplicity. Some of the items on this list can be reconciled with an old universe only by making a series of improbable and unproven assumptions; others can fit in only with a young universe. The list starts with distant astronomic phenomena and works its way down to Earth, ending with everyday facts.
1. Comets disintegrate too quickly.
2. Not enough mud on the sea floor.
3. Not enough sodium in the sea.
4. Earth's magnetic field is decaying too fast.
5. Many strata are too tightly bent.
6. Injected sandstone shortens geologic 'ages'.
7. Fossil radioactivity shortens geologic 'ages' to a few years.
8. Helium in the wrong places.
9. Not enough Stone Age skeletons.
10. Agriculture is too recent.
11. History is too short.
According to evolutionists, Stone Age man existed for 100,000 years before beginning to make written records about 4,000-5,000 years ago. Prehistoric man built megalithic monuments, made beautiful cave paintings, and kept records of lunar phases.(23) Why would he wait a thousand centuries before using the same skills to record history? The biblical time-scale is much more likely.(22)
http://christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c012.ht ...
You have plagiarized that from the Church of Christ thread and you know it has been answered, but you are afraid to read the answers which come from a genuine scientific website and not a theological, pseudoscience fake.
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/misc...

You also saw this: "You can also learn about the accuracy of dating the earth from a 50 year old Nobel lecture which every genuine scientist (but not theologian) accepts as factual.
We have progressed dramatically since this "old technology" but even then, it was accurate enough to shoot down a baby earth."
http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/chemis...
Auntie Theist

United States

#5140 Nov 4, 2013
Does my freethinking and freeposting shock your religiously controlled sex life? I have no sexual hang ups caused by religion. If you feel guilt and experience shame it is because of your religion. I'll bet it hurts to even think of it, but I force you to.
I ask again - do you masturbate?

Since: Jul 10

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#5141 Nov 4, 2013
Auntie Theist wrote:
Does my freethinking and freeposting shock your religiously controlled sex life? I have no sexual hang ups caused by religion. If you feel guilt and experience shame it is because of your religion. I'll bet it hurts to even think of it, but I force you to.
I ask again - do you masturbate?
What I do in private with my wife is none of anybody's business, some of us believe in privacy when it comes to certain things.

Since: Mar 13

Jackson, TN

#5142 Nov 4, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> What I do in private with my wife is none of anybody's business, some of us believe in privacy when it comes to certain things.
As long as it is biblicaly sound though, right? I mean, that gay couple down the road better not be falling in love without your god's permission, right?

Since: Mar 13

Jackson, TN

#5143 Nov 4, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
removed text, link to original source here: http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/2005...
Here is a blog where the guy breaks down each one: http://aigbusted.blogspot.com/2007/09/humphre...

and here was what I replied with as well:
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/jackson-tn/TA...

Since: Jul 10

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#5144 Nov 4, 2013
another viewer wrote:
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As long as it is biblicaly sound though, right? I mean, that gay couple down the road better not be falling in love without your god's permission, right?
Gay people will not get God's permission.“Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.”
—1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NKJV) Among all the sins mentioned in the Bible, perhaps none is more disgusting to God than that of homosexuality. God destroyed two cities in the plains of Jordan, called Sodom and Gomorrah, because their wickedness was exceedingly great (Genesis 13:10-13). Our English word, "sodomy" is a derivative of the word "Sodom," for the cities were full of the sins of sodomy.

Since: Mar 13

Jackson, TN

#5145 Nov 5, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> Gay people will not get God's permission.“Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.”
—1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NKJV) Among all the sins mentioned in the Bible, perhaps none is more disgusting to God than that of homosexuality. God destroyed two cities in the plains of Jordan, called Sodom and Gomorrah, because their wickedness was exceedingly great (Genesis 13:10-13). Our English word, "sodomy" is a derivative of the word "Sodom," for the cities were full of the sins of sodomy.
Okay, so something that someone does that is private is still your concern then.

oh, and by the way, and you know this from past posts:

Biblical scholars have stated that the exact terms and phrases used in the original biblical text have nothing to do with homosexuality. The text is against underage sex and shrine prostitution and NEVER refers to a faithful, committed, non-cultic partnership between two men or two women.

arsenokoites: shrine prostitution. Arsenokoites and arsenokoitai were never a reference to homosexuals nor were they ever used to refer to lesbians

malakoi: referred to intellectual weakness or moral weakness or some kind of softness which implied effeminacy

Josephus, AD 37-100, used malakos to describe men who appeared soft or weak through lack of courage in battle or who were reluctant to commit suicide in defeat or who enjoyed too much luxury.

Since: Mar 13

Jackson, TN

#5146 Nov 5, 2013
Now, since you are more of a man of the new testament, and more of a follower of Jesus than of man here is a list of everything that Jesus had to say about homosexuality:

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3.

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#5147 Nov 5, 2013
another viewer wrote:
Now, since you are more of a man of the new testament, and more of a follower of Jesus than of man here is a list of everything that Jesus had to say about homosexuality:
1.
2.
3.
Being gay is an abomination unto the Lord, what more does anybody have to say to get it through to you that it is a sin to be gay. Romans 1:25-27 and 1 Timothy 1:8-10. What is written in the bible is written by God, the writers were divinely guided on what to write for God. Jesus never mentioned homosexuality, but He did condemn all forms of sexual immorality:

What comes out of you is what defiles you. For from within, out of your hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside and defile you.(TNIV, Mark 7:20-23)

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#5148 Nov 5, 2013
another viewer wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay, so something that someone does that is private is still your concern then.
oh, and by the way, and you know this from past posts:
Biblical scholars have stated that the exact terms and phrases used in the original biblical text have nothing to do with homosexuality. The text is against underage sex and shrine prostitution and NEVER refers to a faithful, committed, non-cultic partnership between two men or two women.
arsenokoites: shrine prostitution. Arsenokoites and arsenokoitai were never a reference to homosexuals nor were they ever used to refer to lesbians
malakoi: referred to intellectual weakness or moral weakness or some kind of softness which implied effeminacy
Josephus, AD 37-100, used malakos to describe men who appeared soft or weak through lack of courage in battle or who were reluctant to commit suicide in defeat or who enjoyed too much luxury.
Gay marriage isn't private, and it causes more people to be loss. Gay marriage is a sin and goes against what God says marriage is suppose to be.

Since: Mar 13

Jackson, TN

#5149 Nov 5, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> Being gay is an abomination unto the Lord, what more does anybody have to say to get it through to you that it is a sin to be gay. Romans 1:25-27 and 1 Timothy 1:8-10. What is written in the bible is written by God, the writers were divinely guided on what to write for God. Jesus never mentioned homosexuality, but He did condemn all forms of sexual immorality:
What comes out of you is what defiles you. For from within, out of your hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside and defile you.(TNIV, Mark 7:20-23)
Check your translation:

Mark 7:20-23

Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

20 And he said --`That which is coming out from the man, that doth defile the man;

21 for from within, out of the heart of men, the evil reasonings do come forth, adulteries, whoredoms, murders,

22 thefts, covetous desires, wickedness, deceit, arrogance, an evil eye, evil speaking, pride, foolishness;

23 all these evils do come forth from within, and they defile the man.'

Since: Mar 13

Jackson, TN

#5150 Nov 5, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> Gay marriage isn't private, and it causes more people to be loss. Gay marriage is a sin and goes against what God says marriage is suppose to be.
Here’s a summary of the marriages that god/jesus promoted via the bible:

1. Polygynous Marriage: Probably the most common form of marriage in the bible, it is where a man has more than one wife.

2. Levirate Marriage: When a woman was widowed without a son, it became the responsibility of the brother-in-law or a close male relative to take her in and impregnate her. If the resulting child was a son, he would be considered the heir of her late husband. See Ruth, and the story of Onan (Gen. 38:6-10).

3. A man, a woman and her property — a female slave: The famous “handmaiden” sketch, as preformed by Abraham (Gen. 16:1-6) and Jacob (Gen. 30:4-5).

4. A man, one or more wives, and some concubines: The definition of a concubine varies from culture to culture, but they tended to be live-in mistresses. Concubines were tied to their “husband,” but had a lower status than a wife. Their children were not usually heirs, so they were safe outlets for sex without risking the line of succession. To see how badly a concubine could be treated, see the famous story of the Levite and his concubine (Judges 19:1-30).

5. A male soldier and a female prisoner of war: Women could be taken as booty from a successful campaign and forced to become wives or concubines. Deuteronomy 21:11-14 describes the process.

6. A male rapist and his victim: Deuteronomy 22:28-29 describes how an unmarried woman who had been raped must marry her attacker.

7. A male and female slave: A female slave could be married to a male slave without consent, presumably to produce more slaves.

8. Monogamous, heterosexual marriage: What you might think of as the standard form of marriage, provided you think of arranged marriages as the standard. Also remember that inter-faith or cross-ethnic marriage were forbidden for large chunks of biblical history.

Now, moving on.
Here is a christian website the breaks down what the bible does say about this form of relationship:

http://www.wouldjesusdiscriminate.org/biblica...

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