WorldVenture, DreamTrips ?
A Newbie

Chicago, IL

#206 Mar 18, 2013
The biggest pyramid scheme is the one you're currently working in. You're helping your employers make millions, if not billions of dollars but yet you're not paid enough to be rich. You're paid enough to get by. So before knocking what you have no clue about, get a clue about what you're doing now. I work for a multinational comglomerate and they make billions in revenue, yet only a small percentage make the big bucks and those are on top. Top of the pyramid. We work hard to do our jobs so the consumers come back for more as the bigwigs line their pockets. All the while we make enough to live a good life, financially speaking. Good but not great. Why wouldn't i want to provide more for my family? Amway, Avon, Mary Kay, Candle parties, etc all function the same way. Do the big people at WV make money? Yes, they do. But so do the CEOs at big Wall Street firms, they're reaping the rewards of sitting back and watching us all work for them. All i know is i'm going for mine. I made my initial investment back so from this point it's all extra cash. And I'm ok with the small commisions some months. That's because i'm enjoying the benfits of trips. My family is happy taking these trips and they are the only ones that matter to me.
damn

Brooklyn, NY

#207 Mar 18, 2013
I got suckered into just only hearing the whole introduction piece with the DvD and immediately I knew what it was. This person I thought was me "friend" really wasn't and was just trying to use me to get himself out. He said he's been in it for only 3 months and is thinking of quitting school to go full time. I feel really sorry for him, but I'm no sucker; you're not going to make any money off of me and get me stuck.
Cold Hard Truth

Minneapolis, MN

#208 Mar 18, 2013
A Newbie wrote:
The biggest pyramid scheme is the one you're currently working in. You're helping your employers make millions, if not billions of dollars but yet you're not paid enough to be rich. You're paid enough to get by. So before knocking what you have no clue about, get a clue about what you're doing now. I work for a multinational comglomerate and they make billions in revenue, yet only a small percentage make the big bucks and those are on top. Top of the pyramid. We work hard to do our jobs so the consumers come back for more as the bigwigs line their pockets. All the while we make enough to live a good life, financially speaking. Good but not great. Why wouldn't i want to provide more for my family? Amway, Avon, Mary Kay, Candle parties, etc all function the same way. Do the big people at WV make money? Yes, they do. But so do the CEOs at big Wall Street firms, they're reaping the rewards of sitting back and watching us all work for them. All i know is i'm going for mine. I made my initial investment back so from this point it's all extra cash. And I'm ok with the small commisions some months. That's because i'm enjoying the benfits of trips. My family is happy taking these trips and they are the only ones that matter to me.
Get out of here with your bogus talking points. "You're paid enough to get by." Please, enough with the dramatics. You realize most Americans live above the poverty line, right? You realize most Americans work for companies that aren't MLMs, right? You realize WorldVentures is an MLM, right? You realize only 3% of WorldVentures representatives make money on top of their initial "investments," right? You realize that of those 3%, a majority of them make income below the poverty line, right?

Pretty sure that settles which "pyramid scheme" is worse. And yes, I understand you're doing it on the side. Just don't come ragging on normal jobs to justify your selling of WorldsVentures memberships, when the facts speak for themselves--normal jobs will get you A LOT further than MLMs.
A Newbie

Chicago, IL

#209 Mar 19, 2013
Cold Hard Truth wrote:
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Get out of here with your bogus talking points. "You're paid enough to get by." Please, enough with the dramatics. You realize most Americans live above the poverty line, right? You realize most Americans work for companies that aren't MLMs, right? You realize WorldVentures is an MLM, right? You realize only 3% of WorldVentures representatives make money on top of their initial "investments," right? You realize that of those 3%, a majority of them make income below the poverty line, right?
Pretty sure that settles which "pyramid scheme" is worse. And yes, I understand you're doing it on the side. Just don't come ragging on normal jobs to justify your selling of WorldsVentures memberships, when the facts speak for themselves--normal jobs will get you A LOT further than MLMs.
I got a feeling "Cold Hard Truth" didn't do so well in World Ventures since he is trolling all the comments on here and slamming each one. Usually the haters are the ones that fell on their faces. lol
Cold Hard Truth

Saint Paul, MN

#210 Mar 19, 2013
A Newbie wrote:
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I got a feeling "Cold Hard Truth" didn't do so well in World Ventures since he is trolling all the comments on here and slamming each one. Usually the haters are the ones that fell on their faces. lol
Nope, I actually did my research when approached about possibly attending a WorldVentures meeting. My honest research revealed that it would not be worth it. Now, I notice you refuse to acknowledge any of my points. Surely if WorldVentures is as great as you would like people to believe it is, you would be able to refute my points. It's obvious, you can not. That should tell anybody who might be on the fence about joining, all that they need to know.
avenger

Jackson, TN

#211 Mar 20, 2013
cam wrote:
<quoted text>Yes it can. Every dollar that you put in for your monthly dues is a dollar towards your vacation. I always "think" about setting back for a vacation. This however allows me to actually start "doing it". Why would I NOT want to try to help friends and family do the same thing? Every business is a scam if your only thought is that there is someone above you making more than you do off of your hard work. I have been reading these comments looking for a valid reason to not join and have not found a single one. So as I am pretty sure that as soon as I can I will be one of these worthless evil people that you speek of. By the way, I am sure that there are plenty of people out there doing this to only better them selves and just make the sale but that is not the person that OFFERED this to me and nor will it be me. What is really funny after reading most of these is everyones thought that this company is out to screw everyone that joins. If that were so how it be were it is? This company cares at least as much about you as the person that you purchased your car, house or any other commision sold good does. Chew an that for a while
You are WRONG about every dollar you put in goes toward your vacation
avenger

Jackson, TN

#212 Mar 20, 2013
A Newbie wrote:
<quoted text>I got a feeling "Cold Hard Truth" didn't do so well in World Ventures since he is trolling all the comments on here and slamming each one. Usually the haters are the ones that fell on their faces. lol
I'm hating cuz my "friend" told me we were going to a movie and it ended up being WV after I made it very clear I wasn't interested and he has been in it for 3 years and has and goes to all the parties and never been able to take a vacation
Knowledge is power

Duluth, GA

#214 Mar 27, 2013
For all of you who says this is a scam, a pyramid, etc. Have you done any research or just believe what you read on google. The problem I see in this company is that they try to get every person to become a representative and not just present people with the product. The product of this company can stand by itself (proof that it isn't a pyramid #1). Also, the representatives get paid for selling memberships not representatives( proof that it isn't a pyramid #2). In a pyramid, you don't have a product that can stand by itself and you get compensated on signing up new reps. As for not going on a dreamtrip until you get your 4? That's not true at all. You can go on a dreamtrip as soon as you sign up! Better yet EVERY SINGLE DOLLAR YOU PAY TOWARDS YOUR MEMBERSHIP IS GIVEN BACK TO YOU IN THE FORM OF REWARD POINTS TO USE ON ONE OF THE DREAMTRIPS! REWARD POINTS HAVE A DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR EQUIVALENCE! So now, your membership is basically free. Do your research people. 9th grade English class. Also you don't have to be a rep. You can just get the membership and reap from all the savings!!!
jerseygirl

Wayne, NJ

#215 Apr 15, 2013
well known wrote:
It's a scam....scam.....SCAM! The people involved are so annoying and they keep thinking they'll get a silver BMW. Do some research most ppl involved are convicts and felons.
I know someone that not one of their kidS got the BMW but both of there kids did! My cuz also a representative and had gone on vacations. I had also done a lot of research about this and if you work hard for what you want in life...you will get it!!! SO GO BACK AND DO MORE RESEARCH AND NO THE PEOPLE INVOLVED OUR NOT CONVICTS NOR FELONS
Got It

Gilroy, CA

#216 Apr 17, 2013
One word "ignorance". All of these comments is not factual. Just opinions. Need to do your research before you can pass judgment. It's a business, it's legal. You don't see the opportunity because you lack thinking, you have a scares mentality. Your friends share it with you because they have a abundance mentality. They don't want to hang with you now because they don't want to hang out with people with scares mentality. They see the opportunity of abundance.
They are looking in sharing there life with friends who want to live life to the fullest, not one who is holding on waiting for the end....
It's not the lack money....cuz if you understand business you can have tax break that will overcome the fees. It's the knowledge you are lacking.
If you are looking at this with the mine set of your checking account balance, you won't see it. That the sad part, cuz you may need it the most so you can start experiencing life and start living.
I'm sad for all of you...that you can't see the prison that you are in.
I go on vacations TOO

Saint Paul, MN

#217 Apr 17, 2013
Silly wrote:
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one of my good friends goes on trips all the time, hes been doing it for years now, hes even already gotten his bmw its nice, his family joined in too and there always going on trips, ive thought about it but never tried, oh well
Sounds great, but how many of these vacations are "Free". Are they paying for themselves. I've compared prices through DreamTrips and Travelocity, they are not much different. Considering the monthly fee you aren't saving.
Put the $200 in a savings account. Then $60 a month there after. After a year that's $920. Even without the initial 200. With that amount of money you can book your own cruise or destination vacation. Flight included.
Cold Hard Truth

Saint Paul, MN

#218 Apr 17, 2013
Got It wrote:
One word "ignorance". All of these comments is not factual. Just opinions. Need to do your research before you can pass judgment. It's a business, it's legal. You don't see the opportunity because you lack thinking, you have a scares mentality. Your friends share it with you because they have a abundance mentality. They don't want to hang with you now because they don't want to hang out with people with scares mentality. They see the opportunity of abundance.
They are looking in sharing there life with friends who want to live life to the fullest, not one who is holding on waiting for the end....
It's not the lack money....cuz if you understand business you can have tax break that will overcome the fees. It's the knowledge you are lacking.
If you are looking at this with the mine set of your checking account balance, you won't see it. That the sad part, cuz you may need it the most so you can start experiencing life and start living.
I'm sad for all of you...that you can't see the prison that you are in.
Wow, were you sober when you posted this, or is English not your native language?

"All of these comments is not factual. Just opinions. Need to do your research before you can pass judgment."

Apparently you just conveniently skipped over the posts that included facts? Because there were many. Most likely you skipped them because the people that actually do research and present facts demonstrate how WorldVentures is a BAD IDEA and you know the only way you can attempt to refute/discredit them is by doing what you did above, which is to deflect the conversation using ad hominem attacks.
Got It

Gilroy, CA

#219 Apr 18, 2013
Ok mr. Jackson....

What if the fees are match as travel dollar, usable for a dreamtrips. What if the monthly fees are also match as travel dollar. So, what's the risk?

See, you are missing the point. It's network marketing. It's advertising. It's redirecting were people spend their money. They don't give you free trips!!!

You are a member of a travel club too...you just don't know it. You paid initiation fee and you've been paying monthly fees too. Your initiation was buying a flat screen tv at $1500 and a monthly fee of $80 for cable. This is a lifetime fee. You can say you are using all the other web base travel for free. With any web base business you need exposure, television. Go google Priceline financial and see how much the pay for sales. Last year was 2.1 billion!

WorldVentures and Rovia, like any other network marketing, they just leverage their advertising dollar different. They share it amongs the users and promotors. It's a paradime shift, it's a shift of abundance for the people. Not the normal scarcity of the rich. I believe, if you are mean person you won't see network marketing. These are good people trying to help people. The Internet is good, because we as individual can now share with great numbers. The bad thing, we as individual can share with great numbers!!!

Yes, this is my second language.
safitou

Reynoldsburg, OH

#220 Apr 21, 2013
well known wrote:
It's a scam....scam.....SCAM! The people involved are so annoying and they keep thinking they'll get a silver BMW. Do some research most ppl involved are convicts and felons.
Went to one of the meetings today, and quess what, there were four of those Silver BMWs in the parking lot -- What!!!
hometown

Arlington, TX

#221 Apr 23, 2013
If it sounds too good to be true, then it is. U guess you have to live and learn. I was hard headed too when I was young. I grabbed every shiny thing that presented itself as a great opportunity. The game never changes folks, the way the game looks only changes. But believe me, it's still the same old tired game. Live and learn. No matter how many people try to convince you, you never believe them. You just have to get those lumps in your head and learn the hard way. You choose to believe a lie because it sounds good, rather than accepting the truth for what it is. Poor suckers.
true

Jackson, TN

#222 Apr 23, 2013
hometown wrote:
If it sounds too good to be true, then it is. U guess you have to live and learn. I was hard headed too when I was young. I grabbed every shiny thing that presented itself as a great opportunity. The game never changes folks, the way the game looks only changes. But believe me, it's still the same old tired game. Live and learn. No matter how many people try to convince you, you never believe them. You just have to get those lumps in your head and learn the hard way. You choose to believe a lie because it sounds good, rather than accepting the truth for what it is. Poor suckers.
The sad part is some are so dumb they have been in it for 4 years paying $65 a month and never took a trip cuz they can't keep people in the damn thing
true

Jackson, TN

#223 Apr 23, 2013
Oh and that $65 a month for 4 years comes out to $2,730 spent just to say I'm in world ventures. Yeah there is a venture alright it's the people that started this scam and their shuttle going right up your a$$ without any lube
matt

Columbus, OH

#224 Apr 25, 2013
Look at these dumbass gullible WV people spamming this thread. I went to their fb page and ask many direct questions only to get blocked.
matt

Columbus, OH

#225 Apr 25, 2013
Ok...since you guys make such big money care to post your W-2's from last year? How about a pic of you next to your imaginary BMW. Just because you changed the wording of your scam to multi level doesn't make it any different from a pyramid scheme. You want facts, Only the top 3% make any semblance of money...would you like the link for this?
Billy Bob

Chicago, IL

#226 Apr 26, 2013
Cold Hard Truth wrote:
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Great representation you are for WorldVentures. You used "complete losers" in this post and "lazy asses" in your previous, to describe people whom are skeptical of WorldVentures. Since the comments were made within minutes of each other and both from Dallas, TX (in a Jackson, TN forum), don't think you're fooling anyone by changing your name. Anyway, you claim "all businesses are pyramid shaped." Well, name me another business where the business representatives must pay the company to become representatives AND where a majority of those representatives don't make any money at all.
Avon, Pampered Chef, Amway, McDonalds, Burger King, Subway, etc...
Pick a franchise.

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