WorldVenture, DreamTrips ?

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It is a great deal!!! U only get out of something what u put into it!!
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I make money off it every month
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Oh but u can save 5 cents on a burger at mcdonalds
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Don't quit your day job for this scam...oh wait some of you already did.
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I swear this company brainwashes folks. I know someone that started "selling" their hopes and dreams. They have gone way off the deep end.
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I get so sick of seeing these multi-level marketing scams showing up at the churches I have attended. It's amazing how these people act like your a good friend and then when you say "no thanks" to the scam, they don't have much to do with you.
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May 26, 2012
 
guest wrote:
I get so sick of seeing these multi-level marketing scams showing up at the churches I have attended. It's amazing how these people act like your a good friend and then when you say "no thanks" to the scam, they don't have much to do with you.
Thats where my "friend" tried to snag me. I agree with you Guest.
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The sad part is our friends are only looking out for themselves when they feed this to us. My Friend lied to me saying we were going to a movie and we pull up and it's world ventures which I had already told him I didn't want anything to do with it
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With friends like that, who needs enemies!! Like posted earlier, it's almost like they are brainwashed and there's no convincing them otherwise!
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May 27, 2012
 
Who has ever actually taken a trip with WV??
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I think I've finally realized what is so unsettling about this company. These people are not pushing for you to book a vacation through them. They are pushing for you to join the membership so that they can defer their cost onto you. Think about it. Your best friend in the whole world, your favorite cousin or sister do not want you to sign up because they are truly interested in saving you money with your travel expense. They are interested in signing you up because once they recruit so many members, they no longer have to pay membership fees. Their selling point is not the great savings on travel expense. The selling point is that you can also avoid the membership fees by referring others. Remember, they get paid based on the number of people that sign up under them. That includes the people you sign up and the people that they sign up and so on... So the point I'm trying to make is that even if this proves to be profitable for some people, they are lacking a rather important component of any long-standing business endeavor... ETHICS. There is no amount of money that would convince me to CON my friends and family into spending $1000 a year so that I could make a living. You may as well just ask them to pay your bills. Basically you are asking your closest friends and relatives to pay your fees for you. Do your research on the DreamTrips portion of the sale before you even consider signing up. They barely even mention the travel benefits. They are very vague and fail to mention that you can only book vacations on specific dates and specific locations. They hardly mention this part because that is the only thing they offer that separates this MLM model from a Ponzi scheme. So get paid all you want, but remember those commissions you are recieving are coming straight out of the pockets of your recruits. What if that person is raising children on their own with a small income. Can you live with yourself knowing that is the person paying your way? That person did not come to you. This is a person that you sought out and CONvinced. Is it worth the extra money? The price you ultimately pay is much higher than any amount printed on the pretty brochure. Worth it?
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Ethics 101 wrote:
I think I've finally realized what is so unsettling about this company. These people are not pushing for you to book a vacation through them. They are pushing for you to join the membership so that they can defer their cost onto you. Think about it. Your best friend in the whole world, your favorite cousin or sister do not want you to sign up because they are truly interested in saving you money with your travel expense. They are interested in signing you up because once they recruit so many members, they no longer have to pay membership fees. Their selling point is not the great savings on travel expense. The selling point is that you can also avoid the membership fees by referring others. Remember, they get paid based on the number of people that sign up under them. That includes the people you sign up and the people that they sign up and so on... So the point I'm trying to make is that even if this proves to be profitable for some people, they are lacking a rather important component of any long-standing business endeavor... ETHICS. There is no amount of money that would convince me to CON my friends and family into spending $1000 a year so that I could make a living. You may as well just ask them to pay your bills. Basically you are asking your closest friends and relatives to pay your fees for you. Do your research on the DreamTrips portion of the sale before you even consider signing up. They barely even mention the travel benefits. They are very vague and fail to mention that you can only book vacations on specific dates and specific locations. They hardly mention this part because that is the only thing they offer that separates this MLM model from a Ponzi scheme. So get paid all you want, but remember those commissions you are recieving are coming straight out of the pockets of your recruits. What if that person is raising children on their own with a small income. Can you live with yourself knowing that is the person paying your way? That person did not come to you. This is a person that you sought out and CONvinced. Is it worth the extra money? The price you ultimately pay is much higher than any amount printed on the pretty brochure. Worth it?
Wow! You put that perfect. Great job
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Ethics 101 wrote:
I think I've finally realized what is so unsettling about this company. These people are not pushing for you to book a vacation through them. They are pushing for you to join the membership so that they can defer their cost onto you. Think about it. Your best friend in the whole world, your favorite cousin or sister do not want you to sign up because they are truly interested in saving you money with your travel expense. They are interested in signing you up because once they recruit so many members, they no longer have to pay membership fees. Their selling point is not the great savings on travel expense. The selling point is that you can also avoid the membership fees by referring others. Remember, they get paid based on the number of people that sign up under them. That includes the people you sign up and the people that they sign up and so on... So the point I'm trying to make is that even if this proves to be profitable for some people, they are lacking a rather important component of any long-standing business endeavor... ETHICS. There is no amount of money that would convince me to CON my friends and family into spending $1000 a year so that I could make a living. You may as well just ask them to pay your bills. Basically you are asking your closest friends and relatives to pay your fees for you. Do your research on the DreamTrips portion of the sale before you even consider signing up. They barely even mention the travel benefits. They are very vague and fail to mention that you can only book vacations on specific dates and specific locations. They hardly mention this part because that is the only thing they offer that separates this MLM model from a Ponzi scheme. So get paid all you want, but remember those commissions you are recieving are coming straight out of the pockets of your recruits. What if that person is raising children on their own with a small income. Can you live with yourself knowing that is the person paying your way? That person did not come to you. This is a person that you sought out and CONvinced. Is it worth the extra money? The price you ultimately pay is much higher than any amount printed on the pretty brochure. Worth it?
Very well said! I'd love to post that on facebook to hush a few very obnoxious, overzealous WV sales people. It would definitely get their panties in a wad! Lol. Every time I go on a vacation or weekend away, I really want to post a picture with the caption, "YOU SHOULD BE HERE! But wait... You're not because you're too busy trying to sell that great travel membership instead of actually traveling!"
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You are MORE than welcome to copy and paste my comment on your Facebook page. I thought about doing that myself!! You can even take credit for it!! I like that you had the ethical decency to not just do it anyway, but you go ahead... The credit is all yours. I would like to see the word out there before even more people get sucked in. As sad as it is, this marketing tactic actually targets those who are already struggling. How can a single mother/father of four say no to the opportunity to make extra money? I think it is probably too late when people realize what they have gotten themselves into. My guess would be after three months of your recruits paying fees they already can't afford, when the new wears off and there is no one there cheering them on, they will start calculating the money they could have saved by not signing up to put toward their own vacation (or groceries). At this point, they become aware that even if the travel benefits did allow them to take three nice and inexpensive vacations a year, they would never have the chance to take them because who can take three weeks of vacation time from work? Did your sales rep mention that flight/rental car expense is not included in these great deals? When people sign up and realize they are not going to benefit from the membership, they will be ready to cancel. If you join this membership, you will be faced with an ultimatum. You can pay the $920/yr that you will likely never benefit from and then have an awkward confrontation with your "friend" or family member about cancellation or you can sell the membership yourself, which means you will become as morally bankrupt as the person who sold it to you. I don't think the people selling this junk are bad people with bad intentions. I think they become desperate after investing so much time and money that they have no choice but to try to relay the expense onto the next unsuspecting person. Know this, the people that are calling you and emailing you even after you have said "no" have only one goal to achieve. The high pressure sales pitch to sign up right now before you miss your chance is a desperate attempt to get their money back. To reiterate, yes, some people may be making a financial gain. They may even appear to be doing quite well, but it is at your expense and if you want to get your money back, you will be forced to take it from the pockets of your closest friends and family. The training seminars actually encourage sales reps to target their closest friends and family because these are the people who love you and trust you and will take your word without asking many questions. Like I said, if you think this is your golden opportunity, do your homework first. General rule of thumb..."Owning your own business," means working for yourself to make money for yourself. In this case, you are marketing for someone else to make money for someone else to put in their pocket. You receive a kickback, a small portion of your sales (otherwise known as commission). CONTINUE to next post
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Something else to consider, all the money that you make is considered personal income which means you will owe taxes on every dollar. Your work-related expense will be tax-deductible, but you are not directly reimbursed for any expenses. So, just because you are raking in $4000/mo does not mean you are making $4000/mo. Tax will be owed on every dollar and you will be out the general expenses that you incur. Food, gas, vehicle wear and tear, cell phone expense, etc. Tax deductions are not taken off the amount of tax that you owe, they are deducted from you gross taxable income. Not reporting your earnings on your tax return is tax evasion and is punishable by jail time. So, if you are already in over your head, I suggest talking with your CPA before spending any of the money you are "making." And don't forget, you may be responsible for repaying commissions you've earned from those that end up canceling. Good luck with that. Hope you've kept up with all of your expenses because I have a feeling the IRS will be doing some auditing before it is all said and done. The only trips you will be taking with DreamTrips are guilt trips and not from some stranger. It will be someone you know or love. It will be someone that will be hard to say no to. It's almost like they do it this way on purpose.(sarcasm). Remember, the driving force behind making a sale is not that they have a great service to offer that they truly believe in. It's really more of an afterthought. Once you say no to the business opportunity, then they start preaching about the travel benefits. The driving force behind making a sale is to get people signed up so they can try to get their money back. If you are doing incredible with this company and think its the best thing that ever happened to you, try asking the people who signed up under you how they feel. If you are making money, it's because those under you are losing money. Sleep well.
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tyi wrote:
I make money off it every month
how many family members and fellow church goers have you signed up? I guarantee you that some of them resent you for taking advantage of them. Does a few extra dollars in your pocket mean more to you than relationships and what were your friends? Hope you enjoy your trips that are being paid for by the money of others that now resent you!
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#25
May 29, 2012
 
Outstanding Rebuttal in Dyersburg topix on WV !! Outstanding !!!
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May 29, 2012
 
I have a friend who got his parents and brother in it once they figured out that it's near impossible to get people in and actually go on a trip they got out but not after wasting over $900 dollars each and sadly never got to take a trip and now he has no one in on his left or right so he still pays $60 a month
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#27
May 29, 2012
 
I cant believe so many people fall for this scam and have even agressive methods to lure their family and friends in.

NO is NO people! Dont try to lure your friends in because you were dumb enough to fall for it.

Just get out, save yourself the money and enjoy a trip on a time YOU choose on a location YOU choose with people YOU want to be with because none of that is possible with WV!
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May 30, 2012
 
It is an obvious scam and can't believe people out there fall for it. I have a few friends on facebook that get so mad when their friends don't buy into it. And do they really think they will get a "free" BMW??

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