GANGS in Jackson
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Larry Duke

United States

#1 Feb 27, 2012
So does anyone else now believe our City REALLY DOES have a gang problem? After what might as well be dubed the Lane Game Massacre this past weekend I really do cringe at the thought my grandson was out with his friends that night. I can say he certainly would never have been at a place with patrons of the sorts, but to think those GANG BANGERS pass through our city surely puts us all at risk of a chance encounter with gunfire and stray bullets.

Thank god it was in there OWN hangout - at least this time. If these THUG GANGS will open fire in a night club what would stop them from doing so in WalMart or the Mall? I spend weekends at the Farmer's Market selling my goods to help make ends meet. It scares me to know that a prohibition style massacre took place just a block from where us hard working folks spend so much time.

If Sheriff Woolfolk wants our votes then he needs to step up and take up the slack that our police and that new chief from Haywood county are leaving us to hang by our necks! I cannot go back to my twenties, become a police and do my part anymore. My career went to retirement years ago. I can only vote, call talk radio, and vote.

If Gist wants my vote he better put someone in charge that beat the bushes till these varmin go back to Memphis or are behind bars. If Woolfolk wants my vote then he needs to step up and take charge. Afterall he is the SHERIFF. And it is the Sheriff's responsibility to end lawlessness if the other people in this county WILL NOT!

This was ONCE a decent place. Even though Lane has always been a thorn in our town since they rioted and burned their own buildings in the '60s, I still think more can be done to stop THUGS that cause Lane to have a worse reputation. Make your opinion known. If you see the Mayor, Sheriff or Chief in town, stop them and ask,
"WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TODAY THAT WILL STOP ANOTHER GANG KILLING TOMORROW?"

GOD BLESS
garp

Lexington, TN

#2 Feb 27, 2012
Well I think it goes down like this: the Madison County Sheriff and the sheriff's department has no jurisdiction in the city of Jackson. The Mayor has full responsibiliy over the city, and under his authority is the city police dept and city fire dept. County government takes a hands off approach to anything within the city limits. Even though the people in the city also elect the county sheriff he has no law enforcemnt role in the city. Crazy ain't it. The city of Jackson is its own seperate kingdom, and the county is its own kingdom. Just like Shelby County and the City of Memphis.
garp

Lexington, TN

#3 Feb 27, 2012
But I fully understand your frustration and concerns. Our leaders seem to be playing number games. I know specific cases where homes were broken into yet the reports was filed as simple vandalism, not breaking and entry, or burglary. And I know the police have turned a blind eye to gang grafitti in the city when it was brought to their attention. the homeowner was told there were no gangs in the city and it was just a kid trying to be funny. Well a minor child with a pistol killed Troy Mitchell in cold blood. And he did it to please an older man with a criminal past.

I hope our city leaders understand that no one is laughing.
smartest guy in the room

Mount Juliet, TN

#4 Feb 27, 2012
In Tennessee counties, the Sheriff DOES have jurisdiction in the ENTIRE county. HOWEVER, Sheriffs typically defer to municipal police for matters occurring within city limits.

All that being said -- Yes, Jackson is on a terrible downward spiral. It's my hometown, and I love it, but it's not doing well right now. Until criminals lay down their guns, turn toward good (or God, for those who believe), and start working together for a better community, Jackson can only expect things to get worse.
garp

Lexington, TN

#5 Feb 27, 2012
He may on paper, but it doesn't seem to work that way here in Jackson and Madison county. People in the city assume since they directly elect the sheriff he is in charge, but in the city the charter makes the Mayor king and the Sherrif only has responsiblity over the county jail and county court house. They act like two different countries.
your voice counts

United States

#6 Feb 28, 2012
garp wrote:
He may on paper, but it doesn't seem to work that way here in Jackson and Madison county. People in the city assume since they directly elect the sheriff he is in charge, but in the city the charter makes the Mayor king and the Sherrif only has responsiblity over the county jail and county court house. They act like two different countries.
Metropolitan counties in Tennessee excluded, it is the Sheriff that is constitutionally required by the state to enforce laws and suppress lawlessness.

The reason the Sheriff doesnt take a more active role in the city is purely budget reasons. Why he doesnt seek to resolve this - well that is perhaps an election question. With the majority of the population and resulting offenses occurring in the city, the Sheriff can save money by just saying, "call the city." The city leaders are just willing to let them. Truth is the city leaders over the years have allowed this to creep in for the sake of glory - I can only suppose - to what is now expected.

Reality is the City can legally ignore just about anything they choose and if desired only enforce City ordinaces and wrecks on city streets - as that is all the Charter requires. As for murders or other felonies, the City could just call the county or notify the TBI and tell the THP to work all wrecks on state roads passing through the city. In fact, this has - and is increasingly taking place in other cities in Tennessee as money for municipalities is becoming more limited and tax revnues shrink. So, the truth is the city can continue to ignore the gang problem if they continue to do so. Nothing - other than maybe some stipulation of a finacial grant/aid they may receive - requires them to do so. In fact, when we talked budget cut backs years ago on the city council, someone then at the police department pointed out to us - you cut the money, we will cut services.

If our department had more money we would take a greater role in enforcing laws and trying to solve this county's gang problems. The gangs are not just in the city - rural areas are infected also. The only thing is we are about 150 deputies short. The city has to have about 150 officers to do what they do now, so if the county commision will allocate more money - I think the Sheriff would allocate more crime fighting efforts.

Until then, call the city, call the county, call the paper, come to civic meetings. It will always be everyones problem.
Just Wondering

United States

#7 Feb 28, 2012
garp wrote:
But I fully understand your frustration and concerns. Our leaders seem to be playing number games. I know specific cases where homes were broken into yet the reports was filed as simple vandalism, not breaking and entry, or burglary. And I know the police have turned a blind eye to gang grafitti in the city when it was brought to their attention. the homeowner was told there were no gangs in the city and it was just a kid trying to be funny. Well a minor child with a pistol killed Troy Mitchell in cold blood. And he did it to please an older man with a criminal past.
I hope our city leaders understand that no one is laughing.
The Troy Mitchell incident is good point. No gangs right? Just terrible that the blind eye is the only one the they keeo open.
garp

Lexington, TN

#8 Feb 28, 2012
your voice counts wrote:
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Metropolitan counties in Tennessee excluded, it is the Sheriff that is constitutionally required by the state to enforce laws and suppress lawlessness.
The reason the Sheriff doesnt take a more active role in the city is purely budget reasons. Why he doesnt seek to resolve this - well that is perhaps an election question. With the majority of the population and resulting offenses occurring in the city, the Sheriff can save money by just saying, "call the city." The city leaders are just willing to let them. Truth is the city leaders over the years have allowed this to creep in for the sake of glory - I can only suppose - to what is now expected.
Reality is the City can legally ignore just about anything they choose and if desired only enforce City ordinaces and wrecks on city streets - as that is all the Charter requires. As for murders or other felonies, the City could just call the county or notify the TBI and tell the THP to work all wrecks on state roads passing through the city. In fact, this has - and is increasingly taking place in other cities in Tennessee as money for municipalities is becoming more limited and tax revnues shrink. So, the truth is the city can continue to ignore the gang problem if they continue to do so. Nothing - other than maybe some stipulation of a finacial grant/aid they may receive - requires them to do so. In fact, when we talked budget cut backs years ago on the city council, someone then at the police department pointed out to us - you cut the money, we will cut services.
If our department had more money we would take a greater role in enforcing laws and trying to solve this county's gang problems. The gangs are not just in the city - rural areas are infected also. The only thing is we are about 150 deputies short. The city has to have about 150 officers to do what they do now, so if the county commision will allocate more money - I think the Sheriff would allocate more crime fighting efforts.
Until then, call the city, call the county, call the paper, come to civic meetings. It will always be everyones problem.
Thank you for clearing it up. I have been told locally that they operate as two seperate jurisdictions. If only the city and county would all work together to solve these problems. The pie is only so big and right now each side fights over who has the larger slice. I guess street gangs aren't the ones who fight turf wars.
Truth

Henderson, TN

#9 Feb 28, 2012
The truth is, the deputies are patrolling the city and are short-changing the county. That's a fact. We have one or two guys in the county working weekend nights, and all the rest are having to patrol the city to take up the slack from JPD.
guestpicker

United States

#10 Feb 28, 2012
Truth wrote:
The truth is, the deputies are patrolling the city and are short-changing the county. That's a fact. We have one or two guys in the county working weekend nights, and all the rest are having to patrol the city to take up the slack from JPD.
I wouldnt say taking up the slack from JPD, cause well if they are not made take it, they aint gonna touch it. Patrolling is right though, but for women not crime. I dont blame 'em though, there aint much to see at sadie lou or wilhites. Hell more the merry! plenty to share come on in boys and lets pass em around! lol
no solution

United States

#12 Mar 14, 2012
I certainly think we have a gang problem in this city. Anyone else agree? Read the main shooter in the karma incident was a known Crip and supposed to be in jail. Why was the JPD not aware of this? Where is the accountability? What would have happen had that shoot out been in walmart or where decent folk are like mentioned above? Suggestions?
guest

United States

#13 Mar 14, 2012
no solution wrote:
I certainly think we have a gang problem in this city. Anyone else agree? Read the main shooter in the karma incident was a known Crip and supposed to be in jail. Why was the JPD not aware of this? Where is the accountability? What would have happen had that shoot out been in walmart or where decent folk are like mentioned above? Suggestions?
i say as long as its in their side of town, what is the big deal?
Shooter

Jackson, TN

#14 Mar 15, 2012
guest wrote:
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i say as long as its in their side of town, what is the big deal?
Exactly. I'm ready to defend my side of town, hope the rest of you are as well!!
guest

United States

#15 Mar 17, 2012
Anyone know if the latest murder was gangs also? Happen just blocks from downtown.
guest

Lexington, TN

#16 Mar 17, 2012
If it was a gang initiation hit- do you honestly think the City would ever admit it? They all say there is no gang activity in Jackson.
greek

United States

#17 Mar 19, 2012
guest wrote:
If it was a gang initiation hit- do you honestly think the City would ever admit it? They all say there is no gang activity in Jackson.
could it have bad Karma?
lol

United States

#18 Mar 20, 2012
thats Funny
yea

Oakland, TN

#19 Mar 20, 2012
gangs in jackson dont know what we are going to do about those white kids
iknowthisone

Jackson, TN

#20 Mar 20, 2012
I can tell you as a former LEO in Madison County that Jackson has a major gang problem. It is just the way these people handle it is to pretend it is not gangs with real criminals, just misguided youths. Until they learn to hire and keep people that have real and fresh ideas and to focus enforcement efforts towards the problem no one will ever see improvements.
Twatter

Savannah, TN

#21 Mar 20, 2012
guest wrote:
If it was a gang initiation hit- do you honestly think the City would ever admit it? They all say there is no gang activity in Jackson.
Gang initiation hit, huh? Interesting insight! Thank you! Please share how you know this information. Also, was the subsequent shooting on Preston this past Saturday night an initiation or possibly a retaliation? Any thoughts?

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