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Puzzled

Henderson, TN

#1 Apr 22, 2013
I have a few questions about schools in Jackson and would like to ask if schools in other counties do this the same way.

Lets start with the bussystem. There is no way for parents to know who drives their children to school. Basically anyone can steal a schoolbus, pick up our kids and do bad things to them. It's just waiting for it to happen. I have seen a bunch of substitute drivers so how do I know who takes my child to school? When it's bad weather, our kids just have to wait till forever because "maybe" the bus will show up. And when you decide to take your child to school the people that help your child get out of the car have no clue. How can they have no clue what happened to the bus that was supposed to take a bunch of children to their school???

Then the "tardy" system. Another great system. We have been called 3 times now with an automated message saying that "your student was tardy". This message gets spewed out at about 4 PM which means there is no way to me to contact the school because everyone has gone home. When I finally can call the next day I hear that the system messed up. Now this can happen one time of course but 3 times in a row? And then, when our child actually WAS tardy, guess what... nothing. No message, no phonecall. Now let's assume something happened during the day to a child when they did not show up for school, does a parent really need to find out after school at 4 PM? When there is noone to contact anymore? I don't think that is wise.

Another great system Jackson schools use, the automated messaging phone system. This calls you at random times (read times that you are busy doing something else) with "useful" information. Random times being early Sunday morning for example or late in the evening. Or it will call you at 5:30 to say there is a meeting at 6:30 for you to attend. This is nice for people who plan of ahead. And as for the information, oh let's see, I will be told about things going on for classes that my children don't attend or sports events they do not want to go to. So after hearing the first 30 seconds I usually hang up.

Now the other day I actually hung up too soon because I actually didn't hear something properly. So naturally I assumed it would be on the website of the school. But lo and behold, of course the message was not on the school website in the news section where you would expect such an important message. In general, I have to rely on other sources (news, phone alerts) to hear really important things such as school closings due to weather.

I'm a working parent and like to stay involved as much as a can with my children but please tell me, how can I do that with these kind of (old fashioned) systems in place? How can I rely on the bussystem, tardy system and a newssystem with performances like this?

At the start of the schoolyear I was asked what type of method for information I preferred and I said e-mail. I have received 1 e-mail so far. The rest of the time my children are handed papers that either get handed out too late, get lost or crumbled.

Really? Is this really the most efficient way to do things for schools in 2013? What happened to e-mail that can be used to target information to only those that are interested rather than everyone and their dog? Informative websites with useful sections? And cell phones that could be used to quickly inform many people that the bus isn't coming that morning for example.

I would like to know if this the same for all schools or if this is just an exception. Maybe I'm just the only one who feels this way but I don't think so. I use modern technology at work every day so I know it can be used in an efficient way.
guest

Collierville, TN

#2 Apr 23, 2013
Although perhaps valid concerns, I think the issues mentioned above are the LEAST of the JMCSS's problems.
Problem solved

Covington, TN

#3 Apr 23, 2013
Puzzled wrote:
I have a few questions about schools in Jackson and would like to ask if schools in other counties do this the same way.
Lets start with the bussystem. There is no way for parents to know who drives their children to school. Basically anyone can steal a schoolbus, pick up our kids and do bad things to them. It's just waiting for it to happen. I have seen a bunch of substitute drivers so how do I know who takes my child to school? When it's bad weather, our kids just have to wait till forever because "maybe" the bus will show up. And when you decide to take your child to school the people that help your child get out of the car have no clue. How can they have no clue what happened to the bus that was supposed to take a bunch of children to their school???
Then the "tardy" system. Another great system. We have been called 3 times now with an automated message saying that "your student was tardy". This message gets spewed out at about 4 PM which means there is no way to me to contact the school because everyone has gone home. When I finally can call the next day I hear that the system messed up. Now this can happen one time of course but 3 times in a row? And then, when our child actually WAS tardy, guess what... nothing. No message, no phonecall. Now let's assume something happened during the day to a child when they did not show up for school, does a parent really need to find out after school at 4 PM? When there is noone to contact anymore? I don't think that is wise.
Another great system Jackson schools use, the automated messaging phone system. This calls you at random times (read times that you are busy doing something else) with "useful" information. Random times being early Sunday morning for example or late in the evening. Or it will call you at 5:30 to say there is a meeting at 6:30 for you to attend. This is nice for people who plan of ahead. And as for the information, oh let's see, I will be told about things going on for classes that my children don't attend or sports events they do not want to go to. So after hearing the first 30 seconds I usually hang up.
Now the other day I actually hung up too soon because I actually didn't hear something properly. So naturally I assumed it would be on the website of the school. But lo and behold, of course the message was not on the school website in the news section where you would expect such an important message. In general, I have to rely on other sources (news, phone alerts) to hear really important things such as school closings due to weather.
I'm a working parent and like to stay involved as much as a can with my children but please tell me, how can I do that with these kind of (old fashioned) systems in place? How can I rely on the bussystem, tardy system and a newssystem with performances like this?
At the start of the schoolyear I was asked what type of method for information I preferred and I said e-mail. I have received 1 e-mail so far. The rest of the time my children are handed papers that either get handed out too late, get lost or crumbled.
Really? Is this really the most efficient way to do things for schools in 2013? What happened to e-mail that can be used to target information to only those that are interested rather than everyone and their dog? Informative websites with useful sections? And cell phones that could be used to quickly inform many people that the bus isn't coming that morning for example.
I would like to know if this the same for all schools or if this is just an exception. Maybe I'm just the only one who feels this way but I don't think so. I use modern technology at work every day so I know it can be used in an efficient way.
Perhaps if you were to spend just 1/2 the time you do griping and instead utilize it in a more constructive manner you could help to find the solutions. Try it. It's called being a part of your children's education.
Blue eyed devil

Jackson, TN

#4 Apr 23, 2013
I went to north side for high school and some of my teachers smoked bud with me at school, when I was called to the office he also heald my drugs and knife until after the search. I wouldn't worry about the little sh!t ur stressing there is worse out there
Oh well

Jackson, TN

#5 Apr 23, 2013
The solution is, more money needs to be pumped into the school system. Raise taxes, put that money toward he schools. That is always the answer!
Community support

Covington, TN

#6 Apr 23, 2013
By simply being positive, finding the good & working together towards a common goal is what makes the difference. No one school is perfect through everyone's eyes any more than any one person. But parents & community stepping up helps to make change. Thats the difference in private schools - the vast majority of private school parents are involved & help to make a difference rather than do nothing but sit back complacent and or complaining like the majority of public school parents here.

Be a giver instead of always a taker - it's a choice!

Be a part of the solution OR shut your mouth. Lazy folks have no right to complain!
Puzzled

United States

#7 Apr 23, 2013
If you read my post I am making suggestions for improvement but I'm not responsible for what shools do, I can only go by what I see and experience.

However, I was asking for experiences with other schools. Not to be judged as lazy or not part of my childrens education.

Perhaps other people can contribute on my post?
Community support

Covington, TN

#8 Apr 23, 2013
Do you REALLY think turning to topix is going to resolve these issues which you consider problems?

Why not instead turn to who can make a difference if there are other options.......make an appointment with the principal of your child's school! This is a much more logical approach.

Keep in mind that with TCAP testing in process along with all the formalities of ending a school year, you most likely will not be able to get in for a meeting immediately. However, school principals gladly welcome helpful ideas and interested parents who want to be involved.

Laying out your issues at the school level while attempting to be proactive and helpful will make a difference vs ranting on topix any day!
Guest

Jackson, TN

#9 Apr 24, 2013
You can't fix a problem that refuses to accept its a problem.....ie the school Dist. Knows its a mess but refuses to do anything... Why do you think the Feds ran the school system for a while ? Nobody is going to change anything or make it better until the entire school board is replaced at the same time..... Why do you think a new CEO fires all the upper admin when he/she gets hired ?? Until that day comes .......good luck with the POS school system here......
Guest

Jackson, TN

#10 Apr 24, 2013
Community support wrote:
Do you REALLY think turning to topix is going to resolve these issues which you consider problems?
Why not instead turn to who can make a difference if there are other options.......make an appointment with the principal of your child's school! This is a much more logical approach.
Keep in mind that with TCAP testing in process along with all the formalities of ending a school year, you most likely will not be able to get in for a meeting immediately. However, school principals gladly welcome helpful ideas and interested parents who want to be involved.
Laying out your issues at the school level while attempting to be proactive and helpful will make a difference vs ranting on topix any day!
Been there done that........you get the generic " I'll have to look into that" ....
pepper

Rowlett, TX

#11 Apr 24, 2013
The transportation office is where you need to call for bussing issues. The bus drivers are not employees of your child's school. They are hired and managed by JMCSS, and unfortunately, they do not always communicate with the individual schools when they're late. The driver communicates with his or her boss, and I think most of the time if the driver is late but on the way, they don't call the school. The school is left to just assume the bus will be there eventually. They also don't have time to call every parent on that bus to let them know it's late. That's an unrealistic expectation. And yes, all of this is how all school districts handle it. If mine were stuck waiting like that, I would either keep them home or drive them. I know that is hard when you have to be at work, but life happens sometimes.

They definitely are not going to have time or see it as necessary at all to tell you that there's a substitute driver. If you're that paranoid about someone stealing a bus and kidnapping dozens of kids, you should probably not trust anyone to transport them and just take them your self. Or maybe hunker down in a storm shelter and homeschool. Seriously, that's paranoia.

On the automated call system... Do you know how many kids are in your child's school, let alone the whole district? Some messages are recorded just for your school, and sometimes the district office will do one for everyone. It takes hours for that to happen. The system can't make thousands of calls at the exact same instant. And what's a convenient time for you might be really inconvenient for a parent who works second shift. They can't work around thousands of schedules. I'm sure you remember that when you were in school, you had to get up on snow days and listen to the radio forever to find out if school was out or not. ou had to listen to the announcements and make it home with notes about other stuff. That's all fine, but now they have an easier way that saves paper, reaches all parents, and can be used even when school is out. Yes, other schools do this. And yes, it's common to get a message about one of the schools playing in the state tournament even if your child doesn't go there. They're getting the word out. I wouldn't hang up in the future because if they're communicating
Something with the automated system, they may not think it's necessary to log into their website and post it there, too. They've communicated. Their responsibility is completed. The system will play it's recording on your voicemail, so if you're busy or don't feel like listening, let it go to voicemail and you'll have it recorded for later.

Also.... you can't just add "system" to any word and make it a compound word.
guest

Jackson, TN

#12 Apr 24, 2013
Blue eyed devil wrote:
I went to north side for high school and some of my teachers smoked bud with me at school, when I was called to the office he also heald my drugs and knife until after the search. I wouldn't worry about the little sh!t ur stressing there is worse out there
What teacher was it? Lol I went too
Guest

Covington, TN

#13 Apr 24, 2013
Guest wrote:
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Been there done that........you get the generic " I'll have to look into that" ....
They're not miracle workers. Not to mention, its impossible to please some people. If you don't like it homeschool!
guest

United States

#14 Apr 24, 2013
They need to quit hiring all these church members as I said before in the post months ago. That's what's wrong with the school system now. They all birds that flock together and be asking children questions to get in their parents buisness that has nothing to do with school or nothing to be concerned about so they can go run their mouths at church to give them something to gossip about. Just about all the women from THAT church works there...
what school

Tucker, GA

#15 Apr 24, 2013
guest wrote:
They need to quit hiring all these church members as I said before in the post months ago. That's what's wrong with the school system now. They all birds that flock together and be asking children questions to get in their parents buisness that has nothing to do with school or nothing to be concerned about so they can go run their mouths at church to give them something to gossip about. Just about all the women from THAT church works there...
Works where?
guest

United States

#16 Apr 25, 2013
what school wrote:
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Works where?
In the school system. They work at just about every elementary school in jackson.
Mel

Dyersburg, TN

#17 Apr 25, 2013
The bus service is not required. It is a privilege provided by school systems. Only transportation required by law is for handicapped students. They could do away with it tomorrow. Of course, absenteeism would rise, but not as much as you think.

If you don't the automated message system, take your number off the list. Get more involved with your teachers, email them...call the school and ask for the info you are wanting to know.

Since: Jan 13

Jackson, TN

#18 Apr 25, 2013
guest wrote:
They need to quit hiring all these church members as I said before in the post months ago. That's what's wrong with the school system now. They all birds that flock together and be asking children questions to get in their parents buisness that has nothing to do with school or nothing to be concerned about so they can go run their mouths at church to give them something to gossip about. Just about all the women from THAT church works there...
I am thankful that there are church members and Christians employed by this school system. The positive influence they have on students in my family is greatly valued.
Kelly

Dallas, TX

#19 Apr 25, 2013
Committed to HIM wrote:
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I am thankful that there are church members and Christians employed by this school system. The positive influence they have on students in my family is greatly valued.
There's at least 1 atheist, too. Her superiors do not know. So if you think people should be bringing their religion into your child's classroom, you better think again because you might get the wrongs one next year. This is why even fundamentalists should be in favor of the separation of church and state.
guest

United States

#20 Apr 25, 2013
Committed to HIM wrote:
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I am thankful that there are church members and Christians employed by this school system. The positive influence they have on students in my family is greatly valued.
They don't define themselves as "christians". They on a whole other "denomination", very private and confidential "religion" and so is they lady that that works over personel at jmcsb. She does all the hiring to get them "in". They are not committed to "him". They do not serve the "lord" our "savior". They are there to just get a pay check just because they got the "job". They have their "picks"

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