Believers-In-God
really

Jackson, TN

#5174 Aug 29, 2013
False Religion wrote:
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Giordano Bruno. Have you heard of him? He was a friend of Galileo. In 1600, the Christian authorities in Rome took Giordano Bruno out of the dungeon he had been in for eight years, drove a nail thru his tongue, tied him to a metal post, put wood and some of his books under his feet, and burned him to death. Bruno’s crime was writing ideas that the Catholic leaders didn’t like — Earth revolves around the sun, the sun is a star, there might be other worlds with other intelligent beings on them, Jesus didn’t possess god-like power, and souls can’t go to Heaven. For these heretical ideas, the Catholic Church punished this brilliant man with an agonizingly slow death.
The Catholic Church officially condemned heliocentrism 31 years later, when Pope Alexander VII banned all books that affirmed Earth’s motion.
And to answer your question, Theists are getting out of the way of science more and more and the more they get out of science the more discoveries and more progress science makes.
SO you are saying since the 1600's there has been no man with balls to stand up for atheist and the cause when yall claim to be such freethinkers?
Auntie Theist

United States

#5175 Aug 29, 2013
Example of science being wrong:
Biblical science tells us that the sun orbits the earth (Its orbit was stopped for Joshua - guffaw)
The Christian church tortured and executed many who claimed otherwise (see inquisition.)
The enlightenment changed that and progress over the last few centuries has been enormous compared to the zero progress of the dark ages.
Auntie Theist

United States

#5176 Aug 29, 2013
Sorry False Religion I hadn't read your excellent post when I posted above. I wonder why we chose the same example?
really

Jackson, TN

#5177 Aug 29, 2013
Auntie Theist wrote:
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OK brainy person please point out the word "never" in the quote from me below:
"Science is NOT wrong. Science HAS BEEN wrong and updated."
ok not so brainy person tell me the difference between not and never? sounds like a contradiction to me
really

Jackson, TN

#5178 Aug 29, 2013
Auntie Theist wrote:
Example of science being wrong:
Biblical science tells us that the sun orbits the earth (Its orbit was stopped for Joshua - guffaw)
The Christian church tortured and executed many who claimed otherwise (see inquisition.)
The enlightenment changed that and progress over the last few centuries has been enormous compared to the zero progress of the dark ages.
whats funny is both examples have to do with a church beating and killing someone. Nothing to do with science being wrong. atheist are the biggest punks ever, so many years gone by and yall still have no balls, but then again you cross dress as im sure a lot of atheist do
Auntie Theist

United States

#5179 Aug 29, 2013
really wrote:
<quoted text>ok not so brainy person tell me the difference between not and never? sounds like a contradiction to me
No comment.
Q.E.D.
Auntie Theist

United States

#5180 Aug 29, 2013
really wrote:
<quoted text>whats funny is both examples have to do with a church beating and killing someone. Nothing to do with science being wrong. atheist are the biggest punks ever, so many years gone by and yall still have no balls, but then again you cross dress as im sure a lot of atheist do
Not worthy of comment.
Auntie Theist

United States

#5181 Aug 29, 2013
really wrote:
<quoted text>SO you are saying since the 1600's there has been no man with balls to stand up for atheist and the cause when yall claim to be such freethinkers?
No, he is not saying that. Read it again for your homework.
False Religion

Jackson, TN

#5182 Aug 29, 2013
really wrote:
<quoted text>whats funny is both examples have to do with a church beating and killing someone. Nothing to do with science being wrong. atheist are the biggest punks ever, so many years gone by and yall still have no balls, but then again you cross dress as im sure a lot of atheist do
You are correct, the science was correct and the church thought differently based on it's view of the bible. So, they killed the person who helped find the truth of the world around them and then suppressed the work.

In today's world, the different churches now try and suppress science via laws and restrictions. Which are not holding back the science as much anymore, so you will have what you want in due time. It took millions of years for humans to get to where we are now, it might take a few hundred years longer for you to get your supper powers you wish for.
False Religion

Jackson, TN

#5183 Aug 29, 2013
Quick quote time:

It seems to me that the idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I cannot take seriously. I also cannot imagine some will or goal outside the human sphere.... Science has been charged with undermining morality, but the charge is unjust. A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death.
-- Albert Einstein, "Religion and Science," New York Times Magazine, 9 November 1930

Since: Mar 12

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#5184 Aug 29, 2013
Reconcile With Your Brother Before Going To The Altar
Jesus taught that a man who is angry at his brother without cause, or accuses his brother of being a fool is in danger of judgment and hell fire. Anyone who goes to the holy altar when there is "bad blood" between him and his brother, should first go and reconcile with his brother. Afterward, he can present his gift unto the LORD. God demands that we have good relations with our brethren.

Since: Mar 12

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#5185 Aug 29, 2013
Truth lies latent in the pages of a book until the preacher opens his mouth and preaches the Word of the Lord.
"How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent?" "It pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe," I Corinthians 1:21.
Preacher, preach the Word!

Since: Mar 12

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#5186 Aug 29, 2013
Organic Thought versus Spirit
Science is increasingly able to identify channels of thought within the human brain. With Magnetic Resonance Imaging and other procedures, researchers track human thoughts and emotions with some reliability. While this might appear that all human thought and behavior is organic, man is also a living soul. Thoughts and feelings occurring in the spirit dimension cannot be tracked by research tools. Some things are truly known only to God.

Since: Mar 12

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#5187 Aug 29, 2013
Knowledge of the Voice
For into a malicious soul wisdom shall not enter; nor dwell in the body that is subject unto sin.  For the holy spirit of discipline will flee deceit, and remove from thoughts that are without understanding, and will not abide when unrighteousness cometh in. For wisdom is a loving spirit; and will not acquit a blasphemer of his words: for God is witness of his reins, and a true beholder of his heart, and a hearer of his tongue. For the Spirit of the Lord filleth the world: and that which containeth all things hath knowledge of the voice. &#65279;

Since: Feb 13

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#5188 Aug 29, 2013
Auntie Theist wrote:
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I dispute the super sensitivity you employ - while I agree that violence and threats thereof should not appear, suicide is not a sin in my book, and if someone wants to end it and head to heaven or whatever they believe in, any assistance to make it pain free should be welcomed.
Just a little FYI:

You will disagree with we believers, because you are a non-believer. However, we believe (at least the majority of us) that suicide IS a sin. We are commanded in the Ten Commandments "Thou Shalt Not Kill" It doesn't say we shouldn't murder, it says we shouldn't kill. The act of suicide is killing oneself.

You accused me of taking what you said about another poster jumping off a building to prove gravity kills, out of context. It surely READ like you were asking her to jump off a building and you'd find her a suitable one. If that isn't suggesting suicide, then that suggestion doesn't exist on this planet and we all know it most certainly DOES! Yet, while telling someone they are twisting what YOU say, you don't ever look back at the things YOU say to or about us that you've constantly twisted ever since you've been here. What is fair for you, should be fair for all, do you not agree?

You say you do not sin because you try to be a good person,(um, yeah, okay, if you say so) you don't steal, etc. But you DO sin in some way each day. We ALL do! You may not be lazy, but I've SEEN some of your sin right here on this thread. Here's an easy one, one almost all of us are guilty of at one time or another: Do you ever overeat? That's a sin, it's called gluttony.

Do you use God's name in vain? I'm almost sure you do, that's a sin. You ridicule every belief put here, and that's blasphemy, a sin.

Do you ever neglect to help someone, such as a beggar on the street? That's a sin too. We are supposed to love our neighbor as ourselves. That's why we are to speak with gentleness, which I've seen you neglect to do on SEVERAL occasions.

Yes, my friend, you DO sin on a daily basis. Whether you see things you do as sinful or not, isn't important. It's what God, the FATHER of all mankind, thinks is sinful. So if you TRULY want to find Him, then I suggest you begin by an admission of your sin. If you can't do that, then it's obvious that you aren't sincere in wanting to find God, there's no hope for you, and you're just wasting believers' time by asking questions you really don't want the answers to. But you know what? I think I know why you do that....

You are in awe of what great thinkers we are, and you enjoy reading our responses because you are amazed that we 'get' it, and you cannot or will not grasp it. Sorry, Charley, only those willing to do what is accepting will receive the free gift of Salvation. You will not accept ANY answer given, so why keep asking when you truly do not WANT to find God?

And oh yes! Ridiculing people and their beliefs is called persecution. That's sinful as well. But of course, you'll never admit to ANY of these things so I've just wasted my time trying to HELP you, as I, as a Christian, am supposed to do.
ANTI ATHEIST

Oakland, TN

#5189 Aug 29, 2013
False Religion wrote:
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Giordano Bruno. Have you heard of him? He was a friend of Galileo. In 1600, the Christian authorities in Rome took Giordano Bruno out of the dungeon he had been in for eight years, drove a nail thru his tongue, tied him to a metal post, put wood and some of his books under his feet, and burned him to death. Bruno’s crime was writing ideas that the Catholic leaders didn’t like — Earth revolves around the sun, the sun is a star, there might be other worlds with other intelligent beings on them, Jesus didn’t possess god-like power, and souls can’t go to Heaven. For these heretical ideas, the Catholic Church punished this brilliant man with an agonizingly slow death.
The Catholic Church officially condemned heliocentrism 31 years later, when Pope Alexander VII banned all books that affirmed Earth’s motion.
And to answer your question, Theists are getting out of the way of science more and more and the more they get out of science the more discoveries and more progress science makes.
IT AKES A SMALL MIND TO USE A MURDER THAT HAPPENED 600 YEARS AGO AND USE IT TO INSULT BELIEVERS TODAY.
THANKS TO YOUR SCIENCE WE ARE BETTER INFORMED TODAY THAT WHEN BRUNO MET HIS DEMISE.
TODAY I HEAR THE NORTH KOREAN DICTOR HAS MANY PEOPLE KILLED BECAUSE THEY MADE PORNO FLICKS. NO WHAT HE AINT NO CHRISTIAN.
MAYBE 600 YEARS FROM NOW SOMEONE WILL USE TODAYS EVENT TO TRY AND BOLSTER A POINT
THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH ACCEPTING SCIENCE AND HAVING FAITH. THE FACT THAT SOME CAN DO IT SPEAKS GREATLY OF THEM.
AN ATHEIST HAS NO BELIEF AS THEIR HEART DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILTY TO BELIEVE IN FAITH.
MY DEARLY DEAPRTED UNCLE BENNY CALLED THAT KNOW IT ALL AND NOT KNOWING SHIT

Since: May 13

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#5190 Aug 29, 2013
Anti Theist, False religion is angry because our belief in God riles something deep within him.
I don't think he Hates us. I know I hate no one.
May dislike their ways. ;)

Since: May 13

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#5191 Aug 29, 2013
PBP please read comment posted by Evolution man.
Mom also tells me; " In your daily life You need to know what you're dealing with. Especially to solve a problem."
Well auntie is anti religion. We knew that though. Please read the post it's very enlightening.

Not all atheists are or feel that way. I'm not responding any longer especially since those that have " dealt" with him actually say such.

From here on out. Getting and staying on track. Are you with me?

Since: May 13

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#5192 Aug 29, 2013
I want to share this with those who truly want to read it.

Ways to deepened our Faith. With everything going crazy right now. I know I definitely need to study and read it myself.

Hope all you Believers enjoy it.:)

Since: May 13

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#5193 Aug 29, 2013
Eight Ways to Increase Your Faith in God

By Marcia Pope, RN

The Bible tells us we have all been given a measure of faith (Romans 12:3), and that faith comes from God. Faith is believing in God and trusting in Him regardless of the circumstances or influences around us. Sometimes we find this easy to do but many times life's dilemmas can cause our faith to weaken or fail, especially during times of sadness, loneliness, sickness, pain, depression, deprivation or fear. Although it may be hard to understand, without these struggles our faith in God would never increase. If your faith level has been low lately here are some suggestions that may be of help to you.

1) Stop worrying.
You were not created to worry and fret. The Lord wants you to be at peace. Worrying will not solve your problems. It will only drain you. God invites you to cast your burdens upon Him (Psalms 55:22). He not only cares for you, but He is far better at handling the weight of your problems. He will not abandon you in the midst of your struggles for He has promised to never leave or forsake you (Heb. 13:5)

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