ewww

United States

#122 Feb 2, 2013
[QUOTE who="Mr.Blackstone"] <quoted text>
Maybe you should be shot for your bigotry , ignorance , homophobia , and threat of violence towards whom are different than you.[/QUOTE]

Different than me? Ha. Im NORMAL. Oh wait ...im speaking against gays ...thats right. Boycott me as yall all did chickfale hahaha get real. Everyone is entitled to their opinions
Well put

United States

#123 Feb 2, 2013
Eww wrote:
No. Gays are a different breed and they shouldnt be allowed on earth much less in Heaven. Something is wrong with this generation. Guys with guys girls with girls hell even the damn animals are said to be gay now. Get a real life. Find the opposite sex and be merry. Stop this nasty nonsense. They should be shot for being so stupid. This is what's wrong with the world
Don't let anyone put you down. Stand strong for your beliefs. They are correct and the right way. America is supposed to be about freedom of speech and everyone loves to throw that out there when it helps them but when they don't like it they are quick to say so. As for the one who claims you are threatening gays, you never said you would shoot them yourself. They are only angry. Stay just as you are. You're very strong willed and stand up for what you believe in as they are doing.
SMH

Dyersburg, TN

#124 Feb 2, 2013
And while you people are handing out judgement.... How many of you are working on your second marriage??
Well put

United States

#125 Feb 2, 2013
SMH wrote:
And while you people are handing out judgement.... How many of you are working on your second marriage??
Been married 27 years to the same MAN. Thanks
GBS34

Jackson, TN

#126 Feb 2, 2013
Even if there is a passage or few in some holy book that allows me to shift responsibility for my thoughts to some deity or another, I wish I had nothing better to do than talk about how wrong I think it is that other people should have relationships that are not the way I want them to be.

I wish I had nothing better to do than tell people how sinful their lives are.

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#127 Feb 2, 2013
Struggling wrote:
Do you believe unrepentant homosexuals will be allowed in Heaven? Why or why not?
Thanks
I don't know King Solomon loved other gods, do you think he will be in heaven?
Birdy

Cedar Rapids, IA

#128 Feb 2, 2013
cpaynesr wrote:
"Keep on asking, and you will receive what you ask for. Keep on seeking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened to you.
I think that verse applies to someone asking for guidance or salvation for themselves or others.

...'cause I've been asking to win the "lottery" for over 50 years and I haven't won yet.
guest

Duluth, GA

#129 Feb 2, 2013
According to Reason wrote:
I don't go off on people, I refute claims.

This feeling you felt how exactly did you know it originated from a deity? By what means did you test this feeling and determine that it was not coming from your own imagination?

Could it be that this nice feeling you describe as love was ascribed to a god because, as you say, that is what your parents raised you to think?

Why do you feel guilty about not going to a church? Guilt usually follows from the empathy felt after causing harm to someone. What harm or injury have you caused by not attending a gathering of people?

Why would ask god for anything even if you lived exactly how you think your religion says you should? Does your god no supposedly know everything that ever will happen? Does anything ever happen that is contrary to gods plan? If so, what good is praying, god's plan will happen regardless of what anyone wants or asks.

If someone was 'in my path' that 'made a difference' it would not prove your god is real. This is a common error made by religious people, pointing to a chance event which results in a positive outcome and claiming, without any reason, that it must be a sign from god. How could that claim be tested, how would I know that my encounter with this person was not just good luck. What if I have a negative encounter? Would that be from god maybe? His way of punishing one of his beloved creations for doubting what cannot be empirically tested?

If you did condemn me it would not bother me. I am confident that I have done nothing to warrant your condemnation. Your sadness is of your own making, based upon an assumption that your religion is correct without evidence.

I'm saddened that you might waste your entire life under the guise of a myth, constantly worrying about pleasing an all seeing dictator with the power to torment you for eternity should he deem you 'unworthy of his love'. Never knowing the joy of unencumbered free thought and inquiry, the freedom of the mind.

Let me be clear, I do not deny the existence of anything. I simply do not think the theist has met their burden of proof. In the absence of evidence, as well as the mountains of evidence to the contrary, I refuse to believe any of the extraordinary claims made by your religion.

The full moon and the sunset are not evidence of god, we know how those things work and they do not require divine intervention.

You haven't offended me.
You covered so much, and you're obviously very smart. You thought of things I never gave any thought to whatsoever. You have some very legitimate questions, and I have one answer to all you said. Faith.
guest

Duluth, GA

#130 Feb 2, 2013
GBS34 wrote:
Even if there is a passage or few in some holy book that allows me to shift responsibility for my thoughts to some deity or another, I wish I had nothing better to do than talk about how wrong I think it is that other people should have relationships that are not the way I want them to be.

I wish I had nothing better to do than tell people how sinful their lives are.
Hmmmm.....excuse us all, but if you will read the subject of this thread?? This person asked for opinions. Geez.
Birdy

Cedar Rapids, IA

#131 Feb 2, 2013
justAguy wrote:
How do u know this "heaven" place is real? And if it is how do you know homosexuals want to even go?
If I believed that there was no Heaven (rewards/peace/happiness) and no hell (punishment/torture/misery) then I would be out there killing and stealing and every other nasty behavior because being good or nice would be useless.
In contrast

United States

#132 Feb 2, 2013
Birdy wrote:
<quoted text>
If I believed that there was no Heaven (rewards/peace/happiness) and no hell (punishment/torture/misery) then I would be out there killing and stealing and every other nasty behavior because being good or nice would be useless.
Or you don't like jail/prison.
Anonymous

Jackson, TN

#133 Feb 2, 2013
Birdy wrote:
<quoted text>
If I believed that there was no Heaven (rewards/peace/happiness) and no hell (punishment/torture/misery) then I would be out there killing and stealing and every other nasty behavior because being good or nice would be useless.
Whewww, I've been an atheist and the biggest thing I've gotten is a speeding ticket.

I treat others the way I want to be treated. Plain and simple.
Mr.Blackstone

Manchester, TN

#134 Feb 3, 2013
Well put wrote:
<quoted text>Don't let anyone put you down. Stand strong for your beliefs. They are correct and the right way. America is supposed to be about freedom of speech and everyone loves to throw that out there when it helps them but when they don't like it they are quick to say so. As for the one who claims you are threatening gays, you never said you would shoot them yourself. They are only angry. Stay just as you are. You're very strong willed and stand up for what you believe in as they are doing.
So if I were to believe that we should bring back slavery I should stand up for these beliefs? And if I don't like a certain group of people it's ok to promote intolerance and say that we should just kill (shoot) them?
Mr.Blackstone

Manchester, TN

#135 Feb 3, 2013
Birdy wrote:
<quoted text>If I believed that there was no Heaven (rewards/peace/happiness) and no hell (punishment/torture/misery) then I would be out there killing and stealing and every other nasty behavior because being good or nice would be useless.
So you're only good and do good deeds because you think you will be rewarded. Not because you're doing good to just out of the goodness of your heart. Pretty shallow of a person you must be.

That's like going down to the homeless shelter and feeding them only to ask them later what are they going to do for you, because apparently you expect to be rewarded.

I have 2 people living in my house at this moment that are homeless with out my help. I'm not helping them because I expect to be getting brownie points with god, nor am I helping them out because I think I will be rewarded for doing it. Even though its put a little bit of strain on my finances and my home life, I do it because if I am able to help someone then I will.

So how would my choices here be , as you put it , useless because I don't believe in the afterlife? According to the bible I am destined for hell anyways for apostasy and blasphemy.

Though if you think about it , faith of the after life, doesn't stop priest from molesting kids, doesn't stop religious people from committing murders ,theft , rape , etc.

With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
Steven Weinberg
Birdy

Cedar Rapids, IA

#136 Feb 3, 2013
EvolutionMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Whewww, I've been an atheist and the biggest thing I've gotten is a speeding ticket.
I treat others the way I want to be treated. Plain and simple.
I always treat others like I would like to be treated but it has done nothing but bite me in the ass. I've been used to the point where I'm always angry and broke. If I didn't believe that there was a higher power keeping track and will reward the good and punish the bad I would stop doing good altogether.
Birdy

Cedar Rapids, IA

#137 Feb 3, 2013
[QUOTE who="Mr.Blackstone"] <quoted text>
I have 2 people living in my house at this moment that are homeless with out my help. I'm not helping them because I expect to be getting brownie points with god, nor am I helping them out because I think I will be rewarded for doing it. Even though its put a little bit of strain on my finances and my home life, I do it because if I am able to help someone then I will.

So how would my choices here be , as you put it , useless because I don't believe in the afterlife?[/QUOTE]

I've been taking the "homeless" into my own home for years. I fed them, bought them clothes and supplies, treated them like family.
It is a big strain on my finances for sure. My property has been used and sometimes destroyed. All the people I helped have gone on and not a single one was there for me when I needed help. Yet, I still take the "homeless" in along with every stray cat and dog.
If I didn't believe that there was a higher power giving me some sort of credit for what I do then I would stop doing it.
Birdy

Cedar Rapids, IA

#138 Feb 3, 2013
[QUOTE who="Mr.Blackstone"] <quoted text>
Though if you think about it , faith of the after life, doesn't stop priest from molesting kids, doesn't stop religious people from committing murders ,theft , rape , etc.
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.[/QUOTE]

Non religious people commit crimes too and those "religious" people who commit those crimes are just non-religious people hiding behind a particular religion. If they truly believed in God they wouldn't do those things. And Catholicism isn't a "Christian" religion. Never was. Never will be. They are pagans hiding behind the skirts of Christianity. As Jesus said: "You will know them by their fruits."
Anonymous

Jackson, TN

#139 Feb 3, 2013
Birdy wrote:
<quoted text>
I've been taking the "homeless" into my own home for years. I fed them, bought them clothes and supplies, treated them like family.
It is a big strain on my finances for sure. My property has been used and sometimes destroyed. All the people I helped have gone on and not a single one was there for me when I needed help. Yet, I still take the "homeless" in along with every stray cat and dog.
If I didn't believe that there was a higher power giving me some sort of credit for what I do then I would stop doing it.
Just shows that you have some real soul searching to do, if the only reason you do good is fear of a higher power, then you have much more problems than you realize.
Birdy

Cedar Rapids, IA

#140 Feb 3, 2013
EvolutionMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Just shows that you have some real soul searching to do, if the only reason you do good is fear of a higher power, then you have much more problems than you realize.
The Bible says that "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom". Maybe if more people had a healthy fear of God they would think twice before they do something evil.
Mr.Blackstone

Manchester, TN

#142 Feb 3, 2013
Birdy wrote:
[QUOTE who="Mr.Blackstone"] <quoted text>
I have 2 people living in my house at this moment that are homeless with out my help. I'm not helping them because I expect to be getting brownie points with god, nor am I helping them out because I think I will be rewarded for doing it. Even though its put a little bit of strain on my finances and my home life, I do it because if I am able to help someone then I will.

So how would my choices here be , as you put it , useless because I don't believe in the afterlife? "

I've been taking the "homeless" into my own home for years. I fed them, bought them clothes and supplies, treated them like family.
It is a big strain on my finances for sure. My property has been used and sometimes destroyed. All the people I helped have gone on and not a single one was there for me when I needed help. Yet, I still take the "homeless" in along with every stray cat and dog.
If I didn't believe that there was a higher power giving me some sort of credit for what I do then I would stop doing it.
Then by your own omission you are not a good person because you genuinely care , you are only good because you think it will make god happy. Thus making you disingenuously good. Why would god want someone who did not do good things out of the kindness of their heart but only because you feel obligated to make god happy?

I'm only a good parent because I believe that it makes god happy not because I want to be a good parent.

I'm only a good neighbor because I believe it makes god happy not because I want to be a good neighbor and respect my own neighbors.

I'm only a faithful husband or wife because I believe it will make god happy, not because I genuinely want to be a faithful husband or wife.

Your religion has not made you into a genuinely good person. You just use it to pretend that you are because you feel obligated to do good only for the sake of god and not for the sake of good itself.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Jackson Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News Pastor stands against same-sex marriage 17 min proudly fictional 265
Boob Play 30 min Boob lover 1
Englewood Easter Ball Park Show 52 min Auntie Theist 71
Who is Steve Bowers? 1 hr Mel 14
viagre 1 hr guest 3
Josh Brown 6 hr Anonymous 22
Rob Allen 8 hr Speaking the Truth 12
Mr.FuckAnything 10 hr yonig 11
Scandal at TCA 11 hr McNasty 14
Bank of Jackson shooting Fri friend 31

Freeze Watch for Madison County was issued at March 28 at 3:18AM CDT

Jackson Dating
Find my Match
More from around the web

Jackson People Search

Addresses and phone numbers for FREE

Personal Finance

Mortgages [ See current mortgage rates ]