Englewood Baptist Church Financial Su...

Englewood Baptist Church Financial Summary

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Financial Responsibility

Jackson, TN

#1 May 23, 2011
I have the latest EBC Financial Summary Report for April 2011. Digest these figures for a moment.

Operating Fund Summary (Year to Date)

Tithes and Offerings:$3,889,925.46

Expenses

Operations $1,411,619.72
Programs $1,288,876.06
Debt Service $ 456,003.15
Missions $ 269,411.93
Capital Improvements $ 37,500.03

Total Expenses $3,463,410.89

Net Income $ 426,514.57

Debt Summary $5,199,436.03

Borrowed 130,167.98

Current Debt Balance $5,329,604.01
Wow

Jackson, TN

#2 May 23, 2011
Those are some interesting numbers. I wonder what is all buried in operations and programs. I assume salaries are in operations.
Pyramid

United States

#3 May 23, 2011
This financial summary says all you need to know about EBC and their high salaries for Ben, Travis, and Paul and maybe one or two more.

Come on, 6% is all you can seem to give to missions. 94% gets eaten up in house. Most charities would be shut down if they kept more than 15% in house yet this church keeps an astounding 94% in house.

Oh well, you don't live the affluent lifestyle of the Mandrells on any less than 250k a year. Must be nice to cancel all the Sunday night services for the summer and jet off to Disney World. You people who enable this lifestyle are sad.

Since: Feb 11

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#4 May 23, 2011
Jesus servant wrote:
Listen Free Thinker why dont you put your hand in a flame and see how long you can hold it there and then shut up about your crazy ideas...
Now that wouldn't prove your god real now would it. It would only prove that you are psychopathic for enjoying the thought of me doing something so sadistic and painful. You are the prime example of what religious dogma and credulous thinking do to good people. In an ordinary moral world good people will do the best they can, evil people will do the worst they can, but if you want good people to do evil things you need religion.

I don't honestly think you really want me to do burn myself. I really think you are angry at being pressed on your beliefs. You say I have crazy ideas, please tell me how my questions are crazy. Explain your accusations when you make them or don't make them.

This is a public forum and so long as you are not the owner of this web site I will continue to voice my questions and call things like I see it. I don't insist on your silence, why would you not return the favor.

Since: Feb 11

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#5 May 23, 2011
"You're basically killing each other to see who's got the better imaginary friend." - Richard Jeni

"You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep-seated need to believe." - Carl Sagan
Christians and Debt

Jackson, TN

#6 May 23, 2011
How can you not read this and not be outraged if your actually giving monies to this immoral ministry. Immoral because of the obvious chump change they actually give to missions (reaching the lost).

Also outrageous is the the fact EBC had net income of 426k but still felt the need to borrow 130K in April. I mean what the hell is going on inside this place with their finances.
Financial Responsibility wrote:
I have the latest EBC Financial Summary Report for April 2011. Digest these figures for a moment.
Operating Fund Summary (Year to Date)
Tithes and Offerings:$3,889,925.46
Expenses
Operations $1,411,619.72
Programs $1,288,876.06
Debt Service $ 456,003.15
Missions $ 269,411.93
Capital Improvements $ 37,500.03
Total Expenses $3,463,410.89
Net Income $ 426,514.57
Debt Summary $5,199,436.03
Borrowed 130,167.98
Current Debt Balance $5,329,604.01
WJBC

Jackson, TN

#7 May 23, 2011
All the trappings of another West Jackson Baptist Church debt ridden train wreck.

What is the preacher's salary, anyonw who goes there have any idea?
Financial Responsibility wrote:
I have the latest EBC Financial Summary Report for April 2011. Digest these figures for a moment.
Operating Fund Summary (Year to Date)
Tithes and Offerings:$3,889,925.46
Expenses
Operations $1,411,619.72
Programs $1,288,876.06
Debt Service $ 456,003.15
Missions $ 269,411.93
Capital Improvements $ 37,500.03
Total Expenses $3,463,410.89
Net Income $ 426,514.57
Debt Summary $5,199,436.03
Borrowed 130,167.98
Current Debt Balance $5,329,604.01

Since: Feb 11

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#8 May 23, 2011
^Christian and Debt,

It's immoral because they take money in exchange for presenting an illusion of reality. It is immoral because they take the money in exchange for convincing the members that some invisible sky daddy will be pleased with them. It is immoral because it is a lie but it doesn't matter, the credulous get their fix and Ben gets to live like a big shot.

Your fight to convince the church members not to give money is like convincing a crack addict not to take another hit. The crack addict feels good when he takes the hit and the credulous person feels good when he's told his donation puts him in favor with god. It's a powerful correlation and I don't think they will give it up because you post the truth on Topix.

You can already see the mechanism by which the god virus defends itself; a version of the boogie man they call "the devil". Anything which threatens to uncloak the empty promises, the baseless belief, the extraordinary claims, will be attacked and dismissed without thought as the words of "the devil". It's a formidable defense as it draws out the persons emotions and inhibits rational thought.
carbon copy

United States

#9 May 23, 2011
I wish a certain idiot would come up with their own original thoughts, quotes and words for posting on here. For the love of God, STOP copying and pasting.

Since: Feb 11

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#10 May 23, 2011
Just in case your talking to me, there was nothing copy and paste about that last post.

I got a wish too. I wish certain people would stop crying like girls and avoiding the issue. It's just a discussion but your cowering on the side lines and avoiding main point. Stop running away.

Since: Feb 11

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#11 May 24, 2011
I wish a certain idiot would come up with their own original thoughts, quotes and words for posting on here. For the love of God, STOP copying and pasting.

lol...
TV Evangelist

Jackson, TN

#12 May 24, 2011
Where are all the faithful Englewood members and supporters??????

I guess it is sorda hard to defend this ponzi where only those at the top PROFIT for JESUS.
Member

Jackson, TN

#13 May 24, 2011
I am member and not happy about the finances at all as well as a lot of people.
TV Evangelist wrote:
Where are all the faithful Englewood members and supporters??????
I guess it is sorda hard to defend this ponzi where only those at the top PROFIT for JESUS.
Member 2

Jackson, TN

#14 May 24, 2011
I stopped giving them a penny until they start releasing an actual financial report like evry other charity. I refuse to support the affluent lifestyle of a 34 yr old preacher who does little more than preach on Sunday mornings and Sunday nights (except in the summer when they cancel all Sunday evening services).
Member wrote:
I am member and not happy about the finances at all as well as a lot of people.
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Open The Books

Jackson, TN

#15 May 25, 2011
It is simple, the senior leadership is ripping off GOD and unfortunately the church members are letting it happen. Almost always, bullying, threats, etc. come to any who dare question.

Since: Feb 11

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#16 May 25, 2011
Open The Books wrote:
It is simple, the senior leadership is ripping off GOD and unfortunately the church members are letting it happen. Almost always, bullying, threats, etc. come to any who dare question.
Wait a minute ....[CRYING LAUGHING].... OK I'm back now. Did you say ripping off GOD? The GOD? The same one you claim "owns" the entire cosmos right? I'm trying to wrap my head around that absurd assertion. If you were to claim that the people are being ripped off I could understand, they worked for that money, but God? Gotta call BS on that one pal.

Since: Feb 11

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#17 May 25, 2011
If God willing to prevent people ripping him off, but not able, then he is not omnipotent.

If he able to prevent people ripping him off, but not willing, then he is apathetic.

If he both able and willing to prevent people from ripping him off then how does Ben get away with it?

If he neither able nor willing to stop people from ripping him off then why call him God?
Dickens

Ripley, TN

#18 May 25, 2011
FreeThinker82 wrote:
If God willing to prevent people ripping him off, but not able, then he is not omnipotent.
If he able to prevent people ripping him off, but not willing, then he is apathetic.
If he both able and willing to prevent people from ripping him off then how does Ben get away with it?
If he neither able nor willing to stop people from ripping him off then why call him God?
FT, you're having a Field Day with this, aren't you! I can just picture you grinning like the Cheshire Cat.

:)

Since: Feb 11

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#19 May 25, 2011
^You know me so well don't you Dickens.(GRIN!!!)
Your Not That Smart

Jackson, TN

#20 May 25, 2011
Simple, he chooses not to at this time.
FreeThinker82 wrote:
If God willing to prevent people ripping him off, but not able, then he is not omnipotent.
If he able to prevent people ripping him off, but not willing, then he is apathetic.
If he both able and willing to prevent people from ripping him off then how does Ben get away with it?
If he neither able nor willing to stop people from ripping him off then why call him God?

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