Pastor Ben Mandrell's Personal Security Shadow

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Gods girl

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Nov 14, 2012
 

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I go to EBC and last time I checked I go there to worship the Lord not Ben Mandrell. I enjoy hearing him preach but I also enjoy my Sunday class and many other reasons is why I go there...... I can't believe that y'all can't find anything else better to do that sit around a judge a man. Ben has to answer to God for what he does, and as Christians if we're busy loving others and doing Gods work we wouldnt have time to be critical of others, or wouldn't care so much about the chapel capacity or Bens personal security shadow. If you had of been at church on sunday you would of heard the message on loving others........ It was a good message we all should put Into practice. Then we wouldn't having these bashing sites.......... I'm just sayin!!!!
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#23
Nov 14, 2012
 
Do you think it is appropriate your pastor has a security staffer paid by donations with him at all times when he is on church property?
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I go to EBC and last time I checked I go there to worship the Lord not Ben Mandrell. I enjoy hearing him preach but I also enjoy my Sunday class and many other reasons is why I go there...... I can't believe that y'all can't find anything else better to do that sit around a judge a man. Ben has to answer to God for what he does, and as Christians if we're busy loving others and doing Gods work we wouldnt have time to be critical of others, or wouldn't care so much about the chapel capacity or Bens personal security shadow. If you had of been at church on sunday you would of heard the message on loving others........ It was a good message we all should put Into practice. Then we wouldn't having these bashing sites.......... I'm just sayin!!!!
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I really don't care either way personally. That's not why I go to church there. You could go to any church and find something to be critical about.
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Nov 15, 2012
 
Ok, I think I understand. As long as the "performance" is entertaining aka worshipful for you then you"re not really concerned about all the other stuff. It is ok, you're just like the other 90% who go there. You are the perfect type they covet for membership aka the smile have fun and ask NO Questions....

However, Jesus was concerned about the inner workings and how the used the church including money, etc. His anger was evident when he flipped the tables......
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I really don't care either way personally. That's not why I go to church there. You could go to any church and find something to be critical about.
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Actually I think Jesus is most concerned with the heart and if you're growing spiritually. Which is why I go there. I've been to many others churches and there is not one that is perfect. I don't go for a show. I go to get closer to God!! Is it perfect no. There will not be a perfect one we live in a fallen world but I hope to be a light in the darkness and be different from the world.... I'm not going to look for things to complain about. I'm just going to go and worship my God. I'm sorry u have a problem with that. But I'm going to answer to God about my heart and if I spreaded Gods love.
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Like the other person said, you are a perfect fit for Englewood. Enjoy those worship songs and expository preaching and whatever you do, do not question anythin even the absurd like a personal security guard for your pastor.
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Actually I think Jesus is most concerned with the heart and if you're growing spiritually. Which is why I go there. I've been to many others churches and there is not one that is perfect. I don't go for a show. I go to get closer to God!! Is it perfect no. There will not be a perfect one we live in a fallen world but I hope to be a light in the darkness and be different from the world.... I'm not going to look for things to complain about. I'm just going to go and worship my God. I'm sorry u have a problem with that. But I'm going to answer to God about my heart and if I spreaded Gods love.
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#28
Nov 15, 2012
 
What kind of church is this? Are the sheep so violent that the good reverend is afraid of bodily harm from his own blind followers?

Another Fort God...Monuments to man.
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#29
Nov 15, 2012
 
You hit the nail on the head!!!!

The leaders have done nothing but reduce their tasks and hire more adminstrative assistannts. Ask yourself why Ben chose to not announce his reduced Sunday night schedule to the church? Yes, he made the decision to not announce it! The church all ready cancels Sunday night services for over 3 months in the summer each year.

Ben was peddling a for profit/access trip to Israel, Travis has one in NYC this month he peddled to the choir.

The one that takes the cake is his security agent who follows him all around the church. You know that is all show because if he was really in "danger" he would have him with him when he is out shopping or at home.

I'd be willing to deduct most of these members have less an understanding of the Bible than a 3rd grade Awana student but hey, the music and choir are awesome and Ben preaches a great message, regardless if I ever follow it.
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Like the other person said, you are a perfect fit for Englewood. Enjoy those worship songs and expository preaching and whatever you do, do not question anythin even the absurd like a personal security guard for your pastor.
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Not sure about the pastor, but it's pretty stupid you all need a traffic guide just to get out of church. Not my fault you all wanted to go to church, and it shouldn't affect my travel.
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#31
Nov 16, 2012
 
Yep nothing like the church paying a bld owner who leases to bars to direct traffic.....
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Not sure about the pastor, but it's pretty stupid you all need a traffic guide just to get out of church. Not my fault you all wanted to go to church, and it shouldn't affect my travel.
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#32
Nov 16, 2012
 
Ever thought it might just be a coverup. You know, gay for pay security officer? Sounds like a good plot to me.
Just Another Perk For Ben

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#33
Dec 8, 2012
 
Heard he is receiving weekly if not daily threats and thats why he has a personal security detail. All this makes me lol becuase there is NO WAY he is receiving weekly threats, much less ONE CREDIBLE THREAT because if he was the police, FBI, etc. would be involved!

How much does this PERK cost the members????? Next thing is he will only ride around in a popemobile type vehicle???????
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I see not a lot has changed since I left 18 months ago. The security person makes me lol. Rest assured it is all for his ego as well as perceived image and status. If it were for real threats then he would have him away from the church.
In just over a year or two his side ministry will be in full swing and EBC will be left with nothing more than a part time preacher and music man.....
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#34
Dec 8, 2012
 
Neighbors go to this church. Even they are beginning to see the sham Ben is pulling along with Travis and their "other jobs".......

Anyone want to go to NC and PAY to hear Travis sing, anyone, anyone?????? Don't worry, Ben will be back in NC soon.
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#35
Dec 10, 2012
 
How much did the church people have to pay for that professional Xmas card........

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#36
Dec 10, 2012
 
These poor ppl at this church don't even see what is going on. They think that everything is ok and don't think that he is spending any of their tithe money on his own personal wants. That is one church I do not want to go to... It sounds like there is too much going on.
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#37
Dec 10, 2012
 
So has he rescheduled the holy land trip?
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#38
Dec 10, 2012
 
Also, anybody know if FEMA is paying for the hired muscle?
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#39
Dec 11, 2012
 
Or do you get the feeling this church is going to get burned bad by Ben and Travis?

These two spend the majority of their time and energy on outside aka non EBC projects. They seem to be just using this church to promote all their "other ministry jobs".

What happened to the promise Ben made almost 2 years ago when Travis was hired......you know the one where he said Travis will be reducing his outside projects to focus more on his position at church. Well you know now that did not materialize. Travis is doing the same if not more outside jobs than when he arrived.

Go ahead build the bigger worship bldg while the chapel reamins virtually empty. Stop being involved in Sunday night's because you are stressed because of all your other non church projects. Go ahead and cancel Sunday nights all thogether like you already do for the 3 months in summer.

And when the people finally see you two money hungry ego's for what you really are, you can simply take your for profit, family ministry show on the road.

Time for this church to hire a FULL TIME pastor and music minister rather than settling for these part time hired guns.

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Dec 11, 2012
 
Mandrell Xmas Card wrote:
How much did the church people have to pay for that professional Xmas card........
You are ridiculous! Jealous much? You too can have a Christmas card made. Take a picture and go to Walgreens or Wal-mart and have cards printed. Get a life and find something else to do besides nitpick.
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#41
Dec 11, 2012
 
The Mandrell's did NOT do what you suggest below.....look at the back of their card......
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<quoted text>You are ridiculous! Jealous much? You too can have a Christmas card made. Take a picture and go to Walgreens or Wal-mart and have cards printed. Get a life and find something else to do besides nitpick.

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