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Justwondering

Knoxville, TN

#1 Aug 20, 2012
Haven't been in town since university of Memphis took over the lambuth campus. Anyone care to inform me of the progress, programs, enrollment numbers, and if it's helping that neighborhood at all. Just curious and any feedback would be great. Thanks!!
P.S. Any chance they will restart intercollegiate athletics in the near future if it grows?
guest

Jackson, TN

#2 Aug 20, 2012
http://memphis.edu/lambuth/ is their website and has all that info. According to what has been mentioned on radio, tv, etc. they will start up intermural sports but no future plans for anything else. The softball field has been given back to the lions club I think, Madison High is using the baseball field, and I have heard talk of the football field being used by Madison and JCM for soccer.
yes

Jackson, TN

#3 Aug 21, 2012
The website has all the info you requested except for enrollment figures, whch are as follows: 600 total enrollment, with about 60 living on-campus.

U of M is allowing the J-MCSS to use the sports facilities.
Ben

Jackson, TN

#4 Aug 21, 2012
Part of the agreement with the state of Tennessee when the whole deal was inked was that U of M would not have an athletic program on the Jackson Campus. I believe 5 years is the agreement. After that, who knows.
Justwondering

Knoxville, TN

#5 Aug 21, 2012
Very good info. Thanks for the word up on the new campus
Justwondering

Knoxville, TN

#6 Aug 21, 2012
p.s. just curious as to why they signed a clause to not play athletics. Is it because that's what ultimately drove Lambuth in the ground, or was the UofM afraid that they could beat their football team with a bunch of scrubs?
really

Jackson, TN

#7 Aug 21, 2012
Justwondering wrote:
p.s. just curious as to why they signed a clause to not play athletics. Is it because that's what ultimately drove Lambuth in the ground, or was the UofM afraid that they could beat their football team with a bunch of scrubs?
yeah, so how's UT doin up there in football?

f*ckin Vol Troll
Justwondering

Knoxville, TN

#11 Aug 21, 2012
I didn't know you were a Tiger fan, how do you know I'm a Vol fan? I am, but I've probably been to more Memphis football games in my 22 years than you have in your sad life. But either way, Memphis football is beyond bad right now. I know people that play football there, you do not. So shut up and let people that know their shit, state their shit.. Thanks for the information on the school, it's very vital that Midtown Jackson not fall any further than it has. Plus, a bad UT football team would whip a mediocre Memphis football team. But either way, Justin Fuente might get it turned around. I also know Larry Porter's son too. So, I think I'm around both programs enough to comment on them how I damn well feel to. But either way, I don't give a damn. Just because I'm logged into a computer in Knoxville, doesn't mean shit for who I'm a fan of... Seeing as how their are more VOL fans in Memphis, then Tigers fans.

I do hope the UofM decides to restart athletics at Lambuth at some point, but who knows
Good Day

I'm always WINNING
guest

Jackson, TN

#12 Aug 21, 2012
Justwondering wrote:
p.s. just curious as to why they signed a clause to not play athletics. Is it because that's what ultimately drove Lambuth in the ground, or was the UofM afraid that they could beat their football team with a bunch of scrubs?
Athletics is not the only thing that lead to Lambuth's closing. It was, however, a big part of it. It was all around years of monetary mismanagement by the administration. I have heard a story about how a woman that went to Lambuth in the 50's left around 2 million dollars to the school for the library when she died around 2003. The admin at Lambuth refused to use it for the library saying that it should be used for upgrading the football facility (which at the time was their big push to throw money at the team and turn it into a NAIA power). The woman's son then gave it to his alma mater, Union, since Lambuth refused his mother's last wishes.

I believe the reason for not playing sports at Lambuth now or in the future is because the money that was given to buy and start up the campus was not in the original budget last year and the state assembly made that happen in tat special session. Now Lambuth comes out of U of M's existing yearly budget and it's more important to get the school up on it's feet and growing (which it is every semester so far) instead of playing sports, which would more than likely be at the NAIA level like before.

Don't get me wrong I graduated from Lambuth and enjoyed going to the games every year, but I'd rather see the school prosper and give something positive back to the LANA area which Lambuth University had forgotten they were the biggest part of.
really

Jackson, TN

#13 Aug 21, 2012
Justwondering wrote:
I didn't know you were a Tiger fan, how do you know I'm a Vol fan? I am, but I've probably been to more Memphis football games in my 22 years than you have in your sad life. But either way, Memphis football is beyond bad right now. I know people that play football there, you do not. So shut up and let people that know their shit, state their shit.. Thanks for the information on the school, it's very vital that Midtown Jackson not fall any further than it has. Plus, a bad UT football team would whip a mediocre Memphis football team. But either way, Justin Fuente might get it turned around. I also know Larry Porter's son too. So, I think I'm around both programs enough to comment on them how I damn well feel to. But either way, I don't give a damn. Just because I'm logged into a computer in Knoxville, doesn't mean shit for who I'm a fan of... Seeing as how their are more VOL fans in Memphis, then Tigers fans.
I do hope the UofM decides to restart athletics at Lambuth at some point, but who knows
Good Day
I'm always WINNING
Yeah, sure, your most recent post sounds reasonable enough.....explain post #6, bitch.
Justwondering

Knoxville, TN

#15 Aug 22, 2012
guest wrote:
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Athletics is not the only thing that lead to Lambuth's closing. It was, however, a big part of it. It was all around years of monetary mismanagement by the administration. I have heard a story about how a woman that went to Lambuth in the 50's left around 2 million dollars to the school for the library when she died around 2003. The admin at Lambuth refused to use it for the library saying that it should be used for upgrading the football facility (which at the time was their big push to throw money at the team and turn it into a NAIA power). The woman's son then gave it to his alma mater, Union, since Lambuth refused his mother's last wishes.
I believe the reason for not playing sports at Lambuth now or in the future is because the money that was given to buy and start up the campus was not in the original budget last year and the state assembly made that happen in tat special session. Now Lambuth comes out of U of M's existing yearly budget and it's more important to get the school up on it's feet and growing (which it is every semester so far) instead of playing sports, which would more than likely be at the NAIA level like before.
Don't get me wrong I graduated from Lambuth and enjoyed going to the games every year, but I'd rather see the school prosper and give something positive back to the LANA area which Lambuth University had forgotten they were the biggest part of.
Oh ok, that clears a lot up. No reason to piss off rich alumni, and you're probably right. They need to take it slow in reincorporating athletics.. Weren't they transitioning to NCAA division II? They even beat a team that's going Division I in 2013. But, I understand working on getting enrollment up and adding new programs to the curriculum is important first. Isn't it true one reason Union passed Lambuth was Lambuth's resistance to add a nursing program, Which will attract a lot of students?
guest

Jackson, TN

#16 Aug 22, 2012
Justwondering wrote:
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Oh ok, that clears a lot up. No reason to piss off rich alumni, and you're probably right. They need to take it slow in reincorporating athletics.. Weren't they transitioning to NCAA division II? They even beat a team that's going Division I in 2013. But, I understand working on getting enrollment up and adding new programs to the curriculum is important first. Isn't it true one reason Union passed Lambuth was Lambuth's resistance to add a nursing program, Which will attract a lot of students?
They had started a transition as a probationary member of the Gulf South Conference and were in reality a glorified NAIA independent. The NCAA and the GSC had extended their probation because of the accredidation and money issues. Their spot in the GSC is being taken over by Union, which joins this year.

Nursing has been at Union since at least the 60's I believe, my aunt went there for nursing. But yes, Lambuth for whatever reason during the big medical major boom of recent years,(nursing, x-ray tech, pt assistant, etc. that Union and JSCC have jumped all over) chose to do nothing to grow enrollment and expand the fields of study. Nursing is one of the majors at UM-L now from what I have heard.
kim

Savannah, TN

#17 Aug 22, 2012
Lambuth chose to focus on liberal arts programs, and not vocation specific programs.
Justwondering

Knoxville, TN

#18 Aug 22, 2012
kim wrote:
Lambuth chose to focus on liberal arts programs, and not vocation specific programs.
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Yea, that's what it seems from the info I've gotten. To bad they didn't see the importance of starting a nursing program, which could have saved it. But, either way, I just hope the best for the area surrounding the campus. The last thing it needs is a vacant lot. Any chance do you know if the new students are taking up residence in the area, or is it mainly commuter at this point?
guest

Jackson, TN

#19 Aug 22, 2012
kim wrote:
Lambuth chose to focus on liberal arts programs, and not vocation specific programs.
Kim is right, Lambuth made the whole push to be a "liberal arts" college years ago. Memphis made sure to always mention that they were not in anyway continuing anything to do with liberal arts when they took over.
well kinda

Jackson, TN

#20 Aug 22, 2012
guest wrote:
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Kim is right, Lambuth made the whole push to be a "liberal arts" college years ago. Memphis made sure to always mention that they were not in anyway continuing anything to do with liberal arts when they took over.
Yes, they certainly are. they are offering degrees in english, biology, psychology, etc., just for starters, with more to come. They just aren't foolishly offering those degrees to the exclusion of career-driven degrees, thereby avoiding lambuth's mistake.

i don't know what lambuth's leadership was thinking, that they were gonna become rhodes or sewanee? who knows. but it didnt work, obviously.
guest

Jackson, TN

#21 Aug 23, 2012
well kinda wrote:
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Yes, they certainly are. they are offering degrees in english, biology, psychology, etc., just for starters, with more to come. They just aren't foolishly offering those degrees to the exclusion of career-driven degrees, thereby avoiding lambuth's mistake.
i don't know what lambuth's leadership was thinking, that they were gonna become rhodes or sewanee? who knows. but it didnt work, obviously.
Perhaps I sacrificed some words at the expense of what I was trying to say. Yes they do offer those majors and some of them as Master's programs. But they are also offering the nursing and things like that.

As I heard a recruiter from UM-L state several times in an interview on 101.5 last summer, "We are not a liberal arts school, we see no long term success in being so in this day and time." When someone called in and asked if there would be a music/band program continuing there the recruiter repeated the same thing.
well kinda

Jackson, TN

#22 Aug 23, 2012
I see. Yes, that coincides with what I understand to be their long-term plans also. I think they will eventually be a very successful university that mostly trains educators of all levels, nurses, accountants, etc, as well as working adults looking to complete their bachelors or master's. I think they will soon offer a doctoral program in nursing and various educational doctorates.I don't see them ever being or wanting to be what Lambuth College wanted to be or fancied itself as. Which is good.But I can see them putting a real squeeze on good old Union and Bethel since they're charging roughly one-third the tuition.I bet that in 10 years, they've got 2,000 students.
Justwondering

Knoxville, TN

#23 Aug 23, 2012
well kinda wrote:
I see. Yes, that coincides with what I understand to be their long-term plans also. I think they will eventually be a very successful university that mostly trains educators of all levels, nurses, accountants, etc, as well as working adults looking to complete their bachelors or master's. I think they will soon offer a doctoral program in nursing and various educational doctorates.I don't see them ever being or wanting to be what Lambuth College wanted to be or fancied itself as. Which is good.But I can see them putting a real squeeze on good old Union and Bethel since they're charging roughly one-third the tuition.I bet that in 10 years, they've got 2,000 students.
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Yea, that's what I was speculating. Why stop at 2k students, if they can gain financial stability under the direction of the U of M, then why not grow and become the first successful four year public university in Jackson. It makes sense, and that will make Union strive to get better too. Also, I think the sports question can't be denied long term. It's intergal to college life, but as I've stated before, I understand that is a big reason why the former Lambuth failed. Also, they could buy up some land with the houses that are falling apart, to anticipate further expansion. That's just my two cents on potential growth. Mind if I ask how you are affiliated with the college?
lambuth grad

Mount Juliet, TN

#24 Aug 23, 2012
Lambuth's problems began when the school overextended itself on financial aid. The school began offering excessively large scholarships to an excessively large number of students. By the last few years the school was open, practically no one was paying full tuition. Then, two major donors withdrew their support from the university. The United Methodist Church reduced its contributions as well. Combine those things and you get disaster.

Lambuth did not fail because of athletics. Lambuth did not fail because of its liberal arts focus.

After finishing my undergraduate degree at Lambuth, I went on to get a graduate degree at The U of Memphis. So for me, having The U of M move onto the Lambuth campus is a great fit.

Regarding athletics, The U of M - Lambuth is a satellite campus of the main university. The U of M has satellites in other places as well -- such as Collierville and Millington. Those satellites do not have athletic teams, have never had athletic teams, and do just fine. Arkansas State - Beebe campus does not have athletic teams and does just fine. Ole Miss at Southaven does not have athletic teams and does just fine. Union University at Hendersonville does not have athletic teams and is thriving. Athletic teams are completely unnecessary at small satellite campuses.

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