o mygoodness

United States

#1 Jul 9, 2012
At Kentucky River Community Care in Jackson, for example, the agency last year fired "almost its entire staff," more than 400 employees who had been eligible for state pensions that required employer contributions, according to a lawsuit filed by KRS. The agency immediately rehired them through a company it had formed months earlier, Go-Hire Employment and Development, and Kentucky River continues to direct their daily activities, according to the suit.

Go-Hire offers the employees 401(k) defined-contribution retirement plans, but it's not part of KRS and does not provide state pensions. Just weeks before the switch, Kentucky River's executive director, Louise Howell, who made $240,182 in 2010, retired while her agency still was in the pension system, according to public records.

"I would love to talk to you but I can't," Howell said Friday. "I am not supposed to talk to you about this because everything is in litigation."

KRS calls such maneuvers "a sham." In two separate suits, it's asking Franklin Circuit Judge Thomas Wingate to intervene. State law does not permit public employers to leave the pension system once they're enrolled, said William Thielen, KRS' interim executive director. The mental health boards are trying to wiggle out, Thielen said.

Read more here: http://www.kentucky.com/2012/07/08/2252174/ke...
I think

Williston, SC

#2 Jul 9, 2012
there is something fishy going on. So she retired with state pension and then the company drops out of the state system and they do that to all the employees. I don'[t guess she did want to comment sounds loike the hand was in the cookie jar. She should be removed from retirement system and penalized heavy. Maybe the courts will right this wrong. Wonder how they sleep at night doing that kind of stuff.
They

Clay City, KY

#3 Jul 9, 2012
They don't care that people have put into this their whole life and were depending on that pension. They shouldn't be allowed to pull something like this.
about time

Georgetown, KY

#4 Jul 9, 2012
someone came forward with this story. there are lots of bad stuff going on up there. I know a person who works there and I was told about this about a year and 1/2 ago. well back in the winter. They can't tell the workers how much they have in retirement...I'm glad you came forward with this story.
o mygoodness wrote:
At Kentucky River Community Care in Jackson, for example, the agency last year fired "almost its entire staff," more than 400 employees who had been eligible for state pensions that required employer contributions, according to a lawsuit filed by KRS. The agency immediately rehired them through a company it had formed months earlier, Go-Hire Employment and Development, and Kentucky River continues to direct their daily activities, according to the suit.
Go-Hire offers the employees 401(k) defined-contribution retirement plans, but it's not part of KRS and does not provide state pensions. Just weeks before the switch, Kentucky River's executive director, Louise Howell, who made $240,182 in 2010, retired while her agency still was in the pension system, according to public records.
"I would love to talk to you but I can't," Howell said Friday. "I am not supposed to talk to you about this because everything is in litigation."
KRS calls such maneuvers "a sham." In two separate suits, it's asking Franklin Circuit Judge Thomas Wingate to intervene. State law does not permit public employers to leave the pension system once they're enrolled, said William Thielen, KRS' interim executive director. The mental health boards are trying to wiggle out, Thielen said.
Read more here: http://www.kentucky.com/2012/07/08/2252174/ke...
hand in everything

United States

#5 Jul 9, 2012
KRCC has thier hand in a little of everything. They have all those housing units. THey have Caney Creek. If I am not mistaken they are connected to Juniper Health.
As far as Dr Howell, she don't need the retirement anyway. She is rich. Didn't she get a lot of property of her late uncles? Or did the courts finally rule against her?
hand in everything

United States

#6 Jul 9, 2012
Oh and in order to live in thier housing units you or your family member living with you have to be a patient of KRCC.
also

United States

#7 Jul 11, 2012
ask the employees about all the hours of vacation time and sick time they just took from them...time they had earned and saved..they paid them for some and the rest just gone..some lost hundreds of hours..shame shame..
state worker

West Liberty, KY

#8 Jul 11, 2012
sick time rolls over to your retirement. Unless you took out your retirement when you where fired and rehired then your sick time rolled over to the retirement.
I have left several different jobs that paid into the state retirement system. I have a lot of sick days that rolled over to the retirement as I didn't use them.
If they didn't pay you for your vacation time, you might have a case for them cheating you. But you better have proof.
parent

Williston, SC

#9 Jul 16, 2012
well most of the employees that they fired from krcc and started another company, which is a joke, did take most of their sick time. I lost over 800 hours that I had accumulated over the years that I have worked in this so called joke of a company. They have done so many people wrong and how Krista White can lay down and sleep at night is beyond me. She is like a cold stone statue that has no feelings for anyone but herself. When it was KRCC it was a descent company to work for, but the ones who were switched over without any choice has pretty much got the shaft and they are only a number. They baby the ones who do nothing and mistreat the hard working ones. Now I feel a little bit better, but they cover up so much stuff and really don't help the sick or mentally ill for the patients that see the therapist.
again

United States

#10 Jul 16, 2012
It bears repeating, if you pay into the state retirement system then your sick time rolls over toward the retirement. Check the state website.
If you have proof that Krista beat you out of your sick time then you will have a case.
By the way is Krista still "friends" with good ole Leo?
vlp

Williston, SC

#11 Jul 20, 2012
Nope. She really isn't friends with no one but herself. Poor old Leo wouldn't hurt a flea.
Yes But

Hyden, KY

#12 Jul 29, 2012
If you are removed from the state retirement system, what does it matter if the sick time rolled over (which in the case of KRCC it did not). Louise Howell is not the only KRCC employee who "retired" early enough to reap the state retirement benefits and who still has a hand in the management. Krista is just a puppet getting her strings pulled and its a shame that she is. The only ones really hurt in this case is the employees who paid into the state retirement system for years but have nothing to show for it now.
Doodle

London, KY

#13 Aug 6, 2012
:)
new info

United States

#14 Aug 8, 2012
does anyone have any new information as to how the lawsuit is going? And will the employees be able to draw their retirement out if they wish to do so?
Opinion

Richmond, KY

#15 Aug 8, 2012
I guarantee they will get their retirement. You cant fight the state that gives you your funding to begin with.
What

Clay City, KY

#16 Aug 8, 2012
What happened to Dr. Murray? I really liked her. Is Mr. Stamper still there

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