Three Forks Regional Jail

Three Forks Regional Jail

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Since: Nov 08

Berea, KY

#1 Apr 30, 2009
I would like to say something about Three Forks Regional Jail. I know that it is not supposed to be like a hotel or anything but when a woman in jail needs a maxi pad, they should give her one for free. They will only give you one on fridays from the conversary and only if you have paid your booking fee. Everything in this world is revolved around money. I wonder if they get toilet paper or do they have to pay for that? I know that they are in jail for a reason but when it comes to having to roll toilet paper up for a pad, this is ridiculous. What are they going to do when a woman bleeds all over the beds and chairs?? Wouldn't it be cheaper to give them a pack of pads when they are admitted than to buy new bed clothes and chairs????
Silver

United States

#2 May 1, 2009
Well maybe they will change it then. It is sad that it takes a health hazard and blood everywhere to get the basic items needed for sanitary living conditions. I have heard a lot of things about that jail and none are good. I know that if you do the crime you should do the time but like you said at least there are some things people need for basic sanitary living conditions. i have also heard you will be pretty much dead before they will transport you to a hospital for help. Everyone has civil rights but it will take others instead of inmates to get anything changed there.
Polly C

Jackson, KY

#3 May 1, 2009
Solve your problem, STAY OUT OF JAIL!!!!!!!!!

“SINE POENA NON EST LEX.”

Since: Aug 08

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#4 May 1, 2009
Polly C wrote:
Solve your problem, STAY OUT OF JAIL!!!!!!!!!
I very much agree. I've been over there as a visitor and I think the inmates have it much too good. If jails were much more unpleasent and penalties much much more severe, maybe more people would think twice about committing crime.

“SINE POENA NON EST LEX.”

Since: Aug 08

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#5 May 1, 2009
Here is a step in the right direction in jail reform in my opinion.
Sheriff Joe Arpaio (in Arizona) is doing it RIGHT!! He has jail meals down to 40 cents a serving and charges the inmates for them. He stopped smoking and porno magazines in the jails. Took away their weights. Cut off all but "G" movies. He started chain gangs so the inmates could do free work on county and city projects. Then he started chain gangs for women so he wouldn't get sued for discrimination.
He took away cable TV until he found out there was a federal court order that required cable TV for jails. So he hooked up the cable TV again but only let in the Disney channel and the weather channel. When asked why the weather channel he replied, so they will know how hot it's gonna be while they are working on my chain gangs.
He cut off coffee since it has zero nutritional value. When the inmates complained, he told them.....this is a good one......"This isn't the Ritz/Carlton. If you don't like it, don't come back."
He bought Newt Gingrich's lecture series on videotape that he pipes into the jails. When asked by a reporter if he had any lecture series by a Democrat, he replied that a democratic lecture series might explain why a lot of the inmates were in his jails in the first place. You have to love this guy!!
More on the AZ Sheriff:
With temperatures being even hotter than usual in Phoenix (116 degrees just set a new record), the Associated Press reports:
About 2,000 inmates living in a barbed-wire-surrounded tent encampment at the Maricopa County Jail have been given permission to strip down to
their government-issued pink boxer shorts. On Wednesday, hundreds of men wearing boxers were either curled up on their bunk beds or chatted in the tents, which reached 138 degrees inside the week before. Many were also swathed in wet, pink towels as sweat collected on their chests and dripped down to their pink socks. "It feels like we are in a furnace," said James Zanzot, an inmate who has lived in the tents for 1 1/2 years. "It's inhumane."
Joe Arpaio, the tough-guy sheriff who created the tent city and long ago started making his prisoners wear pink, and eat bologna sandwiches, is not one bit sympathetic He said Wednesday that he told all of the inmates: "It's 120 degrees in Iraq and our soldiers are living in tents too, and
they have to wear full battle gear, but they didn't commit any crimes... so shut your damned mouths."

I would love to see this at Three Forks.
my thoughts

Deposit, NY

#6 May 1, 2009
I agree that jail birds shouldn't be treated like they are on vacation. All they deserve is the basic needs met. I don't think they should get snacks or makup. I can understand no tampons but pads are needed. Yeha if you dont want to be in jail then stay out of trouble. You cant control if inmates come in with sickness and diseases but you can't let the place be down right unsanitary to the point that the place needs to be quarenteened. Blood is on a whole different level when it comes to germs. Even if you think a girl should have thought about that 1st then think about the health issues to those who have to work there. They have to handel the surfaces that the criminals do and then what ever germs they get are packed home to their familys. You can't just let germs run wild cuae this creates a problem for everyone and it doesnt stay comfined to the jail disease spreds fast. It is not I know people think criminals deserve nothing and i agree to a point. If you are a female you know what it is like to have a small accident. You worry that everyone sees it and is laughing about you. No imagine to wear it for a couple of days. I agree to no speciael treatment but criminals are human and if they are treated with no humanity and civility then eventualy they break and thats no good. I'm like the original poster for this topic are they alowed toilet paper? I agree with the things the sheriff in AZ is doing but this is humiliation on a different level and the key word is "NASTY" to all who are involved with that facility.
yupyup

Lancaster, WI

#7 May 14, 2009
i think three forks needs to be shut down i mean really you will have to be either dead or half dead before they get you to a hosptial and thats just not right!!!! they say there doing justice but who in the hel is that justice???? its not and if the pad story is true then some one really who is going ot do something needs to get in three forks and take over that jail is just a plan out shame.. and for 45acp what in the hel makes u think they got it so good three forks does nothing for the people when some one really needs a guard they just set back and let happen so u want things to be more harder on ppl well how about going to jail geting raped and u need the gaurd but they dont help you i know the poeple commited the crime but for the poeple that didnt do such as bad things shouldnt have to go threw that but like you really care the only ppl who cares is the ones thats been there and done that but i think u need to get ur sh*t striaght b4 u say they need to be punished harder k any more questions about that
Believer

Pikeville, KY

#8 May 15, 2009
People who believe others deserve to be treated like that are stupid. These are people who have made mistakes. Please do not try and act like you have never made a mistake because you have. They have up to 70 people in one cell. It doesn't matter if you agree with it or not. There are laws and regulations like fire and health codes. I know that 3-forks has more inmates then what they are equipped for. It has to be against fire and health codes. That place is a breeding ground for diseases. Even if you think they deserve it, the jail should still be also accountable for their prisoners. And, apparantly there are more drugs there then on the street. One overdosed there just this past weekend. I have heard this before. There are many things wrong there. If the state came in, they would shut that place down.
yupyup

Lancaster, WI

#9 May 15, 2009
believer i agree with you 100% that place needs the state in there something needs to be done but its a jail so really who would you get to help you?

“SINE POENA NON EST LEX.”

Since: Aug 08

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#10 May 15, 2009
They get put in jail and do their time. When they get out they do the same crap again and go right back in. This leads me to think that conditions aren't so bad that they are willing to conform to the rules of society to void going back.

Someone above refered to them as "people who have made mistakes" I call them "people who have COMMITTED CRIMES". Sure I make mistakes, a lot of them, everyone does but, none of mine have ever been felonies. How does one mistakenly make and sell meth, for example? For the most part they know what they are doing is illegal and do it anyway. As far as I am concerned punishments are not nearly severe enough.

I wish we didn't need jails, but I fear the way things are going we are going to need more, bigger, and tougher ones.
yupyup

Lancaster, WI

#11 May 15, 2009
NO ONES SAYING THEY DONT NEED TO BE SET FREE AFTER BREAKING THE LAW were just saying that three forks needs to be shut down its to nasty and the gaurds dont help ppl at all they will let u get rapped shit beat outa you etc... and everything b4 they help you that jail who ever runs it dont got no scenc and i hope the state gets int here and shuts them down there breaking way to many health and hazard codes!
TNT

Pikeville, KY

#12 May 16, 2009
45ACP wrote:
They get put in jail and do their time. When they get out they do the same crap again and go right back in. This leads me to think that conditions aren't so bad that they are willing to conform to the rules of society to void going back.
Someone above refered to them as "people who have made mistakes" I call them "people who have COMMITTED CRIMES". Sure I make mistakes, a lot of them, everyone does but, none of mine have ever
been felonies. How does one mistakenly make and sell meth, for example? For the most part they know what they are doing is illegal and do it anyway. As far as I am concerned punishments are not nearly severe enough.
I wish we didn't need jails, but I fear the way things are going we are going to need more, bigger, and tougher ones.
Look, rather you like it or not. Even jails have policies, procedures, and state codes that they must go by. What I am saying, is this particular jail is not up to standards to state codes. If the state Fire marshall came in there then the place would be shut down. I see your name all over this site and you have something negative to say to every topic. Did someone hurt you? Are you a bitter person? Does it make you feel better about yourself if you can make others look bad? I know that you will get back on here and say some terrible things about me and how I shouldn't feel sorry for other people and blah blah blah, but sometimes you do have to be a little open minded in life. You think that we are upholding the crimnal. We are not. However, every facility, including jails, have to hold up to state codes like fire and health. When you stack 50 people in one cell all on the floor with a piss pot in the corner then this is a breeding ground for diseases. If there was an emergency, it would be damn near impossible to get everyone out of there,(Fire Codes). So, rather you like it or not, the jail is violating several codes. Also, they are supposed to give inmates their prescribed medicine,(I'm talking about drugs), I'm talking about heart medicine, blood pressure, and stuff like that. There is hardly ever a doctor there or a nurse. I know of an inmate who is on anti-psychotic medicine in which they did not give her and she tried to kill herself again this past week. You can't take people off that stuff if they are prescribed. The jail is overcrowded and they are not equipped to handle the problems of that many inmates. That is just how it is.
mee

Lewisport, KY

#13 May 17, 2009
three forks just needs to go to hel
To believer

Georgetown, KY

#14 May 17, 2009
Believer wrote:
People who believe others deserve to be treated like that are stupid. These are people who have made mistakes. Please do not try and act like you have never made a mistake because you have. They have up to 70 people in one cell. It doesn't matter if you agree with it or not. There are laws and regulations like fire and health codes. I know that 3-forks has more inmates then what they are equipped for. It has to be against fire and health codes. That place is a breeding ground for diseases. Even if you think they deserve it, the jail should still be also accountable for their prisoners. And, apparantly there are more drugs there then on the street. One overdosed there just this past weekend. I have heard this before. There are many things wrong there. If the state came in, they would shut that place down.
Actually she did not overdose. She got choked on the plastic bag that she had used to hide the drugs in. Either when she was trying to swallow the bag full of drugs or else when she tried to barf it back up she ended up being suffocated. Evidently drugs are put in some sort of plastic bag & swallowed & to retrieve them they either barf them up or wait for them to pass the other route. Isn't it sad what drugs do to people.

“SINE POENA NON EST LEX.”

Since: Aug 08

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#15 May 18, 2009
To believer wrote:
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Actually she did not overdose. She got choked on the plastic bag that she had used to hide the drugs in. Either when she was trying to swallow the bag full of drugs or else when she tried to barf it back up she ended up being suffocated. Evidently drugs are put in some sort of plastic bag & swallowed & to retrieve them they either barf them up or wait for them to pass the other route. Isn't it sad what drugs do to people.
Obviously believer is trying to in some way blame the jail for this girls death. She was trying to smuggle drugs into a jail, a felony in itself by the way, and ended up choking to death. There is no one to blame but the girl herself. As far as I am concerned it's one less doper to worry about and I wish more would try it. I do however feel sorry for the families. They are the true victims in all of this. They will do everything they can and spend their last dime to try to keep their child or loved one out of jail and away from drugs. In almost every case they wind up back on the drugs and in jail. This happened with my oldest daughter. The cycle repeated for a number of years. Then one day I caugh her stealing one of my guns to sell for drugs. I had her arrested and told her to never come around me again. I still don't regret doing this but I do regret it was necessary. She was convicted of the theft, was released on shock probation and was dead in Lexington of an overdose within the year.

“SINE POENA NON EST LEX.”

Since: Aug 08

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#16 May 18, 2009
TNT wrote:
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Look, rather you like it or not. Even jails have policies, procedures, and state codes that they must go by. What I am saying, is this particular jail is not up to standards to state codes. If the state Fire marshall came in there then the place would be shut down. I see your name all over this site and you have something negative to say to every topic. Did someone hurt you? Are you a bitter person? Does it make you feel better about yourself if you can make others look bad? I know that you will get back on here and say some terrible things about me and how I shouldn't feel sorry for other people and blah blah blah, but sometimes you do have to be a little open minded in life. You think that we are upholding the crimnal. We are not. However, every facility, including jails, have to hold up to state codes like fire and health. When you stack 50 people in one cell all on the floor with a piss pot in the corner then this is a breeding ground for diseases. If there was an emergency, it would be damn near impossible to get everyone out of there,(Fire Codes). So, rather you like it or not, the jail is violating several codes. Also, they are supposed to give inmates their prescribed medicine,(I'm talking about drugs), I'm talking about heart medicine, blood pressure, and stuff like that. There is hardly ever a doctor there or a nurse. I know of an inmate who is on anti-psychotic medicine in which they did not give her and she tried to kill herself again this past week. You can't take people off that stuff if they are prescribed. The jail is overcrowded and they are not equipped to handle the problems of that many inmates. That is just how it is.
I have no intention of saying anything bad about you. You are entitled to your opinion and I think your intentions are good. I do however have a good deal of personal and professional experience with drug addicts and law breakers. The professional experience comes from being a career law enforcement officer. The personal experience comes about because of my daughter. She was introduced to drugs in Jr. High school, thanks to the daughter of a prominent local official in the county we were living in at the time. For the next ten or so years we went through several cycles of jail and rehab. In the end it cost me my entire life savings and a marriage, and my daughter was still a dope head and had no desire to change. The final chapter of this story can be read in the above post. I understand that you have sympathy for people, but I think it is wasted on some of these people
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If their are code violations I agree thay need to be fixed, and appropirate legal action taken.

On the issue of overcrouding, what should they do start turning them away? If the proposed new Breathitt County jail becomes a reality maybe this will help for a time. Sadly, I am told that the majority of three forks inmates are from our county.

I have no knowledge of or opinion on the medical issue except to say everyone should have the necessary medical care.

I agree thet the jail should be ran in accordance with the law. However I believe that the inmates stay should be made as tough, miserable, and unpleasent as the law will allow. Maybe that way some will think twice about going down the same road again when they are released.

“SINE POENA NON EST LEX.”

Since: Aug 08

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#19 May 19, 2009
I Feel For You wrote:
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I am not trying to sound like a smart ass to you but your story is exactly my point with Ray and his daughter when I say that I think he was hoping she would straighten herself out. I am not judging you for your choices cause each parent has to make choices that they think is the right thing to do. I have small children and i am so scared for them cause crimes get bolder and bolder. When I was little there were people everyone knew as wild but it wasnt nothing like it is now. Some of your post makes me mad and bugs me all day. For the most part I agree with what you say. I am sure you have seen and heard it all since you have worked in law inforcment but even you got to understand that all cases arent cut and dry as too breaking the law. Not all law breakers are dope heads or bad people. The law does not alow the eye for an eye kind of thing but it is taken into consideration. Maybe it is just me but some people need their ass whipped sometimes. Like I said I have small children and God help anyone who harms them and I think that all parents feel that way. I think the least violent person in the world would love to get their hands on the person who harmed their children. I have never been to jail and I doubt that I ever will be in there as a prisoner. I dont think inmates deserve the royal treatment. But like someone else said there are state made rules and codes that have to be followed. If my kids ever have a drug problem and they go to jail that it isn't pure filth. There are procedures that have to be folloewd to make things run smoothly. I have a family memeber in jail right now who held his hand over a old womans mouth while his friend robbed her of her pills. He didnt even get 10 years out of it and I just dont think that was enough. I have a brother who has a serious drug problem and I worry about him all the time. I worry that I will get "the call" about him any day. I am sure it was hard for you to tell what happedned but I am glad you did cause even though your posts sometimes get me agrivated I understand why you are such a stickler for the law. I am sorry about your daughter I wish you could have helped her. Maybe your words on here will help someone else. Maybe your story helps parents who are dealing with a drug addicted child know that they arent alone in how fustrated they feel.
First of all I am sorry if some of the things I have written have caused you distress. That was not my intent. I do hope that some of my posts will at least make some people think. I have very strong opinions and I am not shy about making them known, and I thought that was one of the things sites like this were for.
Secondly, I agree with you that the jail should have to adhere to all rules, codes and regulations that apply, and if they aren't then the proper actions should be taken against those responsible. I am just saying that if a jail stay is made as unpleasent as possible, within those rules then maybe at least a few will think twice about doing the things that would send them there.
I was a police officer for almost thirty years. In that time I did have to draw my weapon on a few ocasions but I never had to shoot anyone, thank god, and I never had an excessive force complaint filed against me. I always tried to treat people as well as they would allow me while still performing my duty as I saw it. But if I felt someone needed to be cited or arrested I took that action and used the necessary means to do so.
I have a fear that if things keep going as they are that the world we live in will become more and more dangerous for us all. I understand the fear you have for your children, and this is the very thing I am talking about. The bad guys are getting bolder. The courts are getting more lenient, and it seems like every decision they hand down ties the hands of the police even more.

“SINE POENA NON EST LEX.”

Since: Aug 08

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#20 May 19, 2009
I had to split it up I got too long-winded.

Thank you for your comments about my daughter. The dicisions I made were not easy but I saw no other choice. As I said somewhere above, I do not regret what I did but I regret every day that it was necessary. As for Ray and his daughter, I don't know that whole story but it is water under the bridge and they did their time. I hope it helped her I don't know, to my knowledge I have never met her. I do know that I would not have knowingly committed a crime (not saying he did, I don't know) in my situation with my daughter.
TNT

Pikeville, KY

#21 May 21, 2009
45ACP wrote:
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Obviously believer is trying to in some way blame the jail for this girls death. She was trying to smuggle drugs into a jail, a felony in itself by the way, and ended up choking to death. There is no one to blame but the girl herself. As far as I am concerned it's one less doper to worry about and I wish more would try it. I do however feel sorry for the families. They are the true victims in all of this. They will do everything they can and spend their last dime to try to keep their child or loved one out of jail and away from drugs. In almost every case they wind up back on the drugs and in jail. This happened with my oldest daughter. The cycle repeated for a number of years. Then one day I caugh her stealing one of my guns to sell for drugs. I had her arrested and told her to never come around me again. I still don't regret doing this but I do regret it was necessary. She was convicted of the theft, was released on shock probation and was dead in Lexington of an overdose within the year.
You don't feel sorry for anyone. I see your name all over this site saying something awful about everyone. What makes you so perfect anyway. I bet you are a terrible bitter person who has to put others down in order to feel better about yourself. And, it doesn't matter what that girl was doing, it was the jails job to watch her and not to let anything happen to her. It doesn't matter what she was doing. They simply did not do their job and now one girl is dead, one overdosed, and another attempted suicide. Last week, they gave a girl on suicide watch a razor to shave with. She used to slit her wrist. Then she was taken to the Psych. unit in which they released her to go back to jail and gave her meds to her. Which she took 28 of them and is now on life support at the Jackson Hospital. They are not following policies and procedures. It's that simple.
TNT

Pikeville, KY

#22 May 21, 2009
45ACP wrote:
I had to split it up I got too long-winded.
Thank you for your comments about my daughter. The dicisions I made were not easy but I saw no other choice. As I said somewhere above, I do not regret what I did but I regret every day that it was necessary. As for Ray and his daughter, I don't know that whole story but it is water under the bridge and they did their time. I hope it helped her I don't know, to my knowledge I have never met her. I do know that I would not have knowingly committed a crime (not saying he did, I don't know) in my situation with my daughter.
You should meet her. She is my step-mother and she looks great. She has been clean for years and works very hard. People like you keep trying to put her down but she doesn't even seem to care. I love that about her. She tells me not to worry about stuff like this because Breathitt County never forgets your mistakes. That was almost 13 years ago. Everybody, needs to look at her now. She is great to me and I love her dearly.

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