“Let's go Yankees”

Since: Jul 08

Long Island

#35712 Aug 27, 2013
TMAN_Mets wrote:
Just got the text from the front office. It does appear Harvey will need the TJ surgiry and miss all of 2014. Things will still be ok. Wheeler will be the ace of the staff next year while Montero and Syndergaard get the big league experiance. Harveys back better than ever the following year. Mets in 2015 will have 4 aces and be in line to win 110 games and a championship. I cant wait for 2015 and beyond with this team.
and there it is........the 2015 season down the drain!!!
Fast Eddie

Myrtle Beach, SC

#35713 Aug 27, 2013
Okay, so what was Jon Niese doing tonight that made him extra special? He wasn't throwing any harder than usual and he wasn't throwing his big curveball all that much. He was, however, keeping all of his pitches at the batter's knees, which explains the exceptional number of ground balls he coaxed out of the Phillies' lineup.

The Mets should gift-wrap a DVD of tonight's performance and make Jon watch it before every start.

Veloz.
Jerry Grote

AOL

#35714 Aug 28, 2013
Fast Eddie wrote:
Okay, so what was Jon Niese doing tonight that made him extra special? He wasn't throwing any harder than usual and he wasn't throwing his big curveball all that much. He was, however, keeping all of his pitches at the batter's knees, which explains the exceptional number of ground balls he coaxed out of the Phillies' lineup.
The Mets should gift-wrap a DVD of tonight's performance and make Jon watch it before every start.
Veloz.
It is called pitching Eddie, not throwing at 97mph. As much as they keep pitch counts, limits to innings, all the in between start stuff that every organization does nowadays, pitching smart is what will win you ballgames and also limit arm injuries.
The other night Hernandez was describing a converation he had with Jim Katt regarding the Harvey injury. Katt said the difference bewteen his generation of pitchers and today's is that they pitched games without throwing every pitch at 95mph. They hit spots, used off speed to set up hitters, and when they needed to bring it, they would. We both are old enough to recall that very few of the best pitchers from the 60s & 70s suffered arm injuries the way today's pitchers do. By the way remember how after every game Seaver and Koosman's knees were dirty from driving off the mound with their legs. That was pitching back then. Niese pitched a game last night.
Fast Eddie

Myrtle Beach, SC

#35715 Aug 28, 2013
Jerry Grote wrote:
<quoted text>
It is called pitching Eddie, not throwing at 97mph. As much as they keep pitch counts, limits to innings, all the in between start stuff that every organization does nowadays, pitching smart is what will win you ballgames and also limit arm injuries.
The other night Hernandez was describing a converation he had with Jim Katt regarding the Harvey injury. Katt said the difference bewteen his generation of pitchers and today's is that they pitched games without throwing every pitch at 95mph. They hit spots, used off speed to set up hitters, and when they needed to bring it, they would. We both are old enough to recall that very few of the best pitchers from the 60s & 70s suffered arm injuries the way today's pitchers do. By the way remember how after every game Seaver and Koosman's knees were dirty from driving off the mound with their legs. That was pitching back then. Niese pitched a game last night.
You're right, Jerry. No surprise there. I recall that Sandy Koufax has said that he became an All-star when he decided NOT to throw as hard as he could with every fastball. Once he took a few mph off his heater, his control improved and his fastball gained movement. And Warren Spahn, who was no slouch himself, summed it up neatly: hitting is timing; pitching is disrupting the hitter's timing. Both of these observations downplay the importance of throwing the ball with maximum velocity on every pitch. It's nice to be able to reach 97-98 mph, but it makes more sense to dial it down to 93-94 until you need to roach back for a little extra oomph in a tight spot. As you said, that's called pitching.

One other observation: sliders and curve balls are tough on the ligaments in the elbow joint; fastballs take a toll on the rotator cuff, which consists of a set of four muscles. Niese came back strong after long rest and physical therapy because he was working with muscle. Harvey may not be able to do the same because his injury is to a ligament, which is trickier. The good news is that Tommy John surgery has improved vastly over the years
and has a great survival rate. Moreover, the repaired elbow joint is often stronger after the surgery than it was before being injured.

Have faith, Mets fans.

Vella

“Stay cool!!!!!”

Since: May 08

Santa Fe, NM

#35716 Aug 28, 2013
TMAN_Mets wrote:
Just got the text from the front office. It does appear Harvey will need the TJ surgiry and miss all of 2014. Things will still be ok. Wheeler will be the ace of the staff next year while Montero and Syndergaard get the big league experiance. Harveys back better than ever the following year. Mets in 2015 will have 4 aces and be in line to win 110 games and a championship. I cant wait for 2015 and beyond with this team.


" just got the text from the front office" funny, I thought it was momma who works for the mets...

lmao

tman and momma the same poster, and the lies keep on growing

say, why not offer to take them to your suite?

“Is this the best we have?”

Since: Aug 07

Emerald City

#35717 Aug 30, 2013
With all the arm injuries happening to pitchers it is past time to reverse the decision made in the winter of 68. Raise the mound back up to 15 inches. They already helped the batters by bringing in the fences making almost every ball field a band box. This 10 inch mound isn't cutting it.
Tango

Chicago, IL

#35718 Aug 30, 2013
TMAN_Mets wrote:
Just got the text from the front office. It does appear Harvey will need the TJ surgiry and miss all of 2014. Things will still be ok. Wheeler will be the ace of the staff next year while Montero and Syndergaard get the big league experiance. Harveys back better than ever the following year. Mets in 2015 will have 4 aces and be in line to win 110 games and a championship. I cant wait for 2015 and beyond with this team.
Hey fatso momma......you are beyond stupid ya moron......the muts suck and will continue to do so for many more years you clueless fool.....110 wins.....hysterical fatso clown.....LMFAO
Fast Eddie

Myrtle Beach, SC

#35719 Aug 31, 2013
Ho-hum, Dillon Gee was masterful again last night; he made only two bad pitches, both breaking balls, in 7.2 innings. He doesn't resemble at all the guy who opened the season pitching BP in a Mets uniform. He's a great example of a guy who can get lots of outs by pitching to contact. He deserves a nice raise for next season.

Gotta love Dan Murphy's hard-nosed approach to the game. His dash to score from second base on an infield hit last night was inspirational. He's a prime target to be included in an offseason trade this winter, but it won't be awful if he's still the Mets' 2B in 2014.

With September just around the corner, it should be fun to see what youngsters like Matt den Dekker, Travis d'Arnaud, Wilmer Flores, Gonzalez Germen and Vic Black can do in the final month. Let's throw Andrew Brown and Ruben Tejada into the mix as well. They all will have a shot at claiming a job in 2014. These players will indeed be playing meaningful games in September.

Veloz.
Fast Eddie

Myrtle Beach, SC

#35720 Sep 2, 2013
OMG, watching Daisuke Matsuzaka pitch is like watching grass grow! I refuse to watch any game in which he's scheduled to pitch from now on. If he's in a Mets uniform next year, it will mean that Sandy has lost his mind.

I don't mind the losing if the Amazin's are auditioning young players for regular positions in future years, but watching washed-up veterans cash a few extra paychecks is a waste of my time and eyesight.

Veloz.
Tango

Germany

#35721 Sep 2, 2013
TMAN_Mets wrote:
Just got the text from the front office. It does appear Harvey will need the TJ surgiry and miss all of 2014. Things will still be ok. Wheeler will be the ace of the staff next year while Montero and Syndergaard get the big league experiance. Harveys back better than ever the following year. Mets in 2015 will have 4 aces and be in line to win 110 games and a championship. I cant wait for 2015 and beyond with this team.
Hey fatso moron momma......we saw one of the muts aces get torched up today in Atlanta 13-5 in sox garbage dice k.......anymore jokes or blockbusters you got for us fatso? Sandy like you is an idiot momma......LMFAO
Tango

Germany

#35722 Sep 2, 2013
Yankees 56 wrote:
<quoted text>Tman and myself shared a joke in a private message a few years ago he private messaged me a day or so ago with the same joke assuring me he was Tman, you should give it a rest.
Hey fatso momma/tman are the muts eliminated yet? LMFAO

Since: Sep 13

Heidenheim, Germany

#35723 Sep 3, 2013
Good to see we are ignoring the trash coming on
here. Hope we can continue to do so.

Since: Sep 13

Heidenheim, Germany

#35724 Sep 3, 2013
Omar selected 2 pitchers in the Rule 5 draft, one
of them had 37 saves in AA ball last season. If
nothing else, adds a few more arms to the higher
levels of the minors.
Fast Eddie

Myrtle Beach, SC

#35726 Sep 13, 2013
Wow, ten days without a single comment on this site! Of course, the Metsies have been astonishingly ho-hum during that time. Now even the subs are getting hurt (Flores, Turner). What aggravates me is the complete lack of adjustments being made by Mets batters who have been flailing away hopelessly at the plate. Batter after batter steps into the batter's box, takes his stance, and proceeds to take the first pitch or a called strike. Then he swings at a second pitch that is nowhere near the strike zone. Presto! He is now down 0-2 and at the pitcher's mercy. Does it not occur to any of these guys to change their pattern?

What are these guys watching when they're sitting in the dugout waiting for their next at-bat? May I suggest that they use that time to study how the opposing pitcher is getting them and their teammates out?

You don't have to be a Mensa candidate to play this game. As Yogi Berra once said, "You can observe a lot just by watching."

Veloz.
Fast Eddie

Myrtle Beach, SC

#35727 Sep 14, 2013
What in the world could Frank Francisco have been thinking when he plunked Jason Werth the other night? The pitcher, behind in the count 3-0, should simply have been trying to put the pitch somewhere over the plate, not trying to back Werth off the dish. It appeared, however, that there was some intent to throw at the batter in this case.

The circumstances were somewhat similar to those that applied when Jon Niese nailed Jason Heyward in the jaw a few games back. As I recall, Niese threw his pitch up and in to Heyward, but not at him. Heyward actually dove into a pitch that was not going to hit him if he simply stood still. Werth never had a chance to avoid the pitch that hit him.

The fact that Francisco has been treated as a pariah while Niese was immediately forgiven must have something to do with Francisco's reputation before the incident.

Veloz.

I can't wait until the Mets see Francisco in their rear-view mirror.
Fast Eddie

Myrtle Beach, SC

#35728 Sep 16, 2013
Funny how an entire lineup can sink into a funk at the same time. It sure was aggravating yesterday to watch the Mets' batting order snooze their way through the game. It was rewarding to see d'Arnaud finally catch a break during an AB. He was due for a positive break.

Another great outing from Dillon Gee, who is terrific to watch as a fan of good pitching. His renaissance this year after shoulder surgery is a great story. If Harvey winds up having Tommy John surgery, Gee should be the ace of the staff next year. He has earned it. Having Wheeler and Niese behind Gee is not exactly shabby. Jenrry Mejia as a #4 starter is another plus. Let's see if Dice-K can win the fifth spot with a strong finish. Carlos Torres? I believe he would be a great long man out of the bullpen, plus an extra starter when double-headers crop up.

Note to Sandy: be prepared to open up the Wilpon vault this winter. Shin-Soo Choo would look just dandy in orange-and-blue next spring. I like Ellsbury, too, but he seems a tad injury-prone. Sandy should offer a front-loaded contract for three or four years, no longer. At the same time, a CF platoon of den Dekker and Lagares might be the way to go in '14. Andrew (Hogg) Brown needs to be in the OF mix as well. He has performed quite well in a very limited role this season. The guy is a decent OF and has a lot of sock in his bat, precisely the element that the Mets will need in the future.

As for 1B, I vote for Ike over Duda. This is purely subjective, but I was beginning to feel very confident whenever Davis came to the plate (as long as there was a righty on the mound) late in the season. He has learned to stop chasing balls out of the strike zone, so I'm willing to I've him one more chance to win the job. One. The best I ever hope for from Duda is a base on balls. He's a born DH, so let's ship him to the AL.

Veloz.
Jery Grote

AOL

#35729 Sep 17, 2013
Time for both Duda and Davis to be on their way out of town. Hang on to Murphy, a pure hitter. Flores is tradeable. Young as a 4th or 5th outfielder. Brown is a spare part though. Yes, he hit a little but he is a journeyman at best.
I'm not hand-wringing over Harvey. Go get the surgery. They have plenty of young arms.
Fast Eddie

Myrtle Beach, SC

#35730 Sep 17, 2013
Jery Grote wrote:
Time for both Duda and Davis to be on their way out of town. Hang on to Murphy, a pure hitter. Flores is tradeable. Young as a 4th or 5th outfielder. Brown is a spare part though. Yes, he hit a little but he is a journeyman at best.
I'm not hand-wringing over Harvey. Go get the surgery. They have plenty of young arms.
Indeed, Jerry. Young arms are plentiful in the Mets' system. They can still make meaningful progress as a winning team next year, then hope to get Harvey back in 2015, in time for a pennant run.

Veloz.
Fast Eddie

Myrtle Beach, SC

#35732 Sep 20, 2013
First at-bat since August 2, David Wright hits a two-run homer off Cole Hamels.

Nah, we didn't miss him at all.

Veloz.
Fast Eddie

Myrtle Beach, SC

#35733 Sep 21, 2013
Wow, I certainly hope substitute umpire Mark Ripperger enjoys his brief stay in the major leagues. Ripperger demonstrated his total ineptitude for the job with his call at HP in the second inning tonight. Juan Lagares made a fantastic throw to the plate and d'Arnaud capped the effort with a terrific tag on Domonic Brown, who managed to "score" without actually touching the plate.

Ripperger's positioning on the play was completely wrong-headed. With the throw coming straight in from CF, Ripperger opted to view the proceedings from behind home plate, which effectively prevented the umpire from having an unobstructed sight line to the tag. The TV cameras, from every conceivable angle, showed that Brown slid so far inside the baseline that he never touched the dish. Furthermore, they showed that d"Arnaud definitely tagged Brown on the right knee as he slid on past the plate.

I can't wait until next year when such plays will be reviewable on video.

Veloz.

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