Gun control forces struggle to keep issue alive

May 7, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: SanLuisObispo.com

Kelly Ayotte, Max Baucus and others as they struggle to persuade five senators to switch their votes and revive the rejected effort to expand background checks to more firearms buyers.

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“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#136 May 18, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Let's look at what *YOU*** said, exactly:
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You did say this, GayDavy?
Shug?
"I realize it's difficult for you to understand the difference between STATE and FEDERAL laws."

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#137 May 18, 2013
spocko wrote:
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You should talk! How many had to die, be maimed and displaced so you brainless friggen lunatics could have your war in Iraq - it's unconscionable! A legal abortion is limited to 12 weeks when a fetus is indistinguishable from a bird fetus or any other fetus, as usual, your claim is nothing but hysterical!
53 MILLION innocent and defenseless human beings MURDERED by cowardly demonRat traitors. There is NO such thing as "legal" MURDER.

You freaks are cowardly GENOCIDAL murderers. And you keep coming after our guns. In order to keep us from rising up, and throwing off the yoke of your vile and treasonous 'system'. A 'system' that you communist-socialist freaks have been perversely attempting to erect in this country for about ONE HUNDRED YEARS.

You freaks have FAILED your mission. And are now being pushed back. Soon, you will be universally detested and despised. You'll be put back where you belong. Shivering in the dark, in silence, hoping that you won't be discovered.

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#138 May 18, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
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53 MILLION innocent and defenseless human beings MURDERED
Made up numbers mean nothing, GayDavy.

Wipe your chin.

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#139 May 18, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
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"I realize it's difficult for you to understand the difference between STATE and FEDERAL laws."
I realize you will pretend you didn't say it, GayDavy.

But I have the quote.
GunShow1 wrote:
Why were there NO 'gun control laws' from 1791 all the way up to 1934?

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#140 May 18, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
A 'system' that you communist-socialist freaks have been perversely
Tell us about the black UN hellycopters, PA!

Fact remains, GayDavy: you haven't lifted a finger for this country.

And you got fired for having your finger in the till so we know you have a finger.

“Liberals hate free speech!”

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#141 May 18, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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I wouldn't have to worry if retarded POS's like you would stop selling guns to felons and wife beaters, Retarded POS.
Been a long time since an aborted fetus was taken into a primary school and used to kill 20 children.
Wipe your chin, shug.
Enforce the laws that cover that problem, there is no need for new ones. Too bad your mom didn't take the same approach with you! You are defending the indefensible!

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#142 May 18, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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I realize you will pretend you didn't say it, GayDavy.
But I have the quote.
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I realize far more than you ever will, meaningless drone. One that has been reduced to following me around like a puppy, defecating as you go. You lack any facts or substance, so you have degenerated to spewing imbecilic bile.
spocko

Oakland, CA

#143 May 18, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
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Argue with an idiot and this is the response!
Comparing guns to abortion? And you call others idiots? I dunno Forrest ...

“Liberals hate free speech!”

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#144 May 18, 2013
spocko wrote:
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Comparing guns to abortion? And you call others idiots? I dunno Forrest ...
Death is death no matter how you put it!
spocko

Oakland, CA

#145 May 18, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
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Death is death no matter how you put it!
Indeed, your mind died a long time ago ...

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#146 May 18, 2013
spocko wrote:
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Comparing guns to abortion? And you call others idiots? I dunno Forrest ...
"The project to disarm all the uncivilized Indians is frequently advocated and it seems at first very plausible. But practically all efforts to accomplish this have heretofore proved fruitless. The Indians find ready means of secreting a large portion of their arms and ammunition, and equally ready means for supplying deficiencies by purchase from traders. Besides the free American citizens who roam at will over the plains, and whose right to bear arms is guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States, have no very tender regard for the lives of the Indians, and are not liable to arrest or punishment for any act of war they may commit against them, while the Indian who shoots a white man is liable to be shot in turn by the first soldiers who overtake him. There is an element of fair play involved in this question which cannot be entirely overlooked. Indians who are left comparatively free upon a large reservation, with a view to their civilization and education in the habits of civilized life, must, like other people, be left the means of self-defense against lawless attack. If they are to be disarmed they must be made prisoners and kept under guard, as well for their protection as for their control."

- J.M. Schofield, Major-General, Commanding, Report of the Secratary of War,[INDEX TO EXECUTIVE DOCUMENTS OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE FIRST SESSION OF THE FORTY-NINTH CONGRESS, 1885-'86 IN THIRTY-SEVEN VOLUMES. WASHINGTON: GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE. 1886. Pg. 132](John McAllister Schofield,(Sept. 29, 1831 – March 4, 1906), was an American soldier who held major commands during the American Civil War. He later served as U.S. Secretary of War, and Commanding General of the United States Army. After the war, Schofield was sent on a special diplomatic mission to France, on account of the presence of French troops in Mexico. During Reconstruction, Schofield was appointed by President Andrew Johnson to serve as military governor of Virginia).

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#147 May 18, 2013
spocko wrote:
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Indeed, your mind died a long time ago ...
Section 12. Every person has a right to bear arms for the defence of himself and the State.

Mr. BAGG moved to insert the word "white" between the words "every" and "person."

Mr. B. said--I move the amendment simply because I wish, so far as our sable population is concerned, under the operation of our laws, to keep them in their present sphere. I would extend to them benefits and charity, &c., &c., but I would not let them come into our civil, political, social, conjugal, or connubial relations.

Mr. WILLIAMS--I would like to put one question. I know in Kalamazoo a native born citizen, a man of large possessions, who is a black man. Would you not put the means of self-defence in that man's hands? If a gang of kidnappers were to come into the State, would you deprive that man of the means of defending his home, his children and his property?

Mr. BAGG--There may be isolated cases of individuals to whom I would extend more liberality than to others, but must go on general principles, which are so extensive that I should have to forego them, as they cannot adapt themselves to isolated cases. This is a general principle which I look to. Colored people, negroes and Indians should not be allowed to bear arms with us. It will be made a pretext with them to get into other circles. I am for keeping them where they are, believing them to be a species at least one link beneath us. The moment you let them into the political circle, you open the social and every other circle. I trust the Convention will never leave out the word "white" in the organic law.

Mr. BUSH would ask the gentleman from Wayne if this was a new feature in the constitution.

Mr. CORNELL--This would take away his natural rights, the right of self-defence which has never been given up....

[REPORT of the PROCEEDINGS AND DEBATES IN THE CONVENTION TO REVISE THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF MICHIGAN. 1850. LANSING: R.W. INGALS, STATE PRINTER. 1850.]

“Liberals hate free speech!”

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#148 May 18, 2013
spocko wrote:
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Indeed, your mind died a long time ago ...
Don't hate me 'cause you know I am right! There is no half way with you people it is your way or the highway!!

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#149 May 18, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
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Death is death no matter how you put it!
A cluster of cells the size of a lima bean is not a baby, Retarded POS.

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#150 May 18, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
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The GayDavy menu:
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“Liberals hate free speech!”

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#151 May 18, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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A cluster of cells the size of a lima bean is not a baby, Retarded POS.
Is it alive? If we are suppose to respect live, what is the size limit? Is it like fishing? Over a certain size, it is a keeper?

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#152 May 18, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
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Is it alive?
No, Retarded POS.

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#153 May 18, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
Over a certain size, it is a keeper?
The Christian, Jewish, and Muslim god says when it draws its first breath.

Lima bean's breath, Shug?
spocko

Oakland, CA

#154 May 18, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
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Don't hate me 'cause you know I am right! There is no half way with you people it is your way or the highway!!
Of course you are - all you half baked gunloons are always right and anyone that dares to question you lunacy is full of hate ...

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#155 May 18, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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The top and Spam
Here you go, traitor-troll. Pay close attention to the last sentence:

[Pg. 218]
"...In the very organization of our republic, the militia seems to have been a component part of the system, and one, without which the other parts could not long hold together. A people who would be self-governed must be self-defended. The armed yeomanry of the republic are those into whose hands the protection and defence of the people's rights can be most safely intrusted, as they are indeed the people themselves, whose liberties are to be protected. But it is not only necessary that our citizen soldiers should be armed, but in some degree disciplined, for an armed multitude without discipline, must always be more terrible to itself than to its enemies...."
[Pg. 219]
"...Should an objection be raised, that by curtailing the number of the militia in the way proposed, would be an infringement of the constitution, which declares that "the freemen of this commonwealth shall be armed and disciplined for its defence," and should this be so construed as to require that every militia man should be armed and disciplined, your committee would reply, that this provision has never been complied with in that sense; for by every law that has been passed for the regulation of the militia, certain classes of our citizens have been exempted in addition to those exempted by acts of congress, and in some other states this exemption is carried to a much greater extent, so as to embrace fire companies and those engaged in iron and manufactories; nor would this system deprive any citizen of the right to bear arms."

-[REPORT OF THE COMMITTEE ON THE MILITIA SYSTEM, April, 1832. HAZARD'S REGISTER OF PENNSYLVANIA DEVOTED TO THE PRESERVATION OF FACTS AND DOCUMENTS, AND EVERY OTHER KIND OF USEFUL INFORMATION RESPECTING THE STATE OF PENNSYLVANIA. EDITED BY SAMUEL HAZARD. VOL. IX.--JANUARY TO JULY, 1832. PHILADELPHIA. WM. F. GEDDES, PRINTER, 9 LIBRARY ST.]

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