NRA blames everybody but themselves
Teddy R

Reston, VA

#123 Dec 27, 2012
Proud liberal wrote:
<quoted text>Automatic weapons have been outlawed for 75 years??? Please proceed BS!
Educate yourself:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearm...
The Stinker

Hickory, KY

#124 Dec 27, 2012
cantthinkofaname wrote:
I comprehend you nit-wit. It was a pointless point is all I'm sayin'. You have nothing to fear anyway. I guarantee nothing will change and we will continue to hear of new mass killings. Youre precious assault weapons are safe from extinction.<quoted text>
You've done nothing to contribute to this debate. All you've done is resort to name calling, but that is to be expected from someone who doesn't have a legitimate argument.

My weapons have been used for personal and home defense and banning my right to personal and home defense is not going to stop future violence. Do yourself a favor and get educated.
The Stinker

Hickory, KY

#125 Dec 27, 2012
cantthinkofaname wrote:
We all know guns are dangerous, and know what they're capable of. Lunatics are harder to spot. <quoted text>
Guns can be dangerous in the wrong hands. Whether those hands belong to a small child, an adult who doesn't exercise safe handling of a firearm or a lunatic like that sleazebag that murdered those children a couple of weeks ago.

Putting blame for something like this on responsible gun owners (those of us who understand the importance of safe handling of a firearm) or for that matter, laying the blame on the gun itself is not the answer.

I'm not sure what the best answer is to prevent future school shootings, but there has been talk about putting an armed guard in every school while others feel it may be best to arm teachers. Arming teachers would not be a bad idea if the teachers are to be armed or would have access to a firearm nearby would be properly trained in the use of such firearms in the event of an emergency. And even then, that shouldn't be mandatory (some teachers may not wish to be armed).

An armed guard is not a bad idea, but there is that possibility that some lunatic may take out the guard before he goes gunning for everyone else.

These debates could go on for a long time, but I do know that disarming law-abiding Americans is not the way to go. I do hope that a practical solution is found, and soon.
The Stinker

Hickory, KY

#126 Dec 27, 2012
cantthinkofaname wrote:
I meant 26 and if you don't know what I'm talking about then wow. Then how did this kids mom obtain one legally? I know they're not used for those purposes, so then what's the damn problem with enforcing the supposed law you're talking about or stop selling the things to an irresponsible public?<quoted text>
There is a differnece between automatic and semi-automatic. Automatic weapons have been banned for a very long time.
Oscar

Los Angeles, CA

#127 Dec 28, 2012
Yet, a report from Second City Cop, further investigated by Rebel Pundit, reveals that the University of Chicago Lab School, the elite private school where Mayor Emanuel sends his children, has its own armed guard. Not only that, Second City Cop reports that Mayor Emanuel’s children have an armed escort to and from school.
Homer Van Meter

AOL

#128 Dec 28, 2012
A talking point from PL wrote:
<quoted text>
The Thompson submachine gun was the weapon of organized crime and bank robbery in the '20s and '30s. Sometime around 1933 ALL ownership and use of fully automatic weapons was banned.
That didn't stop Dillinger or Baby Face Nelson. They actually robbed police stations for guns, ammo and bullett proof vests to continue with their crimes.
If a criminal wants a gun, any type of gun, they will get it. It doesn't matter if it is banned.
Subway trains are deadly

Islip, NY

#129 Dec 28, 2012
I think we need to ban subway trains as well, subway trains in the wrong hands can be deadly,

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/terror-tr...

maybe we need mandatory registration of all subway riders.

and lets outlaw knives as well,

or just maybe the deranged will find a way to hurt people no matter what we do.
choices choices

Yonkers, NY

#130 Dec 28, 2012
Subway trains are deadly wrote:
I think we need to ban subway trains as well, subway trains in the wrong hands can be deadly,
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/terror-tr...
maybe we need mandatory registration of all subway riders.
and lets outlaw knives as well,
or just maybe the deranged will find a way to hurt people no matter what we do.
A Queens subway-shover is about to make a move against Al Sharpton. What do you do?

A. Nothing.

B. Write to your Chuck Schumer to propose anti-shoving legislation.

C. Call your office and tell them you'll be late for work.
Outlaw killing machines

Islip, NY

#131 Dec 28, 2012
choices choices wrote:
<quoted text>
A Queens subway-shover is about to make a move against Al Sharpton. What do you do?
A. Nothing.
B. Write to your Chuck Schumer to propose anti-shoving legislation.
C. Call your office and tell them you'll be late for work.
I would say answer B,

and I am sure Schumer would turn the incident into hours of news coverage of himself railing on the republicans for allowing unregistered use of high speed subway trains.

All trains which travel over 2 mph will be outlawed, as they serve no purpose but to allow subway pushing incidents.
cantthinkofaname

New York, NY

#132 Dec 28, 2012
Talk about having an irrational fear. So what your saying is that in order for me and my loved ones to survive in this crazy world is to get a few automatic weapons so when I'm woken up in the middle of the night by a gang I can grab my Uzi and blast away. Probably killing half my own family in the process. You sound like a pompous azz.
Teddy R wrote:
<quoted text>
You obviously don't have the remotest clue as to what kind of arm is appropiate for home defense for the law-abiding homeowner living in an area that is being victimized by a gang of 3 or 4 armed criminals carrying out home invasions on a weekly basis.
Not at all a far-fetched home defense scenario for millions of Americans.
You are therefore completely unqualified to be opining that defective and unconstitutional legislation being pushed by self-centered grandstanding pols shouldn't be "such a problem" for law-abiding Americans.
cantthinkofaname

New York, NY

#133 Dec 28, 2012
Sorry bub, but you started the name calling a few posts back. I DID NOT say I'm all for banning your right to own a gun!!! JEEEZ! I'm saying just make it a bit tougher for someone, let's say, who's been in a mental institution for example to guns used in the military and a thousand rounds of ammo. You really have aproblem with that?
The Stinker wrote:
<quoted text>
You've done nothing to contribute to this debate. All you've done is resort to name calling, but that is to be expected from someone who doesn't have a legitimate argument.
My weapons have been used for personal and home defense and banning my right to personal and home defense is not going to stop future violence. Do yourself a favor and get educated.
cantthinkofaname

New York, NY

#134 Dec 28, 2012
I am NOT a ban all guns nut. I would own a gun if I wasn't so clumsy for fear I'd blow my own head off. I don't know the answer to all this, I'm just really pissed off about how easy it is for NON law abiding citizens, such as yourself, to get their hands on these type of guns. Okay?
The Stinker wrote:
<quoted text>
Guns can be dangerous in the wrong hands. Whether those hands belong to a small child, an adult who doesn't exercise safe handling of a firearm or a lunatic like that sleazebag that murdered those children a couple of weeks ago.
Putting blame for something like this on responsible gun owners (those of us who understand the importance of safe handling of a firearm) or for that matter, laying the blame on the gun itself is not the answer.
I'm not sure what the best answer is to prevent future school shootings, but there has been talk about putting an armed guard in every school while others feel it may be best to arm teachers. Arming teachers would not be a bad idea if the teachers are to be armed or would have access to a firearm nearby would be properly trained in the use of such firearms in the event of an emergency. And even then, that shouldn't be mandatory (some teachers may not wish to be armed).
An armed guard is not a bad idea, but there is that possibility that some lunatic may take out the guard before he goes gunning for everyone else.
These debates could go on for a long time, but I do know that disarming law-abiding Americans is not the way to go. I do hope that a practical solution is found, and soon.
cantthinkofaname

New York, NY

#135 Dec 28, 2012
Oh crap - sorry. I meant to say as opposed to Law abiding citizens such as yourself. See even clumsy at typing.
The Stinker

Hickory, KY

#136 Dec 28, 2012
cantthinkofaname wrote:
Sorry bub, but you started the name calling a few posts back. I DID NOT say I'm all for banning your right to own a gun!!! JEEEZ! I'm saying just make it a bit tougher for someone, let's say, who's been in a mental institution for example to guns used in the military and a thousand rounds of ammo. You really have aproblem with that? <quoted text>
it seems the nut jobs will always find a way to get their hands on these weapons. Gun control laws will not stop them. Nut jobs and criminals have no regard for the law or for human lives.
The Stinker

Hickory, KY

#137 Dec 28, 2012
cantthinkofaname wrote:
Oh crap - sorry. I meant to say as opposed to Law abiding citizens such as yourself. See even clumsy at typing.
It's ok. We all make typos from time to time. There are a good number of people that live in my area that are anything but law abiding. They don't fear the courts and they don't fear going to jail. They do fear getting dead by someone protecting his or her home with a firearm. Break-ins in my neck of the woods are almost non-existant.
nac

Merrick, NY

#138 Dec 28, 2012
wow wrote:
one person out of 80 million gun owners loses it and suddenly we have to ban all guns. wow, you people are ignorant.
Ignorant doesn't even begin to describe the gun control crowd. If you are pro-gun control, you obviously know absolutely nothing about history what so ever; you obviously know nothing about the Constitution and why it was written; you obviously know nothing about personal responsibility; and you obviously know nothing about the real world.

Well, either that, or you are a tyrant that wants to disarm a free people to put an end to that freedom.

So, pro-gun control people... show of hands... are you stupid or evil?
TrollBot

Reston, VA

#139 Dec 28, 2012
cantthinkofaname wrote:
Talk about having an irrational fear. So what your saying is that in order for me and my loved ones to survive in this crazy world is to get a few automatic weapons so when I'm woken up in the middle of the night by a gang I can grab my Uzi and blast away. Probably killing half my own family in the process. You sound like a pompous azz.<quoted text>
That's a personal choice. Feel free to do what you think best to protect your own family.

But how dare you presume to infringe on others' Constitutionally protected rights to do the same - as THEY see best - to protect themselves and their families? Now THAT'S pompous - particularly in light of your patent ignorance of the field.

You sound like an idiot controlling Statist.

Sorry - that's redundant, I know.

TrollBot

Reston, VA

#140 Dec 28, 2012
cantthinkofaname wrote:
I'm saying just make it a bit tougher for someone, let's say, who's been in a mental institution for example to guns used in the military and a thousand rounds of ammo. <quoted text>
It's already against US federal law for anyone who's been in a mental institution to buy a firearm, and has been for many years.

So what exactly are you proposing?

If you're proposing a national registry of lunatics and mental defectives with mandatory reporting by mental health care professionals, and making mental health care professionals criminally liable for failing to report nut-cases who should not possess firearms to LE authorities so the the laws ALREADY ON THE BOOKS might actually be adequately enforced, you've got my support.
The only choice

Elmwood Park, NJ

#141 Dec 29, 2012
Stop dumping psychos on the streets who should be in treatment so they don't get a chance to get firearms they have no business getting.
yowza massa Soros

Yonkers, NY

#142 Dec 29, 2012
The only choice wrote:
Stop dumping psychos on the streets who should be in treatment so they don't get a chance to get firearms they have no business getting.
Lock psychos up! Even if they are a major DNC support group.

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