Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 310384 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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eyeswideopen

Iceland

#301099 Jun 18, 2013
-Michelle- wrote:
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My mother was born in the late 50's and she said that my Grandmother never talked to her about sex or anything about her body. When she got her period, she was given the talk by a cousin who's older than her by a few years. Perhaps it had to do with the fact that my Grandma, and those of her generation, were old school Mexicans who were raised to believe that sex, and anything that had to do with sex(including reproductive organs) was "dirty" and you don't talk about those things. So I know where you're coming from when you speak of not being educated about those things.
And now people are inundated with information; do you see less unwanted pregnancy? I don't.

Learning is very similar to obedience, one has to WANT TO. That's why the results are not better for learning than obedience. All one needs to know is sex should only be done when one is married and that it leads to pregnancy, a baby.

Its not rocket science. If those who know sex leads to pregnancy won't avoid it; why would you think having lectures on the uterus, ovaries, menses, etc.,will cause them to avoid it?

You can show them pictures of anatomy and physiology, etc., but its not an intellectual problem. Its a self- control problem. We have to be able to say no to pleasure when its not the right time for it. Why do you think so many Americans are also overweight? Do you think they have no information on nutrition? People who know all about it are also overweight.

Many times, its not what you know. Its are you in control of yourself.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#301100 Jun 18, 2013
You can't even read your own mind; you can't possibly read anyone else's.
persnickety wrote:
<quoted text>I know they are aware that they have killed a human being, they are in denial, because only the most ugly filthy insipid person would want to kill a harmless and innocent preborn child, so I guess you are what I described.
sasylicious

Jackson, NJ

#301101 Jun 18, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
My dear mother was anything nucleotide and slurry ..She worked 6days a week to support us A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE of a widow doing her best.
I was the loose slurry one ..can't blame it on mom..I was stupid .
I believed a man who was supposedly going to marry me and make me a wife...
Rose, being a young impressionable young girl who slept with her bf is not a "slutty loose valued " girl. I NEVER blamed your mom. Temptation is ONE thing, bad examples by mom and dad are another.

What I was referring to today was the NEGATIVE influences that kids live with today via BAD examples by mom and dad,loose morals or values or lack of them altogether,being allowed to be exposed to sexually explicit tv,movies,etc...

I ALSO was a widower. Years later,I met a few men. Was I human enough to be tempted DESPITE my beliefs? YES. Do I teach my kids that none of us are BEYOND temptations. We are sinners Rose. Doesn't make temptations easier because we have strong beliefs or understanding as to why God says no (with our parents backing it up)to premarital sex. Look at the fruits of it.

I had perfect opportunity to show my kids and talk to my kids about ME being as single as they are,with the SAME pressures,SAME ffeelings,SAME temptations,etc...

If anything,it bonded us even more. I am not a "say as I do,because I am older and wiser,...but don't do as I do" kinda mom. Not saying that I am OH SO PICTURE PERFECT AND DON'T FALL,mind you.
Katie

Federal Way, WA

#301102 Jun 18, 2013
sasylicious wrote:
<quoted text> Birth control is NOT a new concept Katie. It's been around for YEARS. MANY MANY MANY women and men use it daily.
50 million abortions later....
THOUSANDS of STD's....single parenting......
Doesn't appear like your "middle ground" for preventing killing as choice,works.
BTW...I most certainly do respect women. I am one. I actually HELP women. YOU don't. You just want them to kill as choice. How about you put your money where your mouth is. Help a desperate woman who feels that she has no CHOICE but to abort due to her circumstances(being alone,dumped by bf/husband,needing financial help,a loving shoulder to cry on,etc..). How about you steer a post-abortive woman who is suffering from her "choice" to abort years later?
pfft...NOT YOUR problem,right miss "I care about women" and you don't.
Why are you applying your over active imaginings to me? You have no clue. Besides, conversation had been about finding a middle ground and that birth control was it. You pooh poohed it. And now you claim it was ineffective? Talk about jumping to conclusions.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#301103 Jun 18, 2013
If your god wanted people to have kids, he'd make them fertile...right? Shouldn't childless couples just accept god's will?
No Relativism wrote:
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There are waiting lists of married couples (traditional marriage) waiting to adopt a baby. Your kind is executing babies that couples would love to adopt.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON to Save us

#301104 Jun 18, 2013
Katie wrote:
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No, I can't tell, sorry.
I am not talking about the IRS today. Haven't brought it up once. Have no interest in it at present and see nothing relevant about it regarding what I have posted. Although, they are being gone after by the Religious Right at present.
Nothing is ever what it seems in politics, Rose. Nothing.
I haven't said it's all you Christians.
I have said it's the Religious Right. They are, according to headlines, "powerful but small". Powerful because they have the money from the combined churches behind them. Small, because the percentage of people who actually cave to their pressures is still small.
But it's growing.
Did you bother to read what was cut and pasted for your benefit and included the link? It discusses how the Religious Right has been busy trying to dismantle the USA's political and court systems. And they almost succeeded politically.
It is not the Presidents. The Religious Right has been running behind the scenes since Reagan and through all the others following. Bush Sr did more to keep them at bay than did Bush Jr. Clinton let them have bigger pieces of the pie in between the two Bushes.
It is Congress. That Tea Party you keep bringing up, but for different reasons than what is being discussed.
Nobody has claimed they don't have a right to assemble. But they have to follow the same rules everyone else does. And those PACs have specific rules to follow.
What better way to dismantle the IRS as we know it than by claiming they did wrong focusing on the Tea Party PACs?
You notice the Religious Right doesn't fool around? If one of their chosen goes against them (whether real or imagined) they are thrown under the bus.
Look at Komen. The very woman who began the charity due to her sister's death has been let go as CEO and all over that Planned Parenthood fiasco.
If you don't see the Religious Right backing the republicans who initiated that investigation into making sure Planned Parenthood doesn't use federal funds for the abortions performed (as if they hadn't ever been able to keep 'em separate before) and then convincing Komen's then-CEO to help defund Planned Parenthood due to the witch hunt investigation by claiming they would not fund them due to the investigation, then I don't know what to say. The writing's on the wall.
It's a lot of info. There's a lot there for you to read. Nobody expects you to digest it all at once. But read it, Rose, before outright dismissing it.
And,all my posts have been about the,I R S doing what it should NOT do meddle in politics.
And you said they PROTECT US THAT is NOT their job!!!

They broke the law and it was nit just 2 low level people

It's nit an illusion. It's big government .
Someone else gave me a thing on the Religiuis right..And I don't join anyone

But your side Ha S O R O S And his crowd meddling in politics fir the last three elections.

He brags he almost collapsed the English market and got his money out if here months before the crash..

He and his ilk are the ones want to take over and if their guys in office are nit liberal or socialist enough they get scolded..please.

And the religious right are nit behind dismantling anything. Congress and supposedly Justice is investigating because it us,WRONG.

do you think the pro Israel groups are in on our conspiracy .

It's,all related.

Men with money rule the world and back losing democracy .

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#301105 Jun 18, 2013
Imagine...people who don't think like you do. That makes you sick? Seek therapy.
Sweet JM wrote:
<quoted text> You are a mother, correct?...a grandma as well. There was a time when you felt your wanted "fetus" move and kick...as well as your grandchilds while in her mothers womb. It was an amazing feeling right? You felt that son or daughter alive for the first time. A thrill of joy took over as you gasped. You went on to continue feeling that son/daughter move, kick and grow.
Mother to Mother, I'd like to know how in the world you can sit here so coldheartedly and admit that you support such a cruel procedure that intentionally kills that son or daughter. I get sick and discouraged everytime I think that mothers like you are walking the earth.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#301106 Jun 18, 2013
Not everyone is frigid, dear heart.
eyeswideopen wrote:
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Illogical, contraception is not a sure way to avoid pregnancy.
Abstinence is.
Contraception is like bait and switch schemes. It baits people into having sex, thinking they are safe from pregnancy. But WHAM, next thing they know, they are PREGNANT!
Pro abortion people love it. It feeds them more patients for the slaughter.
The Big Money people love it, money one way or another by buying contraception or abortion care.
Abstinence is not just the only sure way, its free.
My bet is your not sincere either.
sasylicious

Jackson, NJ

#301107 Jun 18, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Really how much did she know ..besides you get married. Have sex and babies.
Did she know about reproductive organs ..I sure didn't
Did she know anything about the real world outside the Church.
I know what my mom knew..nada..barely period info from the old ladies.
You are in medicine how much dud the docs even know about our insides and how a baby grows.
The first intrauterine pics were in Life magazine in 72
How much do you think a teenage girl knew in the sixties.
Nit much.
Sincerely me JM what I knew..really
My mom didn't have a mom who talked incessively about sex. My mom just grew up with self esteem from her parents loving her and by being a good example. She used to tell us kids that things weren't that different in her day regarding boys who wanted more than they should. She knew without being told,when a boy was looking to get too comfortable with her. She was young too. She left gatherings with her peers and friends when she SAW an opportunity for temptations or things looking like they were not good. NOBODY taught her that. It's obvious sometimes.

My mom didn't grow "up" in the sixties,but some of my siblings/bro/sis in laws did. My best friend did too. A few grew up as wild-childs. Woodstock. The whole flower child thingy. My gf said that she had zero self-respect and the "anything" goes attitude was right up her alley. She KNEW when she was used for sex with no commmitment. She even had an abortion. She FREELY admitted her abortion as a result of IRRESPONSIBLE behavior. Abortion allowed her to have MORE sex because she knew she'd never give birth. Birth control gave her a green light to IRRESPONSIBLE behavior. My siblings/family lived in that error. They had brains. They KNEW when a boy was using them or wanted sex only. COMMON sense sometimes.

You believed your bf cared. He didn't. MANY people get fooled but deep down inside ,we know the signs. I had a relationship with someone who I thought TRULY cared. I didn't give him sex. My mom comforted my broken heart when he ended our relationship. I was an ADULT btw. It was REALLY hard to understand because I KNEW he liked me. He persued me for YEARS to date him. We were GOOD friends but when push came to shove,his sexual wants won over. In the end,he fought to get me back. I was so tempted. SO tempted but reality was,...what it was. I knew the truth.

So,I don't care if you know your body or not,or what error you grew up in,EVERYBODY knows that sex =baby sometimes. ALL the birth control in the world,especially how long it has been around,how many people use it,they are STILL getting pregnant because SEX LEADS TO PREGNANCY. The majority of those getting aborttions are SINGLE UNMARRIED women.

God forbids premarital sex for a reason. Makes sense why. NOTHING good comes out of it other than a moment of sexual desires for that person. Is it worth it to wait til marriage? YES.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#301108 Jun 18, 2013
Go suck down a fetus frappe.
No Relativism wrote:
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You spend your days promoting the execution of defenseless babies.....then you want gushing sympathy because your EX-husband died.
Boo-hoo.
Stop killing babies, then maybe I'll believe you give two shits about your dead EX-husband.
sasylicious

Jackson, NJ

#301109 Jun 18, 2013
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are you applying your over active imaginings to me? You have no clue. Besides, conversation had been about finding a middle ground and that birth control was it. You pooh poohed it. And now you claim it was ineffective? Talk about jumping to conclusions.
Just how many YEARS have you people been discussing preventing pregnancy by using artificial birth control? LOL I mean,you haven't comprehended it by now?

I remember a few years back hearing Mother Angelica on one of her tv shows discussing sex ed. She said that her mom told her about the birds and the bees. It took ONE time for her to "get it". She doesn't understand all the EDUCATION for years to learn a simple concept. I remember laughing so hard. SO true.

MOST of the education as far as our kids are concerned is not about the actual "sex act" but more self-respect,learning to love yourself as God loves you,that you are not a toy for some selfish boy,that sex/love making is a beautiful act for a married couple not just for procreation-but for bonding. THEN you discuss the consequences of that act outside its proper boundaries the way God intended. DISASTER,HEARTACHE,ETC...

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#301110 Jun 18, 2013
They can get a puppy.
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
Thousands and thousands of couples wanting to adopt an unwanted child. Any woman allowing her baby to live will have no trouble finding grateful parents for that child.
sasylicious

Jackson, NJ

#301113 Jun 18, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
If your god wanted people to have kids, he'd make them fertile...right? Shouldn't childless couples just accept god's will?
<quoted text>
Many women simply can't have children for unknown reasons. Gods will? Perhaps?

But,MANY can't either conceive or carry due to issues that are brought on,that most likely are not God inspired. We live in a toxic environment and that takes its toll on our health. A few women that I know who had abortions were told that because of the abortion,they can't carry their baby. Stressful lives sometimes. Medications.

So many different reasons. Gods will? I don't think so.
sasylicious

Jackson, NJ

#301115 Jun 18, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
I did know sex could lead to a baby but my true love said oh nit just once ..And if something happened are getting married when you graduate we can just marry earlier.
That's how much I knew..I was stupid.....are you happy .you had a mire normal life..by the he was was lying .
2 of my friends married 2 of his but alas I was left behind with my huge fountain knowledge..nothing about protection..No BC piles none around..despite what knit thinks.
So there I was a really really bad stupid loose woman. And I went against my religion ..well I learned my lesson!!!
Happy???
Not sure why you are being nasty and sarcastic to me Rose. Did I do something to you to warrant this?

Like I said,I am not perfect or sinless. WHY would I be happy that you suffered. Are you "happy" if I suffer for my sins?

NOT nice Rose.
sasylicious

Jackson, NJ

#301116 Jun 18, 2013
-Michelle- wrote:
<quoted text>
My mother was born in the late 50's and she said that my Grandmother never talked to her about sex or anything about her body. When she got her period, she was given the talk by a cousin who's older than her by a few years. Perhaps it had to do with the fact that my Grandma, and those of her generation, were old school Mexicans who were raised to believe that sex, and anything that had to do with sex(including reproductive organs) was "dirty" and you don't talk about those things. So I know where you're coming from when you speak of not being educated about those things.
I have never heard of anyone calling sex "dirty". Just because it was more respected and sacred back when,and that it was not for single unmarried people,didn't mean that it was "dirty".

I hear alot of people discussing how Catholics or religious are taught that sex is "dirty". I have never heard anyone say that. Nor is it a "taboo" subject amongst us. My mom and dad were the most straight laced ,moral people. My mom was never afraid to talk about anything. We lived a moral life but ANYTHING was talked about. ANYTHING. Just because it was not accepted before marriage didn't mean that it was taboo subject.

Interestingly,my daughter(in her 20's) was telling me about her conversation with a family. These people couldn't believe that she talks to me about ANYTHING and EVERYTHING. In fact, none of her many friends(but one)have ANY relationship with their Moms.

How sad is that?

Yet,I am the classified "rigid Catholic" by bigots?

LOL You'd be surprised .
Katie

Federal Way, WA

#301117 Jun 18, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
And,all my posts have been about the,I R S doing what it should NOT do meddle in politics.
And you said they PROTECT US THAT is NOT their job!!!
They broke the law and it was nit just 2 low level people
It's nit an illusion. It's big government .
Someone else gave me a thing on the Religiuis right..And I don't join anyone
But your side Ha S O R O S And his crowd meddling in politics fir the last three elections.
He brags he almost collapsed the English market and got his money out if here months before the crash..
He and his ilk are the ones want to take over and if their guys in office are nit liberal or socialist enough they get scolded..please.
And the religious right are nit behind dismantling anything. Congress and supposedly Justice is investigating because it us,WRONG.
do you think the pro Israel groups are in on our conspiracy .
It's,all related.
Men with money rule the world and back losing democracy .
Hmmm Let me try this.

I agree. The IRS shouldn't meddle in politics.

The IRS is on the list for being dismantled. What better way to do so than create a scandal and rearrange the executives in charge? Put one in place that favors the Religious Rights "core values" and call it good. Granted, I haven't wanted to discuss this at length because I haven't been able to research it at length and don't wanna -- wow there was a big roll of thunder. Anyway, don't wanna be coming at this without any more information.

In regard to personal privacy and bodily autonomy, I may not like the procedure of abortion, but I like losing these civil rights a lot less.

It used to be republicans and democrats worked together, cooperated, and found balance. What's been chipped away the most is that balance. You talk of sides... Rose, I don't have a side. I believe in civil rights, in equality. I believe in knowing the facts of all sides before spouting off, shooting at the hip so to say. I used to vote either republican or democrat in my state prior to our state gov't changing the rules. That resulted in one unfavorable, inexperienced person voted in as Assessor-Treasurer and created a huge backlash. Last I read, they were changing the revised system, but I still can't vote the way I liked to. Now I have to pick a side.

And there's more thunder... they said thunder storm possibly late afternoon... guess it's here now.

I am glad we are able to discuss this civilly. You remind me of my mom, though. Stubborn as all hell! LOL
sasylicious

Jackson, NJ

#301118 Jun 18, 2013
Katie wrote:
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NR? I still mean it in regards to you. Post that one on your mirror, kay? Read it everyday.
And don't forget. As long your Xtianity continues to shine though, I'll continue to think the above.
Katie,YOU are being quoted(links and all). Why are you using your bigotry by bringing up his faith to cover it up?.

OWN what you say for once. What is with you people playing games with your own words?

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON to Save us

#301119 Jun 18, 2013
sasylicious wrote:
<quoted text>Not sure why you are being nasty and sarcastic to me Rose. Did I do something to you to warrant this?
Like I said,I am not perfect or sinless. WHY would I be happy that you suffered. Are you "happy" if I suffer for my sins?
NOT nice Rose.
Just reacting to what you said IN about slutty women getting pregnant ..And disagreeing about how much we knew..And talking about moms who give bad examples.

Lost my temper.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#301120 Jun 18, 2013
sasylicious wrote:
<quoted text> Uh,sweetie? You PROUDLY refer to yourself as PRO-CHOICE.
Yes I do freak child. So?
Choice to do what?
Damn you're stupid.

TO MAKE THEIR OWN CHOICE. Period. It doesn't MATTER what the choices are, its the fact that I support their right TO MAKE THEIR OWN CHOICE.

What is so confusing about that to you? You're truly stuck on stupid regarding a very simple concept.

“GO BLACKHAWKS!!”

Since: Dec 07

Home of Lord Stanley!

#301122 Jun 18, 2013
sasylicious wrote:
<quoted text><snipped>I have never heard of anyone calling sex "dirty". Just because it was more respected and sacred back when,and that it was not for single unmarried people,didn't mean that it was "dirty".
I respect the fact that you, and those you personally know, were taught different views regarding sex. However, I was speaking about *my* family and the way *they* were raised to think and feel about sex.

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