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razzmatazz

Falls City, NE

#294532 May 1, 2013
rosesz wrote:
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I said in one of my posts thatxwe had gospels and epistles.. we did kearn things IN the bible..We did not have any bible study AS THE RCC DOES NOW
Yes a lot of people in the middle ages did not read but a lot did or thexpribting press would probably not been invented..
But the Church did NOT want them reading it on their own..that they needed the Church the priests to interpret. If you are Christian..you believe that Christ came for this reason that we no longer needed the priests to know and worship God..he gave man the brains to print them but then they burned them. Priests and ministers help us understand for sure and some are very good.. but at that time for one example tge Chutch was selling indulgences..you could give the Church money to buy less time jn purgatory for your loved one...THIS IS NOT BIBLICAL..and one if the things the Reformation was against. So if plain people could read tge scriptures in their houses..things like this eould be seen..Even when ai was a kid we learned something about indulgences..but dont think we bought them we sais extra prayers..
That is just one example ..Again bible study was an offense back then. I was shocked to learn about some thjngs as an adult
IMHO. Catholics should know history unadulterated.. That does not make tge RCC bad or evil...
Its like not teaching about slavery in America...or about concentration camps in Europe..Stuff happened..
That is why I love thd bible..warts and all.
We do not believe in giving money to save our souls. Only the nobility knew how to read, peasants were...peasants . I think you picked up some anti -Catholic tracts and took them seriously. You have questions about the Church, go ask a priest. RCIA is a great clss to take to brush up on your knowledge of the church and is offered at all parishes. The Catechism would also help. Another thing, if you knew your church history, well you would know that we would never ban the Word of God.
rosesz

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#294533 May 1, 2013
Ink wrote:
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That's pretty funny and not even a little accurate.
Ok do you sre not a Christsin snd learned what I did kn Catholic school and latdd..sorrry you are fre3 to believd what you want.
rosesz

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#294534 May 1, 2013
razzmatazz wrote:
<quoted text>We do not believe in giving money to save our souls. Only the nobility knew how to read, peasants were...peasants . I think you picked up some anti -Catholic tracts and took them seriously. You have questions about the Church, go ask a priest. RCIA is a great clss to take to brush up on your knowledge of the church and is offered at all parishes. The Catechism would also help. Another thing, if you knew your church history, well you would know that we would never ban the Word of God.
...whatever look up the history of indulgences.. look up the Reformation...I do not need classes.. i am not spouting anyghing...THEY BURNED THE BIBLES..but like Ink you can believe as you will..
I am most decidedly Not antiCatholic..
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#294535 May 1, 2013
razzmatazz wrote:
<quoted text>We do not believe in giving money to save our souls. Only the nobility knew how to read, peasants were...peasants . I think you picked up some anti -Catholic tracts and took them seriously. You have questions about the Church, go ask a priest. RCIA is a great clss to take to brush up on your knowledge of the church and is offered at all parishes. The Catechism would also help. Another thing, if you knew your church history, well you would know that we would never ban the Word of God.
Her remarks are true. It seems that everything that rises to a level of power corrupts itself. What Christ found hypocritical with the Jews, his Church also became just as concerned with self power and ultimately just as hypocritical.
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#294536 May 1, 2013
rosesz wrote:
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Ok do you sre not a Christsin snd learned what I did kn Catholic school and latdd..sorrry you are fre3 to believd what you want.
Sorry your ramblings interspersed with some truth and much nonsense is hard to follow.

My questions only required a short precise answer.
rosesz

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#294537 May 1, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Sorry your ramblings interspersed with some truth and much nonsense is hard to follow.
My questions only required a short precise answer.
And have to say your posts confuse me also. But I am glad you sgree eiyh me on some things.
rosesz

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#294538 May 1, 2013
AND sorry that our bible and religious discussions have taken the day for the forum..

Obviously there is disagreement between beliefs that I woukd tbink were not opposed by a common faith..I was wrong...But sorry for being rude

Guess some days I can tick off anybody..lol
Peace
razzmatazz

Falls City, NE

#294539 May 1, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Her remarks are true. It seems that everything that rises to a level of power corrupts itself. What Christ found hypocritical with the Jews, his Church also became just as concerned with self power and ultimately just as hypocritical.
What Rose was saying happened in the time before the reformation, greedy bishops and popes were very corrupt, they were flushed out and the Church became better . But in no way did we tell people not to read the bible. the peasants couldn't even afford a bible let alone read one.
razzmatazz

Falls City, NE

#294540 May 1, 2013
rosesz wrote:
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...whatever look up the history of indulgences.. look up the Reformation...I do not need classes.. i am not spouting anyghing...THEY BURNED THE BIBLES..but like Ink you can believe as you will..
I am most decidedly Not antiCatholic..
I think you misunderstood. You ahould know what the world was like back then. Also you should know the Church, most of the clergy helped the poor and needy, most people were illiterate and what they were taught came from Mass and they also learned by example from others like nuns and monks.
rosesz

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#294542 May 1, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Her remarks are true. It seems that everything that rises to a level of power corrupts itself. What Christ found hypocritical with the Jews, his Church also became just as concerned with self power and ultimately just as hypocritical.
Could not agree more
rosesz

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#294543 May 1, 2013
razzmatazz wrote:
<quoted text>We do not believe in giving money to save our souls. Only the nobility knew how to read, peasants were...peasants . I think you picked up some anti -Catholic tracts and took them seriously. You have questions about the Church, go ask a priest. RCIA is a great clss to take to brush up on your knowledge of the church and is offered at all parishes. The Catechism would also help. Another thing, if you knew your church history, well you would know that we would never ban the Word of God.
John wycliff is only one example
rosesz

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#294544 May 1, 2013
razzmatazz wrote:
<quoted text> I think you misunderstood. You ahould know what the world was like back then. Also you should know the Church, most of the clergy helped the poor and needy, most people were illiterate and what they were taught came from Mass and they also learned by example from others like nuns and monks.
Absolutely the body of the Church..the clergy..nuns..all did then and thru the ages so much good. I said they were the frontrunners in charity.

But at that time the scriptures were in Latin..the translations were the issue and after those..the disseminatoon to the people..THE HIERARCHy of the Church hated thaT...burned the books and persecuted those wh did that..and Shakespeare wrote in the Middle ages.. obviously some people could read or have read to them..this did not all happen in a decade. It spanned a while like 200 years or so..

And thd Vatican was super political..and powerful..Kjngs allied with Rome for advantage. Some of the popes were Not divinely elected..near as I can see..IMHO

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#294545 May 1, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
It's not really a joke. The kid grows up with no belief in judaism but has been mutilated soley for the sake of that religion. I believe that the parents have the right to raise their kids in their religion, but not to force unnecessary surgery on them for any reason. It's HIS body, and he should be the one to make that decision.
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Most Jewish kids where I come from, DO have beliefs in Judaism. I dont really know anyone that's ever "left" the faith per`se, and absolutely nobody (that I know of) that's questioned being circumcised at 8 days old in a religious ceremony - or not questioned it enough to not have their children circumcised as well. Its not surgery either, I've been to a few bris's, its a simple ceremony and done in less than 3 minutes.

I'm not saying its right, but it is what it is, and its not going to change anytime soon, particularly in the Orthodox and Hasidic communities.

Since: Sep 08

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#294546 May 1, 2013
The Prince wrote:
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It is male mutilation. You denounce all priests because a fraction of them abused children yet you defend a "religious" practice of mutilating male children.
Go bitch at G-d, its HIS rule.

Oh wait, I almost forgot, you ignore what religious rules and parts of the bible you dont like.
Hell, She isn't even a real Jew.
Actually I am Tomtom, whether YOU like it or not.
Real Rabbis do not perform weddings between people of the same sex.
Again, and as proven, you're wrong. In the Reform, Reconstructionist and Conservative sects, they certainly do. More and more in the Orthodoxy also do.

ALSO, gay marriage is 100% recognized in Israel and has been for many years.
You are just another proabortion pagan hypocrite, pagan. You also have a vile and filthy mouth, you are no lady.
And you are a phony, vile, fking phony xian hypocrite. I wont even dignify calling you a Chrisitan, because you're certainly not.

Since: Sep 08

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#294547 May 1, 2013
The Prince wrote:
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You would make a joke out of the mutilation of male babies, you man hating lesbian. you are a sick person and a disgusting proabortion pagan.
Mutilating men gets you lezbos off. It is all about you self hatred and your penis envy. You will just have to continue to ear flannel shirts, a mullet and use a strap on with the "wife" in your bizarre relationship that is not officially sanctioned by any real Jewish religion.
ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

**pat pat** You keep telling yourself all that you twit. Not one iota of it is true, but if it helps you sleep better at night, knock yourself out.

Literally even. LOL

Since: Sep 08

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#294548 May 1, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Where other Jew executed by the Romans for breaking the laws of the Torah? I thought that the Romans allowed the Jews to take care of religious problems. Wasn't that what the Sanhedrin was for?
You're a MORON Inkstain. You asked what laws of the torah he broke. I gave you the biggest one. You idiot.

Since: Sep 08

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#294549 May 1, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Maybe all Jewish sects use the same bible but they each choose what to believe and follow. They don't all follow the bible in the same way. Even the Pharisees and the Sadduces didn't agree.
AGAIN, you're a MORON Inkstain. The discussion was about the different translations OF the bible.

It would be REALLY nice if you bothered to actually follow a discussion and post in context before you mouth off about things you know nothing about.
rosesz

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#294550 May 1, 2013
razzmatazz wrote:
<quoted text>What Rose was saying happened in the time before the reformation, greedy bishops and popes were very corrupt, they were flushed out and the Church became better . But in no way did we tell people not to read the bible. the peasants couldn't
even afford a bible let alone read one.
Thing is..They were jn Latin..or Greek or Aramaic.. the bishops could read that...it was the translations.. snd the dpreading of those that was at issue

Remember thd early Chtistjans ghey eoukd get a letter say from Paul snd read it aloyd.

The English or German people did the same and bibles were one of the firsf things people learndd to read.. or parts of them..By the time they were printed there was a demand fot them

It was called the forbidddn book.. The church had people hunting them down and burning them

Since: Sep 08

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#294551 May 1, 2013
Ink wrote:
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That's pretty funny and not even a little accurate.
Well, yours is one meaningless opinion.@@

Since: Sep 08

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#294552 May 1, 2013
rosesz wrote:
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I do
Pkease read longs posts on last page..took me a long time to write..nit repeating for the third ir fourth time:)
Dont pay any attention to that one Rose, Inkstain likes to pontificate while playing stupid. Not worth your time.

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