Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 330856 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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sassyliciouus

Jackson, NJ

#278658 Jan 21, 2013
Junket wrote:
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A total ban on guns is unlikely. A total ban on alcohol didn't work. A total ban on abortion wouldn't work either for the same reason.
There are laws and restrictions on all of the above. The number of drunk driving fatalities has steadily decreased. The gestational week a woman can legally abort without citing a reason is also restricted.
What the world needs now is pride in personal responsibility.
"""The number of drunk driving fatalities has steadily decreased""" "

False.

Interesting that you compare abortion to guns and alcohol restrictions.

Chicky said "there is nothing wrong with abortion" so why are people interested in/agree with restrictions?

That makes them anti-choice to RESTRICT her rights. To FORCE her to gestate against her will. To penalize her for finding out that she was pregnant after the restrictions.

Welcome to our prolife world where we DO want her to give life and to prevent her from chosing death for her child.
sassyliciouus

Jackson, NJ

#278659 Jan 21, 2013
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
You purposely lie when you leave off the qualifier I used to answer a hypothetical question of when fetus becomes baby. My answer was "technically a fetus until cord is cut." The word "technically" is called a qualifier.
Not that this is my personal opinion, which you should have figured out long ago, and stopped trying to imply as if it were my opinion. If you haven't figured this out yet, you've no one to blame but yourself.
Elise called a delivered,still attached fetus,an infant. Do you agree? Do you think that "technically" it is still a fetus?

What do you mean that "not that this is my personal opinion"? You answered that "technically a fetus until the cord is cut". According to whom?

Which is it? a fetus or infant?

If *it* dies before the cord is cut,and STILL attached to moms body via the cord,is it considered a stillborn ?
sassyliciouus

Jackson, NJ

#278660 Jan 21, 2013
AyakaNeo wrote:
<quoted text>All zefs are killed weather it's spontaneous abortion or not.
Dying naturally is not being "killed". A spontaneous abortion is not the same as an elective abortion.
Katie

Seattle, WA

#278661 Jan 21, 2013
sassyliciouus wrote:
<quoted text> Excuse me? I took what Ocean said to him and repeated it back to her. I guess Ocean is not a b*tch when SHE said that to him,huh?
You're a joke Katie.
I have no problem with Oceans view of teens abstaining from sex. Where have I ever critized for that? Stop making stuff up okay?
I agree with alot of her posts regarding the reasons WHY to prevent teen motherhood,but I do disagree with her exxagerating of it.
btw...she is not just talking about teens. She is including just motherhood in general. Again,most of it is exxagerating. She also takes worst case scenerio's including her own miserable experiences and acts like it counts for ALL pregnancies and mothering experiences. She said her pregnancy SUCKED. Mine didn't. So,she should act like ALL pregnancy/mothering is a negative experience.
In fact,she even posted 1,000 reasons why not to become a mother.
Helloooooo....there proves my point that she is anti-motherhood in general. It's quite obvious Katie,and you know it. She is SO freakin happy to be pregnancy free for 20 plus years. GOOD FOR HER.
You say all the above pretending Ocean doesn't have a son whom she loves. You throw criticism at me while you're at it. I'm not the one's who's a mess here, princess.

Honesty is a good thing. You should try it first in your thinking then in your writing. You may even see some improvement. Then the rest of us will, too.

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#278663 Jan 21, 2013
sassyliciouus wrote:
<quoted text> What does this have to do with what I said?.
Proaborts on here agree that the fetus is killed during an abortion.
WHO is killing her fetus?
WHO hired that person to kill her fetus?
WHO is paying that person to kill?
If a killing takes place and the proaborts agree to that,they why are they afraid to call the Dr a killer...and the mother who WANTS her baby killed,the killer?
See that f i n e line there?
Guilt.
As far as your above questions? Abortion/killing is legal. Just like the death penalty kind of killing is legal. People fight AGAINST those kind of killings to change the law.
Why do Catholics avoid referring to priests as homosexuals when they molest little boys? It's all in the context Sassy.
Katie

Seattle, WA

#278664 Jan 21, 2013
AyakaNeo wrote:
<quoted text>All zefs are killed weather it's spontaneous abortion or not.
Exactly. Basic concept regarding nonexistent differences between spontaneous and induced abortion. Whether it's God and the body doing the killing OR a medical procedure and the mind doing it. Pregnancy is rejected.
feces for jesus

Brooklyn, NY

#278665 Jan 21, 2013
Susanm wrote:
<quoted text>
The conversation began with comparing God to an abortionist which would mean that all zefs are killed.
Since 1 in 4 pregnant women miscarry, you should be unhappy with your super special God for ending a life.

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#278666 Jan 21, 2013
sassyliciouus wrote:
<quoted text> """The number of drunk driving fatalities has steadily decreased""" "
False.
Interesting that you compare abortion to guns and alcohol restrictions.
Chicky said "there is nothing wrong with abortion" so why are people interested in/agree with restrictions?
That makes them anti-choice to RESTRICT her rights. To FORCE her to gestate against her will. To penalize her for finding out that she was pregnant after the restrictions.
Welcome to our prolife world where we DO want her to give life and to prevent her from chosing death for her child.
Who is legislating these restrictive laws? Anti Choice or Pro Life?
Katie

Seattle, WA

#278667 Jan 21, 2013
sassyliciouus wrote:
<quoted text> Elise called a delivered,still attached fetus,an infant. Do you agree? Do you think that "technically" it is still a fetus?
Is this a hypothetical question of when fetus magically becomes baby or is this a question regarding my personal opinion of when fetus becomes baby?

If it's regarding my personal opinion, I answered that one already. I said my personal opinion is it's a baby once viable, in the womb, and will probably survive outside the womb, on its own.
What do you mean that "not that this is my personal opinion"? You answered that "technically a fetus until the cord is cut". According to whom?
My personal opinion according to me. To whom else would it be according?
Which is it? a fetus or infant?
If *it* dies before the cord is cut,and STILL attached to moms body via the cord,is it considered a stillborn ?
It's technically considered a stillborn if it hasn't taken its first breath. Here, you are also trying to combine two different concepts into one.
sassyliciouus

Jackson, NJ

#278668 Jan 21, 2013
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
You say all the above pretending Ocean doesn't have a son whom she loves. You throw criticism at me while you're at it. I'm not the one's who's a mess here, princess.
Honesty is a good thing. You should try it first in your thinking then in your writing. You may even see some improvement. Then the rest of us will, too.
Do you know Ocean IRL? So,you know that she loves her son? So,you know that she doesn't regret having him? Who would really know that?

Doesn't matter anyway. I am not talking about whether or not she does or doesn't. I am not pretending anything. I am going by what SHE posts. She posted that the other poster whinnes and b*tches about having to do housework because that is how she interprets his posts(I didn't see that at all). But,what I have for fact,IS her spamming posts b*tching and complaining ENDLESS(on this forum and other forums as well)about the NEGATIVES of pregnancy and motherhood. She even posted 1,000 reasons(article)about why NOT to have children.

Yeah,Katie.....she doesn't like pregnancy OR motherhood. Stop pretending.

It's like a person who b*tches and moans about marriage. The HATE being married. Does that necessarily mean they "hate" their spouse? No. Maybe yes. Just the same,the negative attention ON marriage is a reflection of that persons experience.

Is there truth IN that spamming? Sure. No different than marriage or ones job. But,there ARE the joys,and positive that go with it...which OUTWEIGH the negative.

FTR,most of oceans spamming is not common or shared by most mothers. So,her worst case scenerio's are meant for her own agenda.

AGAIN...she is HAPPY TO BE PREGNANCY FREE FOR OVER 20 PLUS YEARS. PREGNANCY SUCKS is her every day message.

Speaks volumes.
sassyliciouus

Jackson, NJ

#278669 Jan 21, 2013
AyakaNeo wrote:
<quoted text>Who is legislating these restrictive laws? Anti Choice or Pro Life?
Not the point. My point is that the ones who call themselves PRO-CHOICE are not really pro-choice. They are ANTI-CHOICE/prolife after a certain point. They agree with restrictions. They want to FORCE a woman to gestate(as they say to us prolifers). It's is the truth,they do. Which is a Total contradiction.

Of course the prolifers/anti-choice to kill people will take what they can to save a life. If it is protection AFTER viability,then for now,that's a good thing.
Katie

Seattle, WA

#278670 Jan 21, 2013
chickyisnotbrilliant wrote:
<quoted text>The zef is still a human being created in God's Image, still has DNA separate from his or her parents. One day someone will say your seventy, time to die, your life isn't worth anything anymore, your not productive so line up and get your shot .
Why do the majority of you waste time contemplating these far-fetched ideas? If civil rights to personal privacy and bodily autonomy remain the same when I'm 70, I will decide for myself if it's time to die or not based on my quality of life. Nobody else will legally be able to do this for me except my loved one with a durable POA. And they will be acting on my behalf as my surrogate if I am unable to act for myself.

You guys have a knack of complicating and convoluting basic ideas and concepts. All while overlooking the simplicity of it all.
sassyliciouus

Jackson, NJ

#278671 Jan 21, 2013
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
Is this a hypothetical question of when fetus magically becomes baby or is this a question regarding my personal opinion of when fetus becomes baby?
If it's regarding my personal opinion, I answered that one already. I said my personal opinion is it's a baby once viable, in the womb, and will probably survive outside the womb, on its own.
<quoted text>
My personal opinion according to me. To whom else would it be according?
<quoted text>
It's technically considered a stillborn if it hasn't taken its first breath. Here, you are also trying to combine two different concepts into one.
I see a pattern here with you. You like to play the game of convenient words. If you don't want to answer right out,you use the word *technically*.

According to Elise the nurse,it is not "technically" a fetus. It is an infant.

A stillborn means that is still a fetus. Which,btw,means it is still attached to moms body and if you are a PRO-CHOICER who lives up to her words,then she should still have a right to control the fate of that pregnancy(to kill or let live).

So many inconsistencies,so little time.
Katie

Seattle, WA

#278672 Jan 21, 2013
sassyliciouus wrote:
<quoted text> Do you know Ocean IRL? So,you know that she loves her son? So,you know that she doesn't regret having him? Who would really know that?
Doesn't matter anyway. I am not talking about whether or not she does or doesn't. I am not pretending anything. I am going by what SHE posts. She posted that the other poster whinnes and b*tches about having to do housework because that is how she interprets his posts(I didn't see that at all). But,what I have for fact,IS her spamming posts b*tching and complaining ENDLESS(on this forum and other forums as well)about the NEGATIVES of pregnancy and motherhood. She even posted 1,000 reasons(article)about why NOT to have children.
Yeah,Katie.....she doesn't like pregnancy OR motherhood. Stop pretending.
It's like a person who b*tches and moans about marriage. The HATE being married. Does that necessarily mean they "hate" their spouse? No. Maybe yes. Just the same,the negative attention ON marriage is a reflection of that persons experience.
Is there truth IN that spamming? Sure. No different than marriage or ones job. But,there ARE the joys,and positive that go with it...which OUTWEIGH the negative.
FTR,most of oceans spamming is not common or shared by most mothers. So,her worst case scenerio's are meant for her own agenda.
AGAIN...she is HAPPY TO BE PREGNANCY FREE FOR OVER 20 PLUS YEARS. PREGNANCY SUCKS is her every day message.
Speaks volumes.
That's your opinion of Ocean's posts then.

I see something different when I read her posts. I haven't forgotten when she posted about her son or how she was happy she'd had one, but is now done. As is her right. Just as it's yours to have the amount of kids you have.

You made your individual choices, she made hers. Win/win.
sassyliciouus

Jackson, NJ

#278673 Jan 21, 2013
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do the majority of you waste time contemplating these far-fetched ideas? If civil rights to personal privacy and bodily autonomy remain the same when I'm 70, I will decide for myself if it's time to die or not based on my quality of life. Nobody else will legally be able to do this for me except my loved one with a durable POA. And they will be acting on my behalf as my surrogate if I am unable to act for myself.
You guys have a knack of complicating and convoluting basic ideas and concepts. All while overlooking the simplicity of it all.
You don't think that there are those who believe in and practice Euthanasia?

From what I heard,universal health care give first dibs to the healthy and based on the quality of your life(age,illness if terminal,etc)are second in line.

Look at it this way Katie,abortion is legal,and YOU as a mom and grandmother,ALREADY support killing those based on quality of life(location,maturity,develop ment). With THIS evil mentality,the future looks REALLY grim for the next decided "victims".
feces for jesus

Brooklyn, NY

#278674 Jan 21, 2013
sassyliciouus wrote:
<quoted text> Dying naturally is not being "killed". A spontaneous abortion is not the same as an elective abortion.
No one has said they are the same, but you are right except that in a spontaneous abortion, it's your God willing that life to cease....... or does God not have anything to do with death in your fantasy world.
sassyliciouus

Jackson, NJ

#278675 Jan 21, 2013
AyakaNeo wrote:
<quoted text>Why do Catholics avoid referring to priests as homosexuals when they molest little boys? It's all in the context Sassy.
Once AGAIN,we go off topic to avoid what was said by me.

The Priests who molest little boys were/are homosexuals.

You had a point?
Katie

Seattle, WA

#278676 Jan 21, 2013
sassyliciouus wrote:
<quoted text> I see a pattern here with you. You like to play the game of convenient words. If you don't want to answer right out,you use the word *technically*.
According to Elise the nurse,it is not "technically" a fetus. It is an infant.
A stillborn means that is still a fetus. Which,btw,means it is still attached to moms body and if you are a PRO-CHOICER who lives up to her words,then she should still have a right to control the fate of that pregnancy(to kill or let live).
So many inconsistencies,so little time.
Okay, that's Elise's opinion. Mine is different.

Different doesn't equal wrong, JM.

If you insist on dragging this hypothetical back out, here's the full answer. Just remember, it was you in your last post to me that did not include my FULL answer and focused only on cord being attached.

Why bother wasting my time when you put out my answer piece by piece? What a doofus thing to do, JM.

Technically, fetus becomes baby once the cord is cut and baby's taken its first breath. That's the answer to the hypothetical. This is based on the medical technicality that a stillborn is delivered when it's not taken any breath and is considered dead whether it's still attached to the umbilical cord or not.

Remember, you're the one who tried to convolute two different basic concepts. And here, you're doing it again. All while pointing your finger at me and claiming I'm playing word games.

<eye roll>

“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#278677 Jan 21, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
Seriously? Are you really this stupid?
You see no difference between you dying, and you killing?
If you die, it's no different than if you kill?
Really?
You can't tell that those two things are NOT the same as a question between dying naturally and BEING killed?
Really, Witless Jr.?
Epic fail, Bitner. It is YOU who misread her question because you lack reading comprehension skills. So what if she asked if there was a difference between "dying and killing". Had you understood from the beginning that the post from Kenose she was replying to was about a FETUS, you'd have understood she meant difference between a fetus dying naturally as opposed to killing a fetus.

That stupid error was yours and yours alone, Toots.

“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#278678 Jan 21, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
YOU seem to think so, as you ASKED about dying vs killing.
You're a brain twisted mess, Bitner.

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