Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 310006 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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Ocean56

AOL

#273076 Dec 30, 2012
sassyliciouus wrote:
I can't stop women from killing their existing child in or out of the womb. That doesn't make that act any more or less evil.
There are people in this world practically ever minute who are abusing, neglecting, raping, killing. It's their decision and nothing we can do to stop it. Does that empower that wrongdoer? Does it "stick it to you" that your powerless?
You're a control freak who gets cheap thrills from feeling empowered by getting away with doing evil to others.
Oh, NONSENSE, sASSy. There's nothing "evil" about a woman who makes the choice NOT to continue a pregnancy, especially when she never wanted to BE pregnant in the first place.

As far as I'M concerned, the real control freaks are the anti-choice nutjobs like you, who would like nothing better than to turn the clock back on women's reproductive rights. Luckily for all of us, you don't get to make choices for anyone but yourself.
Ocean56

AOL

#273077 Dec 30, 2012
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
Yes, I've met people who were great parents but confided that the wished they didn't have kids, or they thought they had kids too soon.
And I've known people whose whole life happily revolves around kids. It's personal for everyone. Many people want lots of kids and many are content with just one. Many grandparents love spending plenty of time with the grandchildren and many love being free to do what they want. There really is no one size fits all.
Exactly, LNM. Reproduction -- or lack thereof -- is purely an INDIVIDUAL choice, and each person has the right to make his and her own reproductive decisions. Whether others approve of those decisions or not is irrelevant.

Gtown71

United States

#273078 Dec 30, 2012
Ocean56 wrote:
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NONSENSE. Contrary to what regressive anti-choice morons want everyone to believe, there is NOTHING wrong with people who choose never to have children. Parenthood isn't for everyone, which all intelligent and rational people have known for a long time.
No matter how much you whine about it, parenthood is OPTIONAL for all people, not required. That means any woman or man can reject parenthood for any reason, and suffer NO guilt for not procreating. Yes, I know that pisses you off. Too bad.
being a parent has always been an option for smart people.
in the past , if people didnt want to have kids they didnt have sex.
if they " chose" to have sex and then had a baby, they dealt with it, like smart people do. only recently has women been able to solve this problem by having her baby killed. that should make people a little upset, but then all the women who were all for having the option, to get away with killing their child, began to make their voices heard, and also wanted and got all people to help pay to kill their baby.

these same people want to put a man in prison for years for hurting a dog , but has no problem killing babies.

micheal Vick should have never even got in trouble for hurting or killing dogs, in a country that allows controling women kill their babies and gets the public to pay for their mistakes.

women rights, have been turned into some womens desires.
Ocean56

AOL

#273079 Dec 30, 2012
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
Yes, we all do, and many people choose to avail themselves of birth control, which is also against RCC dogma. You RCCers don't want abortions, you don't want birth control, and you don't want sex education....and that leads to women being breeders for the RCC.
If you fundies were REALLY against abortion you wouldn't be roadblocking birth control and sex education. Why don't you help and get a snip snip done on your balls? Last I knew the RCC wasn't against that...they only butt in on what women are doing.
Personally, I'm not sure that the RCC approves of vasectomies if a guy just wanted one because he never wanted kids. The idea that a man or woman can avoid procreation entirely is anathema to the Catholic Church hierarchy.

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#273080 Dec 30, 2012
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
I said if people lived according to Gods word, which meant His "plan ", and if all did, then yes it would wipe away sooo much of the trouble we face today.
Married people wouldn't get divirced.
men would love their wives, like christ loved the church, and give themselves up for her, so she would gladly submit to him.
Seriously? Obviously you have been "taught" the bible and have NOT read it for yourself.

The bible is a manmade man written male hierarchy system. Women are not free but mere possessions of men.

Here is just a couple of my favorites! How convenient this "god" makes it for the "male" to "rape" justifiably. Now tell me again how women were not "possessions"?

Deut. 21:10-14
When you go forth to war against your enemies, and the Lord your God has delivered them into your hands, and you have taken them captive,
And you see among the captives a beautiful woman, and desire her, and take her for a wife -
Then you shall bring her home to your house, and she shall shave her head and do her nails,
And she shall remove the garment of her captivity from her, and remain in your house and weep for her father and mother a for month, and after that you may approach her and have intercourse with her, and she shall be your wife.
And if you do not want her, you shall send her out on her own; you shall not sell her at all for money, you shall not treat her as a slave, because you "violated" her.

Leviticus 19
19:20 And whosoever lieth carnally with a woman, that is a bondmaid, betrothed to an husband, and not at all redeemed, nor freedom given her; she shall be scourged; they shall not be put to death, because she was not free.
19:21 And he shall bring his trespass offering unto the LORD, unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, even a ram for a trespass offering.
19:22 And the priest shall make an atonement for him with the ram of the trespass offering before the LORD for his sin which he hath done: and the sin which he hath done shall be forgiven him.
Ocean56

AOL

#273081 Dec 30, 2012
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
5. I never said the RCC was against sex. I said they are against abortion AND birth control AND sex education. So they don't care about reducing abortions by teaching young people about reproduction and allowing birth control. They just want to write the rules they want people to follow.
Precisely. The RCC can't handle the fact that it DOESN'T control everyone's sexual and reproductive decisions, not in the United States anyway. I say too bad for those clowns.

Both men and women are free to use reliable contraception to AVOID unwanted pregnancy. In the case of teens, I believe they are better off avoiding sex entirely until they are of legal age to be independent of their parents and make their own decisions. We all know that NO contraceptive method is 100% guaranteed against unwanted pregnancy, so even if a girl is on BC, a pregnancy could still happen.

Too many girls make the huge mistake of believing they can't get pregnant because they're on some form of birth control. That is so NOT true.
Ocean56

AOL

#273082 Dec 30, 2012
Helpful Rules For Teens In PREVENTING Pregnancy and STD's

1. NEVER consent to sex if you know you aren't on birth control and a guy tells you he doesn't have or use condoms (make sure you ask him about condoms BEFORE having sex).

2. ALWAYS use protection, whether it is condoms, the pill, or both, any and EVERY time you decide to have sex. Not using protection even ONE time will result in an unwanted pregnancy sooner or later.

3. ALWAYS be aware that all contraceptive methods can fail and that pregnancy could result.

4. NEVER assume you can't get pregnant because you're on birth control, even the pill.

5. NEVER let yourself be pressured into having sex if you really don't want to do it.

6. NEVER believe a guy who says "trust me, you can't get pregnant." Don't have sex with this guy either.

7. NEVER cave in to pressure to get pregnant (or to cause a pregnancy) if you have any doubts about or unwillingness to be a mom or a dad.

8. NEVER be afraid to dump a boyfriend or girlfriend if he/she pressures you to do things you don't want to do.

9. NEVER assume that having anal sex cannot cause pregnancy or a sexually transmitted disease. It can do both.

10. ALWAYS ask exactly what a guy means when he says "I'm old fashioned." It could mean he believes that girls are ONLY meant to be wives and mothers and nothing else. Don't have sex with this guy, as it could be a trap.

11. ALWAYS keep busy with studies and school or extracurricular activities that you really like and don't want to GIVE UP.
Gtown71

United States

#273083 Dec 30, 2012
Morgana 9 wrote:
<quoted text>
Seriously? Obviously you have been "taught" the bible and have NOT read it for yourself.
The bible is a manmade man written male hierarchy system. Women are not free but mere possessions of men.
Here is just a couple of my favorites! How convenient this "god" makes it for the "male" to "rape" justifiably. Now tell me again how women were not "possessions"?
Deut. 21:10-14
When you go forth to war against your enemies, and the Lord your God has delivered them into your hands, and you have taken them captive,
And you see among the captives a beautiful woman, and desire her, and take her for a wife -
Then you shall bring her home to your house, and she shall shave her head and do her nails,
And she shall remove the garment of her captivity from her, and remain in your house and weep for her father and mother a for month, and after that you may approach her and have intercourse with her, and she shall be your wife.
And if you do not want her, you shall send her out on her own; you shall not sell her at all for money, you shall not treat her as a slave, because you "violated" her.
Leviticus 19
19:20 And whosoever lieth carnally with a woman, that is a bondmaid, betrothed to an husband, and not at all redeemed, nor freedom given her; she shall be scourged; they shall not be put to death, because she was not free.
19:21 And he shall bring his trespass offering unto the LORD, unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, even a ram for a trespass offering.
19:22 And the priest shall make an atonement for him with the ram of the trespass offering before the LORD for his sin which he hath done: and the sin which he hath done shall be forgiven him.
When, where, and to whom this or any scripture was written aside, do you believe the bible, is the inspired word of God?

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#273084 Dec 30, 2012
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
I fully understand how you feel that only people who think like you, are the only people that " matter",
I see your screwed up comprehension issues are still around. Selective blindness is not an attractive feature in a fundi BS'hitter.

YOU do not matter. I dont matter either. THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT MATTER ARE THE ONES MAKING THE DECISIONS FOR THEMSELVES!
you see, believe it or not, many people do love God, and enjoy seeing someone write their testamony, becouse they also have one.
@@ And MOST poeple know how to keep it in context AND to do it in the proper place and time. The proper place and time is not EVERY post on a social networking forum among people of different faiths.

See, this is your downfall BS'hitter. You dont know when enough is enough, you've got to go over the top every time and you blow it.

You did it as a raped woman, as a "cop" (that was funny as shit tho) etc.. etc..

This time you blew it when you claimed to be an ex athiest that "hated g-d".@@

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#273085 Dec 30, 2012
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
You can try to spin the facts, if you want.
You go under a few names here, making comments, then replying to your own comments, to make soo many believe your lies.
No dear. I dont. But hey, good try!

LOL
Everyone fully knows all about a few judges who's decisions made abortion legal, so I would advise you (whatever name you post under) to atleast not call people a liar, when they post about something anyone who knows how to read, already knows as truth.
Oh now you change your tune and backpedal furiously.

Your claim was that these "g-dless judges" "FORCED" the murder of children.

I maintain, you are a LIAR. The judges on the Supreme Court are certainly NOT "g-dless" and none of them caused ANY CHILDREN TO BE MURDERED as you claimed.

These are YOUR claims, so either NAME THE "G-dless judges" YOU claim 'FORCED THE MURDER OF CHIDLREN" or stop lying in your jesus's name.
Proving God, is easy for those who really seek, but you would be the very one in the crowd, who bears false witness against God.
I cannot say anything, that will change your mind. Plus I don't want to.
Anything one person can talk you into, another person can talk you out of.
God will have to get your attention, I just pray you realize it when He does.
Stinky, as you well know, I'm Jewish and your jesus is completely meaningless to me since its not my faith. My relationship with G-d is like most things, none of your business.

But your phony religous bullshit is noted BS'hitter.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#273086 Dec 30, 2012
Tom Tom wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes he can. biter has done it all the time and you have defended her.
I may not agree with his saying that he hated God when he didn't beleive in him but I do agree with his choice to hate god before he beleieved in him.
Makes perfect sense. He can hate a concept before beleiving in the true God. He was born again.
You proabort pagans are hypocrites.
You're a moron. It makes NO sense. Do you believe in unicorns? Do you HATE unicorns? Do you believe in flying pink teddy bears? Do you HATE flying pink teddy bears??

Now lets get a bit more realistic. Do you believe in Buddah, the diety that the Dali Lami believes in? Do you HATE Budda OR the Dali Lama for that matter?

Of course not, because one doesn't "hate" what they dont believe in to begin with.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#273087 Dec 30, 2012
No Relativism wrote:
<quoted text>
NR: "Preborn baby is clearly affected by abortion...to death."
FooManSpew: "Yes dear, that IS the point of abortion."
_______
^^^ That's a first. FooManSpew finally admits what the purpose & intent of abortion is - to kill preborn babies.^^^
ROFLMAO No, its not a first. The purpose and intent of abortion IS to end the pregnancy, and to do that the embryo, zyote or fetus is eliminated and removed.

Your hyperbolic bullshit about 'preborn babies' is just that, bullshit. But yes, the PURPOSE in plain language - as has been stated MANY times, IS to end the pregnancy and kill and evactuate the unwanted embryo, zyogte or fetus.

You act like this is news @@.
Kenose

East Meadow, NY

#273088 Dec 30, 2012
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
You may say what you wish, just like trying to say Hell is not in the bible.
I think even atheist (like I once was) knows better.
You try and say there is no Hell, becouse you know in your heart, that if there is, then you are in trouble.
(There is)(you are)
You even tried to correct my grammer (your -you're ) and that's fine, I admit I'm not the greatest at grammer.
That alone should shock people like yourself, to hear a man say what he is not good in, since y'all think you are so smart. Oh by the way -you spelled hell -hel in the same post you tried to correct me in.
Jesus Christ died for you, if you want to turn away, from such a beautifull thing, it is your choice, but I truly pray you don't.
I also ask you to consider how you want others to prove God is real, yet why are you telling others about Hell? If God isn't real, then there is no Hell, so why are you preaching about Hell?
Most atheist talk about god, more then many christians I know.
I geuss, they run into people who call them names, and cuss, and try to act scary, but I'm not impressed.
Dogs bark, ducks quack, and heathern rage.
#1 I never said "there is no hel/hell"

#2 Hel is the original spelling of the word.

It is now obvious that you're incapable of debating anything. You think you know it all and your mind is closed to anything that opposes your precious point of view. That you refuse to accept the simple fact that the word Hel/hell isn't in the bible shows that you're just brainwashed and can't think for yourself. You're not born again, you're just a slave to a lie.
Kenose

East Meadow, NY

#273089 Dec 30, 2012
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
I truly don't know where you come up with your numbers.
If you read the bible, you would see how common it was to live into the hundreds of years. 7,8,900+ years old.
Like the guy trying to preach no Hell, please either believe the bible is the word of God, or it isn't , but please don't be like so many, who like to say the bible is a lie, but a book written around the same time, a few years later, that is against anything in the bible is true.
I didn't say if people lived by the bible, if I did I'm sorry, since there was gay peoole, adultry, you name it back then, just like now. I said if people lived according to Gods word, which meant His "plan ", and if all did, then yes it would wipe away sooo much of the trouble we face today.
Married people wouldn't get divirced.
men would love their wives, like christ loved the church, and give themselves up for her, so she would gladly submit to him.
No diseases as far as std's
Before the flood, we lived in a much different world, but that is another topic.
I will say, the earth is young, our society is disolving, not evolving.
Provide evidence of a "The Flood", please.
Provide evidence that the bible is "the word of God", please.
Lasly, provide evidence that people live to be 700-900 years old, please.

With no evidence to back up your biblical claims, you've got nothing to stand on except your ego and pride.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#273090 Dec 30, 2012
The writers of the bible were idiots. According to many fundies, the earth itself is only 6000 years old, making those long lives absolutely impossible. Clearly, the concept of "year" was a much shorter time measurement than what we use.

Which plan? Hundreds of wives and concubines seemed okay with your god. So did being forced to impregnate your brother's widow. Any way you slice it, your deity's plan seems to favor the husband.

I think you're going to have a great deal of difficulty getting most women to submit to their husbands.

BTW--if everyone was destroyed but noah's little group, how could there be STD's at all? Who was harboring the microbes?

Our society is evolving to adapt to both physical and intellectual changes. We have amassed so much knowledge that it will take time to assimilate it.
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>d
I truly don't know where you come up with your numbers.
If you read the bible, you would see how common it was to live into the hundreds of years. 7,8,900+ years old.
Like the guy trying to no Hell, please either believe the bible is the word of God, or it isn't , but please don't be like so many, who like to say the bible is a lie, but a book written around the same time, a few years later, that is against anything in the bible is true.
I didn't say if people lived by the bible, if I did I'm sorry, since there was gay peoole, adultry, you name it back then, just like now. I said if people lived according to Gods word, which meant His "plan ", and if all did, then yes it would wipe away sooo much of the trouble we face today.
Married people wouldn't get divirced.
men would love their wives, like christ loved the church, and give themselves up for her, so she would gladly submit to him.
No diseases as far as std's
Before the flood, we lived in a much different world, but that is another topic.
I will say, the earth is young, our society is disolving, not evolving.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#273091 Dec 30, 2012
Then you were an agnostic, not an atheist.

Not believing in something for which there is no proof is not hating; it's purely logical. Now that you have your own deity, do you think thor, zeus, etc, are or could also be real?
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
yes I understand. if you read past my first sentence you would see , that I said I truly did not believe in a god, but if there was one, then I hated him.
kinda like the atheist I talk to now, they say they dont believe in god but then again they are not completly against the idea, but most cannot believe in any god that has been presented to them thus far.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#273092 Dec 30, 2012
Maybe it's all those men pushing anti-abortion laws that give people the idea.

Sex is healthy for men and women alike. People don't have to justify it, and it isn't an offense to be punished with an unwanted pregnancy.

Many women want to have children--when the time is right. Until that time, they are free to resolve any pregnancy as they see fit.
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
can you tell me why you like to think men want to control what goes on inside of a womans body, after the woman gets pregnant, when it is pretty clear you are overjoyed that the woman is in control over not only her body, but the baby and control of the mans life, that gets her pregnant?
Out of control would fit better, when 3000 women a day, could not control the situation, untill it is at a point where a living being is killed.
Heres just an idea -I don't know anyone who wants to force any girl into becomming a mother, if she don't want to, and unless raped their is no way at all she can get pregnant, unless she willingly has sex with a male.
So if a girl is 100% sure, that she don't want to be a mother, then why not get "fixed ", just like my sister -in -law did?
or (I know this is a shocker) she could just not have sex?

“Dan IS the Man”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#273093 Dec 30, 2012
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
I was a God hating atheist for 20 years.
If there was a God, I hated him, and wanted nothing to do with anyone who believed in Any god.
Then, and now, I can't remember anyone being able to FORCE me into anything.
Do you not see, that many americans feel like the pro choice people FORCED their views on us?
Everyone on earth suffers, sooner or later.
I was raised, in a very large family.
My dad was 52 and mom 40, when I was born.
I found my father dead, when I was 9 my mother died, when I was 21, and I buried over 95% of my large family between the two.
I also found out, that my mom and dad had been having a affair for over 10 years "before getting caught, and choosing to marry and have me and my sister.
I know all about pain.
I hated just about everyone, but even more if you were a christian.
Thanks be to God, for waking me up at 1:30 am, and after struggling for a bit, I surrendered to this God, that for years I hated.
I now love Him.
He not me He changed all the views inside me, that I would have fought for, before I was saved.
Abortion is one of those views.
You may call me what you will, but my story is true, and I know you can't see it, becouse I to used to be so blind.
Wrong wrong wrong...

"I was a God hating atheist for 20 years."

What? If you really were an atheist you would not believe there was a god to "hate". You can't "hate" what you don't think exists. Nice try...don't you believe on this one.

"Do you not see, that many americans feel like the pro choice people FORCED their views on us?"

Ridiculous. Pro-CHOICE people believe everyone should be able to make their own choices...hence the term "pro-choice". You are free to make your own choices, nothing is forced on you. The fundies, however, want to force their religious dogma on everyone. They want everyone to follow their rules.

"I surrendered to this God, that for years I hated."

No, you said you were an atheist, remember? You could not have hated God "for years" and be an atheist. The 2 don't go together.

You are Bright Sun. I see it now.

“Dan IS the Man”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#273094 Dec 30, 2012
BraveCon wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for clarifying your position and I want to thank you, as a Pro-Life supporter, that you never had an abortion.
I wanted to refute your blanket condemnations. You said (paraphrased) that we worship orgasms, I believe? Do you really think that people who simply support other people's freedom to make their own personal decisions equates with us all worshiping orgasms? Do you really think that every pro-choice person has had abortions? Countless numbers of pro-choice women would not choose to get an abortion. If someone says they are pro-choice that doesn't automatically mean that they would choose abortion. And if someone does make that choice it doesn't mean they now are the object of scorn and judgement. You want the freedom to make your own decisions so allow that same freedom to others.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#273095 Dec 30, 2012
Smart people would practice safe sex; evidently, this means that most heteros must be rock stupid.

Abortion has been around for millennia; there is nothing "recent" about it except the ability to do it more safely and efficiently. When this country was founded, abortion was legal in every state. Even at the time of Roe v Wade, it was still legal in many states.

Vick was a torturer of animals who had full awareness of every injury, every kick, and every jolt of electricity. The dogs were not living in his body.

You clearly have anger issues with women; you keep refering to them as "controlling". They certainly have the right to control their own body and to have treated any unwanted physical condition.
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
being a parent has always been an option for smart people.
in the past , if people didnt want to have kids they didnt have sex.
if they " chose" to have sex and then had a baby, they dealt with it, like smart people do. only recently has women been able to solve this problem by having her baby killed. that should make people a little upset, but then all the women who were all for having the option, to get away with killing their child, began to make their voices heard, and also wanted and got all people to help pay to kill their baby.
these same people want to put a man in prison for years for hurting a dog , but has no problem killing babies.
micheal Vick should have never even got in trouble for hurting or killing dogs, in a country that allows controling women kill their babies and gets the public to pay for their mistakes.
women rights, have been turned into some womens desires.

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