Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 311595 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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#266856 Nov 30, 2012
CD, this is for you and your girls - enjoy and happy holidays!!

No Relativism

Chicago, IL

#266857 Nov 30, 2012
Kenose wrote:
<quoted text>
You're the idiot on a pp witch hunt, failing to understand any problems with sexual education and not researching other factors that might contribute to increases in abortions or pregnancy. You can't be bothered to consider anything outside your narrow minded POV, but hey... at least you're consistent; your posts continue to not be relevant.
I don't mind you reaching outside of Planned Parenthood....AFTER you've stayed in Planned Parenthood first (you know, the orginal point was about Planned Parenthood?). You IMMEDIATELY dodged the subject & went outward. Huh, I wonder why?~~ shrug ~~
No Relativism

Chicago, IL

#266858 Nov 30, 2012
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
No one is talking about a child.
As for aborting a fetus, only a medical professional can make that determination, on a case by case basis.
We're talking about a little human.
No Relativism

Chicago, IL

#266859 Nov 30, 2012
Conservative Democrat wrote:
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We all see what we want to see. And you're not an exception. You can't argue with numbers and fact is, 97% more women are provided with pap smears, breast cancer screenings, and contraception than are provided with abortions at PP clinics.
CD: You can't argue with numbers and fact is, 97% more women are provided with pap smears, breast cancer screenings, and contraception than are provided with abortions at PP clinics.
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"In 2010, Planned ParenthoodÂ’s abortion income was 51.5 percent of its clinic income."

"Planned Parenthood continues to claim that abortion is three percent of its services in the 2010 report. By comparing the number of condoms, birth control pills, and other low cost items distributed to the number of abortions it commits, Planned Parenthood intentionally misleads the public and those in charge of providing government funding for its grisly business by painting a grossly inaccurate picture of what its business is all about"

http://www.lifenews.com/2012/01/05/planned-pa...

(Boy, look at that graph......abortion numbers at Planned Parenthood just keep going up and up.....so much for promoting sex & providing contraception services to reduce need for abortion, huh?)

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#266860 Nov 30, 2012
HuskerDu wrote:
<quoted text> No one needs to kill their child to save another nowadays.
No, but it is sometimes necessary to abort a pregnancy to save the life of the mother.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#266861 Nov 30, 2012
No Relativism wrote:
<quoted text>
We're talking about a little human.
"WE" are not talking about anything. I was talking to Nutter, who said "child". Do try to keep up.
Katie

Tacoma, WA

#266862 Nov 30, 2012
No Relativism wrote:
<quoted text>
You post is specifically addressing ectopic pregnancies. Here's the prolife approach to ectopic pregnancies. http://www.cuf.org/faithfacts/details_view.as...
The woman in Ireland who died of sepsis - after miscarrying & undergoing subsequent surgery - was 17 weeks pregnant. She did not have an ectopic pregnancy.
I've shared this webpage with you before regarding "life of mother" situations: http://www.prolifephysicians.org/rarecases.ht...
Figures. You didn't address the hypothetical.
No Relativism

Chicago, IL

#266863 Nov 30, 2012
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
CD, this is for you and your girls - enjoy and happy holidays!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =bkGuaTAD920XX
Foo: "to hell with the embryo or fetus."

Foo: "If its GOING TO DIE, if that's a known and forgone conclusion? Then yes,'rip him apart, crush his skull, squish his beating heart'"

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/abortion/T833...
_________

NR: Foo, you don't give any consideration to the dignity of the preborn baby. At all. Ever.
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Foo's post above: CD, this is for you and your girls - enjoy and happy holidays!!(YouTube video link)

_________

Awwwwwwww.........Foo was feeling self-conscious because she exposed her hate for children - again. So, we get to see her faux & insincere exposition of trying to appear interested & caring towards children.

Foo is as evil and inauthentic as they come..........
No Relativism

Chicago, IL

#266864 Nov 30, 2012
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
"WE" are not talking about anything. I was talking to Nutter, who said "child". Do try to keep up.
It is YOU who said those in the womb are humans.

Gee, why so grouchy?

Did you run out of butter for you butter & bacon sandwiches?
Katie

Tacoma, WA

#266865 Nov 30, 2012
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah yeah yeah.@@ They abort but dont CALL it an abortion. They CLAIM its an 'unintended consequence'....
Except of course thats BULLSHIT. Its a KNOWN consequence that is FULLY intended to save the life of the mother. Its not like they remove the embryo and try to keep it alive, they ABORT it. Period.
Call it a cumquat, its the same thing.
<quoted text>
She never said it was an ectopic pregnancy as you know, but nice try at deflection.
She died when an abortion was refused, and she was forced to have a five day miscarriage and who knows what else going on, rather than even TRY to save her life by removing something they KNEW would die, JUST like in an ectopic pregnancy.
Pity they didn't apply the same "logic" as they would to an ectopic.
<quoted text>
And nobody cared then either.
He's too complacent to really give it any thought, Foo. It's so much easier to command what others should do in difficult situations rather than actually walk a mile in the shoes of those who have faced those situations and learn from their experiences. Much easier to criticize than learn anyway. jmo
Katie

Tacoma, WA

#266866 Nov 30, 2012
No Relativism wrote:
<quoted text>
In one scenerio, preborn baby is alive & intentionally & directly killed. In the other situation, the preborn baby died naturally, & D&C removes his body.
So? Abortion is abortion is abortion regardless. It's the ending of pregnancy prior to term. You'll never be faced with that type of decision nor will you befriend any woman who has ... unless she's been indoctrinated into your cult-like thinking. jmo

“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

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#266867 Nov 30, 2012
AyakaNeo wrote:
<quoted text> No I think we said a D&C for a miscarriage is the same D&C for an any type of abortion. You're the only one who mentioned "medically" as far as I know.
...
You insist on posting your ignorance on what pro-choicers have posted. I'll have to show you once again, as I did when this discussion took place previously, just how bad your reading comprehension is and how bad your attenion to facts happens to be.

You posted this then:
post 262172 in this thread
Ayakaneo: "No one said a D&C for a spontaneous abortion was an elective abortion. Everyone has been telling you the procedure, the D&C is the exact same procedure done during an elective abortion."

I replied with:
~They didn't say it was called an "elective abortion", and I didn't claim they did. PLers have been saying that D&C's are not used as an "abortion procedure" in cases of a spontaneous abortion, but PCers still want to insist they are...
...Foo, Carbon, CPeter and Elise are PCers who have claimed that a D&C after miscarriage is an abortion procedure, and it's now been proven to Ayakeno, who claimed, "No one said a D&C for a spontaneous abortion was an elective abortion."~

I then provided the posts in which a couple of the people I mentioned did call a D&C after a miscarriage an "abortion", as Elise stated; and "abortion procedure" as Foo stated.:

Post 262385
Oct. 7, 2012
Elise wrote: "If the fetus is dead the woman is still pregnant and an abortion is performed to terminate the pregnancy and evacuate the uterus. An abortion is an abortion is an abortion as far as medicine is concerned. I don't know why you go on about that and about D&Cs, Lily."

Post 262413
Oct. 7, 2012
Foo wrote: "If a woman has a dead fetus in her, then yes, it IS an abortion procedure to get rid of the dead fetal matter."

Foo then LIED about saying she never said a D&C after miscarriage is an abortion procedure
post 262234
~Foo: "...I at NO time EVER made the claim that a D&C is an "abortion procedure for the treatment of an incomplete spontaneous abortion"

She said she never claimed it, "at NO TIME EVER". Just as she made the claim back in Jan of this year...~

There was also an earlier post made by Foo in reply to my post
213793

I posted, "...Women don't have "abortions" for a dead fetus that wasn't expelled from the uterus naturally. They have D&C's for that "miscarriage", not to abort or end anything. Just to clear the tissue out so it doesn't cause sepsis-blood poisoning."

Foo replied to my post with info about D&C's and D&E's, "...These are ALL forms of ABORTION to remove fetal matter from the uterus.""

Now you, Ayakaneo, are once again trying to claim the discussion didn't include pro-choicers calling a D&C after a miscarriage "an abortion procedure", when you posted yesterday, "No I think we said a D&C for a miscarriage is the same D&C for an any type of abortion."

Once again, you're wrong. The PCers I mentioned were saying a D&C after miscarriage is an abiortion/ abortion procedure. Doctors don't perform "abortions" for what already spontaneously aborted in early pregnancy; incomplete or otherwise. They perform a D&C,(dilation and curettage) to remove whatever's left in the uterus as a treatment for the prevention of sepsis. Which is what I said then and you fools argued with me about it, you defending the stupidity coming from pro-choicers.

Doing as you do in trying to present what you think pro-choicers have said or meant, when their words speak for themselves, displays your adult reading comprehension skills grade an F. You flunked again.

It's important to state the facts about D&C after miscarriage in early pregnancy and what PCers have said, because it displays how little the PCers here know, and then they lie months later acting like they never made the claims they made, but were saying what PLers said about a topic.

“Blessed Be”

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#266868 Nov 30, 2012
No Relativism wrote:
<quoted text>
It is YOU who said those in the womb are humans.
Gee, why so grouchy?
Did you run out of butter for you butter & bacon sandwiches?
Aw, it's so cute that you think you're being insulting. And you always fail.

“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

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#266869 Nov 30, 2012
AyakaNeo wrote:
<quoted text> Who said an abortion is a cure for miscarriage? A D&C is a D&C, it's the same D&C that scrapes the uterus in either an elective abortion, or any natural abortion. No one has remotely even come close to saying that should a women need a D&C for a miscarriage does the doctor say, "o.k are you ready for your abortion procedure?". The steps taken to empty the contents are no different in either case.
Ayakneo: "Who said an abortion is a cure for miscarriage?"

You did, fool. Holy cow, don't you understand your own posts?
Post 266797
No Relativism wrote:
Abortion procedures aren't treatments for miscarriage.

You replied: "Well yes they are."

Ayakaneo: "No one has remotely even come close to saying that should a women need a D&C for a miscarriage does the doctor say, "o.k are you ready for your abortion procedure?"."

When does any doctor say that, even for elective abortions? Pro-choicers have definitely said a D&C after miscarriage is an abortion procedure. I provided the proof that you're wrong in saying no one has said that, in my prior post.

That's how posts from the past can be used as proof in the present of what lies are being posted by pro-choicers, in the present.

How many times do you think you should be allowed to be "mistaken" about what's been posted here and in making certain claims about what pro-choicers supposedly have or have not said, before what you post is considered a lie?
Kenose

Brooklyn, NY

#266870 Nov 30, 2012
No Relativism wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't mind you reaching outside of Planned Parenthood....AFTER you've stayed in Planned Parenthood first (you know, the orginal point was about Planned Parenthood?). You IMMEDIATELY dodged the subject & went outward. Huh, I wonder why?~~ shrug ~~
I know logic isn't your strong point. Just because you want to connect sexual education with increases in pregnancy doesn't make it so.

http://www.acog.org/About%20ACOG/ACOG%20Depar...

"Careful and objective scholarly research during the last two decades has shown that sex education does not increase rates of sexual activity among teenagers...."

Can you find any confirm report that backs up your claim?

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/PPFA/r...

keep your head buried in the sand.

“2014 TDF”

Since: Mar 09

Boca Raton, FL.

#266871 Nov 30, 2012
No Relativism wrote:
<quoted text>
CD: You can't argue with numbers and fact is, 97% more women are provided with pap smears, breast cancer screenings, and contraception than are provided with abortions at PP clinics.
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"In 2010, Planned ParenthoodÂ’s abortion income was 51.5 percent of its clinic income."
And this tells you the practice is 51.5% abortions? LMAO!! Don't you know the Hyde Amendment prohibits the use of tax payer funds for abortions, except for those in the case of rape and incest? How much do you think an abortion costs, as compared to a pap smear, or a breast cancer screening, or a pack of lo-ovral, for which the guvmnt already has negotiated reduced pricing?
No Relativism wrote:
"Planned Parenthood continues to claim that abortion is three percent of its services in the 2010 report. By comparing the number of condoms, birth control pills, and other low cost items distributed to the number of abortions it commits, Planned Parenthood intentionally misleads the public and those in charge of providing government funding for its grisly business by painting a grossly inaccurate picture of what its business is all about"
http://www.lifenews.com/2012/01/05/planned-pa...
(Boy, look at that graph......abortion numbers at Planned Parenthood just keep going up and up.....so much for promoting sex & providing contraception services to reduce need for abortion, huh?)
Well, if you're going to throw lifenews.com at me as your source of authority, allow me to dismiss it as quickly as you would dismiss if I threw plannedparenthood.org at you as the source of mine.

I say this, because it was lifenews.com the site that chanted the proverbial "victory" on the SCOTUS ruling on the HHS issue, when victory has not even gotten her bra on for the party.

Try again.

“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

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#266872 Nov 30, 2012
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
<quoted text>
Here we go again.
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A D&C is a D&C NO MATTER WHAT ITS FOR. Period.
That's what I told you idiots from the beginning.
A D&C is a dilation and curettage, no matter what it's used for. It's not "an abortin procedure" as you prochoicers have claimed it is, since it's used for many other uterine issues as well, not relating to pregnancy. I've already proven you've called it an abortion procedure.

It was you ignorant pro-choice buffoons calling it an "abortion" procedure when used after miscarriage, and you were wrong. I said it was a dilation and curettage procedure regardless of what it's used for, and medically a D&C would not be called an abortion procedure when used for incomplete miscarriage.

You try to say what I've said all along about it; that a D&C is a D&C and not say it's an abortion procedure, as you have said before? What a bunch of fools you are to think that your posts with the truth of you views, claims and arguments can't be brought up to show you're claiming something different now than you did back when the discussions took place before.

“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

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#266873 Nov 30, 2012
AyakaNeo wrote:
<quoted text>Anyone who had integrity in honest discussion would not come on here as a poser.
Tell that to the pro-chociers, Toots.

By the way, I don't believe you've posted your real full name, "poser".

Let me know when you get THAT contradiction.

In the meantime, none of you has been able to provide any of my posts in which I POSTED lies. Pro-lifers have been able to provide so many posts where pro-choicers have POSTED lies, I've lost count.

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#266874 Nov 30, 2012
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
"WE" are not talking about anything. I was talking to Nutter, who said "child". Do try to keep up.
I love how the guy who has no control over any woman's decisions tries to control the discussion. Lol.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#266875 Nov 30, 2012
lil Lily wrote:
<quoted text>
Ayakneo: "Who said an abortion is a cure for miscarriage?"
You did, fool. Holy cow, don't you understand your own posts?
Post 266797
No Relativism wrote:
Abortion procedures aren't treatments for miscarriage.
You replied: "Well yes they are."
Ayakaneo: "No one has remotely even come close to saying that should a women need a D&C for a miscarriage does the doctor say, "o.k are you ready for your abortion procedure?"."
When does any doctor say that, even for elective abortions? Pro-choicers have definitely said a D&C after miscarriage is an abortion procedure. I provided the proof that you're wrong in saying no one has said that, in my prior post.
That's how posts from the past can be used as proof in the present of what lies are being posted by pro-choicers, in the present.
How many times do you think you should be allowed to be "mistaken" about what's been posted here and in making certain claims about what pro-choicers supposedly have or have not said, before what you post is considered a lie?
A treatment is not necessarily a cure.

Now, are you the same person who used to post here on Topix under the screen names of LynneD and Persevere?

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