Story of the Year: It's Global Warming, Stupid

Dec 31, 2012 Full story: Common Dreams 324

My favorite headline of 2012 was " It's Global Warming, Stupid ," which appeared on the cover of Bloomberg Businessweek on Nov.

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Since: Jan 13

Fairfax, VA

#326 Feb 14, 2013
Hey bro wrote:
Global warming or climate change is a false myth believed mostly by women.
Gee, I didn't know the top science organizations were run by women. LOL

**Organizations that say AGW is a FACT**
* National Academy of Sciences, United States [and NAS of every country]
* National Aeronautics & Space Administration (NASA)
* National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration (NOAA)
* National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR)
* National Science Foundation (NSF)
* American Institute of Physics (AIP)
* American Medical Association (AMA)
* Smithsonian Institution
* International Arctic Science Committee
* Arctic Council
* American Meteorological Society (AMS)
* American Physical Society (APS)
* U.S. Geological Survey (USGS)
* U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)
* The Royal Society of the United Kingdom
* Royal Meteorological Society, UK
* British Antarctic Survey
* European Science Foundation
* Chinese Academy of Sciences
* Académie des Sciences, France
* Institute of Biology, UK
* Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences
* Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
* European Federation of Geologists
* European Geosciences Union
* European Physical Society
* U.S. Agency for International Development
* United States Department of Agriculture
* National Institute of Standards and Technology
* United States Department of Defense
* United States Department of Energy
* National Institutes of Health
* United States Department of State
* United States Department of Transportation
* University Corporation for Atmospheric Research
* African Academy of Sciences
* Australian Academy of Sciences
* Royal Flemish Academy of Belgium for Sciences
and the Arts
* Academia Brasileira de Ciéncias
* Cameroon Academy of Sciences
* Royal Society of Canada
* Caribbean Academy of Sciences
* Ghana Academy of Arts and Sciences
* Deutsche Akademie der Naturforscher Leopoldina
of Germany
* Indonesian Academy of Sciences
* Royal Irish Academy
* Accademia nazionale delle scienze of Italy
* Indian National Science Academy
* Science Council of Japan
* Kenya National Academy of Sciences
* Madagascar's National Academy of Arts,
* Letters and Sciences
* Academy of Sciences Malaysia
* Academia Mexicana de Ciencias
* Nigerian Academy of Sciences
* Royal Society of New Zealand
* Polish Academy of Sciences
* Russian Academy of Sciences
*l'Académie des Sciences et Techniques
du Sénégal
* Academy of Science of South Africa
* Sudan Academy of Sciences
* Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences
* Tanzania Academy of Sciences
* Turkish Academy of Sciences
* Uganda National Academy of Sciences
* Zambia Academy of Sciences
* American Academy of Pediatrics
* American Association for the Advancement
of Science
* American Association of Wildlife Veterinarians
* American Astronomical Society
* American Chemical Society
* American College of Preventive Medicine
* American Geophysical Union
* American Public Health Association
* American Quaternary Association
* American Institute of Biological Sciences
* American Society of Agronomy
* American Society for Microbiology
* American Society of Plant Biologists
* American Statistical Association
* Association of Ecosystem Research Centers
* Botanical Society of America
* Crop Science Society of America
* Ecological Society of America
* Federation of American Scientists
* Geological Society of America
* National Association of Geoscience Teachers
* Natural Science Collections Alliance
* Organization of Biological Field Stations
* Society of American Foresters
* Society for Industrial and Applied Mathematics
* Society of Systematic Biologists
* Soil Science Society of America
* Australian Coral Reef Society
* Australian Medical Association
* Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
* Federation of Australian Scientific and Technological Societies
* Geological Society of Australia
* International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics
* Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change

Since: Jan 13

Fairfax, VA

#327 Feb 14, 2013
or that women ran NASA:

Climate change: How do we know?

The Earth's climate has changed throughout history. Just in the last 650,000 years there have been seven cycles of glacial advance and retreat, with the abrupt end of the last ice age about 7,000 years ago marking the beginning of the modern climate era — and of human civilization. Most of these climate changes are attributed to very small variations in Earth’s orbit that change the amount of solar energy our planet receives.

The current warming trend is of particular significance because most of it is very likely human-induced and proceeding at a rate that is unprecedented in the past 1,300 years.

Earth-orbiting satellites and other technological advances have enabled scientists to see the big picture, collecting many different types of information about our planet and its climate on a global scale. Studying these climate data collected over many years reveal the signals of a changing climate.

Facts about Earth's climate are not in dispute

The heat-trapping nature of carbon dioxide and other gases was demonstrated in the mid-19th century.Their ability to affect the transfer of infrared energy through the atmosphere is the scientific basis of many JPL-designed instruments, such as AIRS. Increased levels of greenhouse gases must cause the Earth to warm in response.

Ice cores drawn from Greenland, Antarctica, and tropical mountain glaciers show that the Earth’s climate responds to changes in solar output, in the Earth’s orbit, and in greenhouse gas levels. They also show that in the past, large changes in climate have happened very quickly, geologically-speaking: in tens of years, not in millions or even thousands.

The evidence for rapid climate change is:

• Sea level rise
Global sea level rose about 17 centimeters (6.7 inches) in the last century. The rate in the last decade, however, is nearly double that of the last century.

• Global temperature rise
All three major global surface temperature reconstructions show that Earth has warmed since 1880.5 Most of this warming has occurred since the 1970s, with the 20 warmest years having occurred since 1981 and with all 10 of the warmest years occurring in the past 12 years. Even though the 2000s witnessed a solar output decline resulting in an unusually deep solar minimum in 2007-2009, surface temperatures continue to increase.

• Warming oceans
The oceans have absorbed much of this increased heat, with the top 700 meters (about 2,300 feet) of ocean showing warming of 0.302 degrees Fahrenheit since 1969.

• Shrinking ice sheets
The Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets have decreased in mass. Data from NASA's Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment show Greenland lost 150 to 250 cubic kilometers (36 to 60 cubic miles) of ice per year between 2002 and 2006, while Antarctica lost about 152 cubic kilometers (36 cubic miles) of ice between 2002 and 2005.

• Declining Arctic sea ice
Both the extent and thickness of Arctic sea ice has declined rapidly over the last several decades.

• Glacial retreat
Glaciers are retreating almost everywhere around the world—including in the Alps, Himalayas, Andes, Rockies, Alaska and Africa.

• Extreme events
The number of record high temperature events in the United States has been increasing, while the number of record low temperature events has been decreasing, since 1950.

• Ocean acidification
Since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, the acidity of surface ocean waters has increased by about 30 percent. This increase is the result of humans emitting more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere and hence more being absorbed into the oceans. The amount of carbon dioxide absorbed by the upper layer of the oceans is increasing by about 2 billion tons per year.

http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence

Since: Jan 13

Fairfax, VA

#328 Feb 14, 2013
tina anne wrote:
<quoted text>

The odds that everything Limbaugh is saying is wrong is small. As the old saying goes, "Even the blind squrril will occassionally find a nut". Of course the fact that climate change is more a political issue than a scientific one means that Limbuagh has his finger on the pulse of one major group in this country and that group is a major voting block.
On his April 29, 1994 radio program Limbaugh stated, "There is no conclusive proof that nicotine's addictive...and the same thing with cigarettes causing emphysema, lung cancer, heart disease".

He has never reversed that position.

He MUST be right here too -- else a crazy.

Gee, which one could it be.....

Since: Jan 13

Fairfax, VA

#329 Feb 14, 2013
Say Tina, so was there a connections between Iraq and 9/11.

ie do you believe Rush then... or now... LOL.

An October 21 study (pdf) conducted by the nonpartisan Program on International Policy Attitudes contradicts Limbaugh's suggestion that Bush voters merely believe in a general "connection of terrorism in Iraq."

According to the study, 75 percent of Bush supporters believe that Iraq under Saddam Hussein provided "substantial support" to Al Qaeda, and 20 percent of Bush supporters believe Iraq was directly involved in 9-11. The study found that only 30 percent of Senator John Kerry's supporters believe that Iraq provided substantial support to Al Qaeda, and only 8 percent of Kerry supporters believe Iraq was directly involved in 9-11.

From the November 8 edition of The Rush Limbaugh Show:


CALLER: I think there was no reason to go to war, and I think these people, these -- these good folks, these good Christian folks, one of them was interviewed in Ohio, and asked why she voted for Bush. And she says, "We're voting for Bush because we're Christian people, and he's a good Christian."

And she was asked, well, is there anything that you disagree with about Mr. Bush? And she said, "Yes. On 9-12, we should have just gone in there and demolished Iraq."

Now, here's a woman who is saying that Iraq had something to do with 9-11. Apparently she was given misinformation, and she was misinformed.

[...]

LIMBAUGH: The fact that there's no -- no relationship to Iraq and -- and 9-11 -- nobody ever said there was. You guys just believed the myth out there that was -- that was -- that was promulgated. Nobody ever said there was.

What we said was, there's a connection of terrorism in Iraq, and the voters believed this.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index...
Downtown

Chatsworth, CA

#330 Feb 15, 2013
Wallop10 wrote:
or that women ran NASA:
Climate change: How do we know?
The Earth's climate has changed throughout history. Just in the last 650,000 years there have been seven cycles of glacial advance and retreat, with the abrupt end of the last ice age about 7,000 years ago marking the beginning of the modern climate era — and of human civilization. Most of these climate changes are attributed to very small variations in Earth’s orbit that change the amount of solar energy our planet receives.
The current warming trend is of particular significance because most of it is very likely human-induced and proceeding at a rate that is unprecedented in the past 1,300 years.
Earth-orbiting satellites and other technological advances have enabled scientists to see the big picture, collecting many different types of information about our planet and its climate on a global scale. Studying these climate data collected over many years reveal the signals of a changing climate.
Facts about Earth's climate are not in dispute
The heat-trapping nature of carbon dioxide and other gases was demonstrated in the mid-19th century.Their ability to affect the transfer of infrared energy through the atmosphere is the scientific basis of many JPL-designed instruments, such as AIRS. Increased levels of greenhouse gases must cause the Earth to warm in response.
Ice cores drawn from Greenland, Antarctica, and tropical mountain glaciers show that the Earth’s climate responds to changes in solar output, in the Earth’s orbit, and in greenhouse gas levels. They also show that in the past, large changes in climate have happened very quickly, geologically-speaking: in tens of years, not in millions or even thousands.
The evidence for rapid climate change is:
• Sea level rise
Global sea level rose about 17 centimeters (6.7 inches) in the last century. The rate in the last decade, however, is nearly double that of the last century.
• Global temperature rise
All three major global surface temperature reconstructions show that Earth has warmed since 1880.5 Most of this warming has occurred since the 1970s, with the 20 warmest years having occurred since 1981 and with all 10 of the warmest years occurring in the past 12 years. Even though the 2000s witnessed a solar output decline resulting in an unusually deep solar minimum in 2007-2009, surface temperatures continue to increase.
• Warming oceans
The oceans have absorbed much of this increased heat, with the top 700 meters (about 2,300 feet) of ocean showing warming of 0.302 degrees Fahrenheit since 1969.
• Shrinking ice sheets
The Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets have decreased in mass. Data from NASA's Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment show Greenland lost 150 to 250 cubic kilometers (36 to 60 cubic miles) of ice per year between 2002 and 2006, while Antarctica lost about 152 cubic kilometers (36 cubic miles) of ice between 2002 and 2005.
• Declining Arctic sea ice
Both the extent and thickness of Arctic sea ice has declined rapidly over the last several decades.
• Glacial retreat
Glaciers are retreating almost everywhere around the world—including in the Alps, Himalayas, Andes, Rockies, Alaska and Africa.
• Extreme events
The number of record high temperature events in the United States has been increasing, while the number of record low temperature events has been decreasing, since 1950.
• Ocean acidification
Since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, the acidity of surface ocean waters has increased by about 30 percent. This increase is the result of humans emitting more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere and hence more being absorbed into the oceans. The amount of carbon dioxide absorbed by the upper layer of the oceans is increasing by about 2 billion tons per year.
http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence
The ocean is Warmer by .3 degrees since 1969? That's it? Where was the thermometer in 1969? Jeez. You girls will believe anything.
PHD

Overton, TX

#331 Feb 15, 2013
Another great day today the wallop10 AKA walloped again and again gets walloped again and again.
Scientist

Chatsworth, CA

#332 Feb 15, 2013
The last ice age occurred because saber tooth tigers were manufacturing and driving gas guzzling cars.
mc

Danielson, CT

#333 Feb 15, 2013
Greenenergyefficientproducts.com has a ton of cool products to help you reduce the environmental impact in your home - and if you don't care about saving energy, or the environment, they will also save you money! Anyone that says they don't like saving money is lying. Greenenergyefficientproducts.com also has gadgets like wifi thermostats, and outlets that make your home controllable from anywhere!

“Denying those who deny nature”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#334 Feb 15, 2013
Wallop10 wrote:
<quoted text>
You're in fantasy land if you think Limbaugh gives equal time.
But then... you've demonstrated you ARE in right wing fantasy land.
Actually, when you compare on the transcripts he gives more time to liberals. After all, what many of the audience like to hear is him pounding on them. Now does the call screener select the wisest of the liberals or the stupidest. I would have to say that they pick the easiest targets.

In fact I bet you could get on the Rush Limbaugh show. After all, yo are just what they are looking for. SOmeone who knows little but thinks they know much. Someone who is so far to the left that anything that isn't what he believes is "RW".
CNN is the best

Los Angeles, CA

#335 Feb 15, 2013
Too funny. Global warming causes meteors? Probably a liberal arts major.
==========
A CNN anchor has asked on live television whether a meteor hurtling past Earth was the result of global warming.

Deborah Feyeric made the faux pas when she transitioned from a discussion about global warming and the blizzard that struck to east coast into a a segment about Asteroid 2012 DA14 - which is projected to pass just 17,200 miles from Earth on Friday.

'We want to bring in our science guy, Bill Nye, and talk about something else that’s falling from the sky, and that is an asteroid,' Feyerick says.'What’s coming our way? Is this the effect of, perhaps, global warming? Or is this just some meteoric occasion?'
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#336 Feb 15, 2013
CNN is the best wrote:
Too funny. Global warming causes meteors? Probably a liberal arts major.
==========
A CNN anchor has asked on live television whether a meteor hurtling past Earth was the result of global warming.
Deborah Feyeric made the faux pas when she transitioned from a discussion about global warming and the blizzard that struck to east coast into a a segment about Asteroid 2012 DA14 - which is projected to pass just 17,200 miles from Earth on Friday.
'We want to bring in our science guy, Bill Nye, and talk about something else that’s falling from the sky, and that is an asteroid,' Feyerick says.'What’s coming our way? Is this the effect of, perhaps, global warming? Or is this just some meteoric occasion?'
What's your excuse for being ignorant?

A very good observation because the thermosphere is shrinking by the man-made global warming:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/pics/Human_Fi...
PHD

Overton, TX

#337 Feb 15, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>What's your excuse for being ignorant?
A very good observation because the thermosphere is shrinking by the man-made global warming:
http://www.skepticalscience.com/pics/Human_Fi...
Its learned behavior and your a great teacher of scientific science fiction. Go ahead take a cookie.

Since: Jan 13

Fairfax, VA

#339 Feb 15, 2013
CNN is the best wrote:
'We want to bring in our science guy, Bill Nye, and talk about something else that’s falling from the sky, and that is an asteroid,' Feyerick says.
Bill Nye is STRONGLY on the side warning about global warming. Same with Stephen Hawkings and other famous scientists.
Scientist

Chatsworth, CA

#340 Feb 15, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>What's your excuse for being ignorant?
A very good observation because the thermosphere is shrinking by the man-made global warming:
http://www.skepticalscience.com/pics/Human_Fi...
Troll. Even Bill Nye and Al Gore don't believe that dribble.
PHD

Overton, TX

#341 Feb 16, 2013
Scientist wrote:
<quoted text>
Troll. Even Bill Nye and Al Gore don't believe that dribble.
The spaced out spacedoutblues did admit hitting the bottle and it could be ethanol its favorite choice of drink.

Since: Jan 13

Fairfax, VA

#342 Feb 16, 2013
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>The spaced out spacedoutblues did admit hitting the bottle and it could be ethanol its favorite choice of drink.
And Penny admitted she really had no degrees today.
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes it’s true I don't have a degree like you do. I will make an effort to learn BS so I could be just like you. Then I could post cut and paste useless scientific science fiction babble. Can you tell me what school you attended so I can be just like you?
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin ...
PHD

Overton, TX

#343 Feb 17, 2013
Wallop10 wrote:
<quoted text>
And Penny admitted she really had no degrees today.
<quoted text>
Again, no I don’t have a degree in BULL S. only you qualify for that type of degree. So do to your limited mental capacity let me repeat. No I don't have that degree in Bull S. only you could qualify fort that type of degree. You do show all that you are the best and was top of your class. I bet they gave you that Bull S. Medal of Honor.

Since: Jan 13

Fairfax, VA

#344 Feb 17, 2013
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>Again, no I don’t have a degree in BULL S. only you qualify for that type of degree. So do to your limited mental capacity let me repeat. No I don't have that degree in Bull S. only you could qualify fort that type of degree. You do show all that you are the best and was top of your class. I bet they gave you that Bull S. Medal of Honor.
You don't have any degree, doll.
I have it on record.

You're exposed as a fraud.
Which is why you SCREAM when someone posts any real science here.
PHD

Overton, TX

#346 Feb 18, 2013
Wallop10 wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't have any degree, doll.
I have it on record.
You're exposed as a fraud.
Which is why you SCREAM when someone posts any real science here.
You can’t even be original Commander TROLL!!!! See that Bull S. degree again got you walloped and in the crapper. That Ha HA you hear is the void between your ears called an echo.
Your wrong you don't have a character to insult.
qezwex

Pittsburgh, PA

#348 Feb 18, 2013
youtube.com/watch... …… Get a Grip on Reality,its stupid

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