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“That's Un-Possible!”

Since: Jan 08

Brookhaven Hamlet, Long Island

#22 Mar 23, 2014
IRRELEVANT ARGUMENT- MYTH wrote:
<quoted text>First I said 2 OR 3 post as an estimate. THE FACTS are your 18 post charade consist of 8576 characters, PLENTY of room for THREE post. AND you could have even included who you STOLE your cut and paste from.
But you see, the way that I posted it, I made it easy for a person to single out a particular subject he wanted to comment on just by replying to that certain subjects post. Also, had I posted it all in two or three posts, there would be no room for text in a reply. The characters would be all used up with the quoted text.

Think about it...
ILAL

Bronx, NY

#23 Mar 23, 2014
Brookhaven John wrote:
I meet you all the time. You hate Obama. You hate gay people. You hate black people, immigrants, Muslims, labor unions, women who want the right to make choices concerning their bodies, you hate em all. You hate being called racist. You hate being called a bigot. Maybe if you talked about creating jobs more than you talk about why you hate gay people we wouldn't call you bigots. Maybe if you talked about black people without automatically assuming they are on food stamps while demanding their birth certificates we wouldn't call you racist. You hate socialism and social justice. You hate regulations and taxes and spending and the Government. You hate.
You like war. You like torture. You like Jesus. I don't know how in the hell any of that is compatible, but no one ever accused you haters of being over-committed to ideological consistency. You like people who look like you or at least hate most of the things that you hate. You hate everything else.
Now, I know you profess to love our country and the founding fathers (unless you are reminded that they believed in the separation of church and state), but I need to remind you that America is NOT what Fox News says it is. America is a melting pot, it always has been. We are a multi-cultural amalgamation of all kinds of people, and yet you still demonize everyone who is not a rich, white, heterosexual christian male or his submissive and obedient wife.
You hate liberals, moderates, hell, anyone who disagrees with Conservative dogma as espoused by Fox News and Rush Limbaugh. You hate em.
Well, here are the facts, Jack. If you hate the Government then you are unqualified to manage it. If you hate gay people more than you love America than you should take your own advice and get the hell out. There are several countries that are openly hostile to gay people, but they are full of brown people and you don't like them much either from what I understand. It looks like you are screwed, but that's not what I am here to tell you.
More rant to come...
Excellent post, my compliments to you for stating the obvious and the truth about what's going in America.
People can be so vocal to the point of ridiculousness about non issues, but silent on the real issues like jobs and the economy.

“That's Un-Possible!”

Since: Jan 08

Brookhaven Hamlet, Long Island

#24 Mar 23, 2014
ILAL wrote:
<quoted text>
Excellent post, my compliments to you for stating the obvious and the truth about what's going in America.
People can be so vocal to the point of ridiculousness about non issues, but silent on the real issues like jobs and the economy.
Just look at the guy in the previous posts. He'll argue with me over whether or not I could have fit an article into 3 posts rather than debate with me over important issues. He's doing nothing but making a vain attempt at changing the subject. He chooses deflection over direction simply because he knows he can't win an intelligent debate with so many truthful & proven facts stacked against him. So he'll resort to covering up the facts, changing the subject & in the end, reduce himself to immature & petty insults designed to feed his own self-important agenda.

There was a girl in one of these boards who said it best:
"Arguing with an imbecile on a public message board is like playing chess with a pigeon. Eventually the pigeon will just shit on the board & then strut around as if he won anyway..."
SAD BJ SAD

Dover, OH

#25 Mar 24, 2014
Brookhaven John wrote:
<quoted text>
Just look at the guy in the previous posts. He'll argue with me over whether or not I could have fit an article into 3 posts rather than debate with me over important issues. He's doing nothing but making a vain attempt at changing the subject. He chooses deflection over direction simply because he knows he can't win an intelligent debate with so many truthful & proven facts stacked against him. So he'll resort to covering up the facts, changing the subject & in the end, reduce himself to immature & petty insults designed to feed his own self-important agenda.
There was a girl in one of these boards who said it best:
"Arguing with an imbecile on a public message board is like playing chess with a pigeon. Eventually the pigeon will just shit on the board & then strut around as if he won anyway..."
Hey BJ it was YOU who argued with me that you couldn't fit your swiped 18 post copy and paste into 2 or 3 post. I PROVED YOUR LAME EXCUSE AS A LIE and exposed the intent of your frantic 18 post was to make it appear that you created those words. Then you did the same the next day.

BJ
"he can't win an intelligent debate with so many truthful & proven facts stacked against him"

Your truthful & proven facts are from EXTREME progressive publications, the only ones still beholden to Obama. Even the MSM is beginning to abandon him as the reality of November approaches.

BJ
"So he'll resort to covering up the facts, changing the subject"

Whose facts, your 'facts'.?

BJ
"in the end, reduce himself to immature & petty insults designed to feed his own self-important agenda."

the next and final sentence from BJ:
"Arguing with an imbecile on a public message board is like playing chess with a pigeon. Eventually the pigeon will just shit on the board & then strut around as if he won anyway..."

PROJECTION BJ PROJECTION

Have a good day flipping burgers.
NICE TRY BJ - YOU FAIL

Dover, OH

#26 Mar 24, 2014
Brookhaven John wrote:
<quoted text>
But you see, the way that I posted it, I made it easy for a person to single out a particular subject he wanted to comment on just by replying to that certain subjects post. Also, had I posted it all in two or three posts, there would be no room for text in a reply. The characters would be all used up with the quoted text.
Think about it...
It has been FIFTEEN days since your EIGHTEEN cut & paste AND NO ONE has replied to ANY of them. What a waste of effort.

Don't fret you may get a rely or two from your new SLURPER 'friend' after he sees this post...hahaha

“Same F*ck”

Since: Oct 07

Different You's

#27 Mar 24, 2014
IRRELEVANT ARGUMENT- MYTH wrote:
<quoted text>First I said 2 OR 3 post as an estimate. THE FACTS are your 18 post charade consist of 8576 characters, PLENTY of room for THREE post. AND you could have even included who you STOLE your cut and paste from.
Personally the 18 different posts makes it easier to dispute as you just can reply to a certain post. Nonetheless, his posts are complete garbage and wrong but the way he did it was fine

“That's Un-Possible!”

Since: Jan 08

Brookhaven Hamlet, Long Island

#29 Mar 24, 2014
SAD BJ SAD wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey BJ it was YOU who argued with me that you couldn't fit your swiped 18 post copy and paste into 2 or 3 post. I PROVED YOUR LAME EXCUSE AS A LIE and exposed the intent of your frantic 18 post was to make it appear that you created those words. Then you did the same the next day.
BJ
"he can't win an intelligent debate with so many truthful & proven facts stacked against him"
Your truthful & proven facts are from EXTREME progressive publications, the only ones still beholden to Obama. Even the MSM is beginning to abandon him as the reality of November approaches.
BJ
"So he'll resort to covering up the facts, changing the subject"
Whose facts, your 'facts'.?
BJ
"in the end, reduce himself to immature & petty insults designed to feed his own self-important agenda."
the next and final sentence from BJ:
"Arguing with an imbecile on a public message board is like playing chess with a pigeon. Eventually the pigeon will just shit on the board & then strut around as if he won anyway..."
PROJECTION BJ PROJECTION
Have a good day flipping burgers.
Love your default FoxBot rhetoric. With no proof to back your claims. As usual...

How typical....
Jack

Buffalo, NY

#30 Mar 25, 2014
Brookhaven John wrote:
<quoted text>
Love your default FoxBot rhetoric. With no proof to back your claims. As usual...
How typical....
You gotta admit John, Obama is the worst president ever......not even born in America.......Bush may have let the economy go bad in his 2nd term......but Obama did nothing but let it get worse......and the obamacare is a total joke.......
Opinion

Pine Ridge, SD

#31 Mar 25, 2014
Jack wrote:
<quoted text>You gotta admit John, Obama is the worst president ever......not even born in America.......Bush may have let the economy go bad in his 2nd term......but Obama did nothing but let it get worse......and the obamacare is a total joke.......
Jack - Jack - Jack hold on there. Let's don't do a drive by without backing it up.

Here is a posting of "John" that you can tear apart to back up your Fixed News/Rush Limbaugh repeated echo chamber talk>

Here you go so have at it:

You failed to comment on this posting:#18 by Brookhaven John

"FACT: The budget was balanced when Clinton left office in 2001 (in fact, he left Dubbya with a $300,000,000,000 surplus).

Eight years later, Bush left Obama with a $1,413,000,000,000 deficit and a 9.8% deficit/GDP ratio. Most of which was due to Bush’s deficit-spending on the Iraq War, Medicare Part D and the two tax cuts that largely went to the wealthy.

“Remember what Reagan taught us. Deficits don’t matter.”~ Dick Cheney.

Since Obama’s election:
&#9726;2010 —$1,294,000,000,000 8.7% deficit/GDP
&#9726;2011 —$1,300,000,000,000 8.4% deficit/GDP
&#9726;2012 —$1,087,000,000,000 6.8% deficit/GDP
&#9726;2013 —$680,000,000,000 4.1% deficit/GDP
&#9726;2014 —$560,000,000,000 3.3% deficit/GDP

See a pattern developing? Furthermore, the United States is now producing more oil than we import. Our overall trade deficit is at a four year low, as imported oil continues to decline. GM, Ford and Chrysler are all chugging along nicely, no thanks to a unified Republican/Teabigot party, who were eager to sacrifice 2 million American jobs on their altar of Obama Derangement Syndrome.

The trade gap has fallen 12.9% to $34.3 billion as Obama’s policies have made American products and services more available abroad, while Americans are increasingly buying more domestic products. The trade imbalance is now lower than at any time since the beginning of the recession, and the offshoring of American jobs has (finally) slowed to a trickle.

Our trade gap with China is down 6.7%(largely based on their taste for American cars — see above), our trade gap with Japan is down 8.4% and our trade gap with the European Union has dropped a whopping 29.4%.

Are things perfect? No. There’s still much to be done. But the rumors of Barack Obama’s “failures” have been greatly exaggerated, and it’s time to call these talking points what they are… lies. This president will go down in history as a man who achieved some amazing accomplishments, especially considering the unified opposition he’s had to endure since Day One.

So there you have it Fox News “patriots,” all your talking points shot to hell in one FACT-based document. How do you like them apples, bitches? "

“That's Un-Possible!”

Since: Jan 08

Brookhaven Hamlet, Long Island

#32 Mar 25, 2014
Jack wrote:
<quoted text>You gotta admit John, Obama is the worst president ever......not even born in America.......Bush may have let the economy go bad in his 2nd term......but Obama did nothing but let it get worse......and the obamacare is a total joke.......
Come on Jack. That whole "Obama wasn't born in America" birther crap is for the tin-foil helmet crowd. Even the birthers are over that one...

“Same F*ck”

Since: Oct 07

Different You's

#33 Mar 25, 2014
Jack wrote:
<quoted text>You gotta admit John, Obama is the worst president ever......not even born in America.......Bush may have let the economy go bad in his 2nd term......but Obama did nothing but let it get worse......and the obamacare is a total joke.......
Obama was born in this country. However the problem with his birth certificate was that his parents weren't actually married and that was the big cover up. His father was a real slob who was with several different women at the time when Barack was born. Obamas claimed when he was a state senator that his parents were in fact married. Thats where the controversy is. The rest of your post is spot on accurate. Gotta keep in mind though that Bushs entire presidential agenda was interrupted by 9/11 less than a year into presidency. Of course Iraq was a huge mistake though to be fair. Still the fact that in 2008, this nation decided to elect a young senator with less than 2 years experience, no executive experience and a community organizer who grew up in Indonesia during his whole childhood over a guy who was a war hero, not to mention a former mayor and gov for executive experience told the world that we now live in a country with a majority population comprised of losers, lowlifes and deadbeats
Opinion

Pine Ridge, SD

#34 Mar 25, 2014
Unbiased Chargers Fan wrote:
<quoted text>Obama was born in this country. However the problem with his birth certificate was that his parents weren't actually married and that was the big cover up. His father was a real slob who was with several different women at the time when Barack was born. Obamas claimed when he was a state senator that his parents were in fact married. Thats where the controversy is. The rest of your post is spot on accurate. Gotta keep in mind though that Bushs entire presidential agenda was interrupted by 9/11 less than a year into presidency. Of course Iraq was a huge mistake though to be fair. Still the fact that in 2008, this nation decided to elect a young senator with less than 2 years experience, no executive experience and a community organizer who grew up in Indonesia during his whole childhood over a guy who was a war hero, not to mention a former mayor and gov for executive experience told the world that we now live in a country with a majority population comprised of losers, lowlifes and deadbeats
Time for some facts to get straighten out.

#1. President Obama's parents were married Feb 21, 1961 in Hawaii. She was clearly with child before the marriage.

#2. President Obama was born in Hawaii Aug 4, 1961 and parents are both shown on his birth certificate that is on file in Hawaii.

#3. They really never lived together as she left to go to school in Washington in Aug 1961 shortly after he was born.

#4. The were divorced in 1964.

#5. Obama's father on visited him one time in 1971.

#6. Mother remarried and at age 5 Obama went to Indonesia to live.

#7. He was in Indonesia from age 5 to age 10 and attended four years of grade school.

#8. At age 10 he returned to Hawaii to live with his white grandparents.

#8 He attended the rest of grade school in Hawaii and then attended high school there for the next 8 years.

#9 Attended college graduating from Harvard Law school with Honors.

#10 Was a Illinois State Senator for the 13th District one of the most populated areas.

Once you get the true facts placed back into your posting you are welcome to the rest of your opinion.

“Same F*ck”

Since: Oct 07

Different You's

#35 Mar 25, 2014
Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Time for some facts to get straighten out.
#1. President Obama's parents were married Feb 21, 1961 in Hawaii. She was clearly with child before the marriage.
#2. President Obama was born in Hawaii Aug 4, 1961 and parents are both shown on his birth certificate that is on file in Hawaii.
#3. They really never lived together as she left to go to school in Washington in Aug 1961 shortly after he was born.
#4. The were divorced in 1964.
#5. Obama's father on visited him one time in 1971.
#6. Mother remarried and at age 5 Obama went to Indonesia to live.
#7. He was in Indonesia from age 5 to age 10 and attended four years of grade school.
#8. At age 10 he returned to Hawaii to live with his white grandparents.
#8 He attended the rest of grade school in Hawaii and then attended high school there for the next 8 years.
#9 Attended college graduating from Harvard Law school with Honors.
#10 Was a Illinois State Senator for the 13th District one of the most populated areas.
Once you get the true facts placed back into your posting you are welcome to the rest of your opinion.
Dude, like Brookhaven John, you're another one of them loser lowlifes that are destroying this nation by enabling Obama to fundamentally transform the nation like he promised he'd do. Funny thing is I sit back and laugh. You guys will eventually feel it much worse than me. I already made the right choices in life. I cannot be hurt by his policies. Its you and your children who will deal with the consequences of Obamas big govt
Jack

Buffalo, NY

#36 Mar 25, 2014
Brookhaven John wrote:
<quoted text>
Come on Jack. That whole "Obama wasn't born in America" birther crap is for the tin-foil helmet crowd. Even the birthers are over that one...
C'mon John!!!! You gotta wake up a little.....Obama is clearly the WORST president in U.S. history.......guy has put America in deeper debt.......and the economy along with gas and food are at their highest prices.........he's killing the middle class big time.......all he does is lie.......lie and lie some more.......he's a clown......
Jack

Buffalo, NY

#37 Mar 25, 2014
Brookhaven John wrote:
<quoted text>
Come on Jack. That whole "Obama wasn't born in America" birther crap is for the tin-foil helmet crowd. Even the birthers are over that one...
Whoops....meant to post...."bad economy that Obama let grow far worse.......I'd say he should of been impeached way back in his 1st term.......but his dependents....VP all the way down are just as bad.......and his obamacare is killing the middle class....Obama sucks hardcore John......plain and simple.....

“That's Un-Possible!”

Since: Jan 08

Brookhaven Hamlet, Long Island

#39 Mar 26, 2014
Jack wrote:
<quoted text>C'mon John!!!! You gotta wake up a little.....Obama is clearly the WORST president in U.S. history.......guy has put America in deeper debt.......and the economy along with gas and food are at their highest prices.........he's killing the middle class big time.......all he does is lie.......lie and lie some more.......he's a clown......
So what are you going to do when Hilary becomes President? You know damn well she's going to win...
Opinion

Pine Ridge, SD

#40 Mar 26, 2014
Unbiased Chargers Fan wrote:
<quoted text>Dude, like Brookhaven John, you're another one of them loser lowlifes that are destroying this nation by enabling Obama to fundamentally transform the nation like he promised he'd do. Funny thing is I sit back and laugh. You guys will eventually feel it much worse than me. I already made the right choices in life. I cannot be hurt by his policies. Its you and your children who will deal with the consequences of Obamas big govt
Sorry that truth and real facts upset you.

I could care less if you don't like President Obama just get the facts straight before you start jacking your jaws.

If you want to be anti-Obama I really don't care just know what you are talking about and be able to back up what you are babbling about. If you want to be anti-Bush I don't care either but again know what you are talking about and attack with truth and real facts.

You are more than welcome to believe any political nonsense you wish but if you are going to get up on the soap box then you better be able to back up the stupidity.

“That's Un-Possible!”

Since: Jan 08

Brookhaven Hamlet, Long Island

#41 Mar 26, 2014
Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry that truth and real facts upset you.
I could care less if you don't like President Obama just get the facts straight before you start jacking your jaws.
If you want to be anti-Obama I really don't care just know what you are talking about and be able to back up what you are babbling about. If you want to be anti-Bush I don't care either but again know what you are talking about and attack with truth and real facts.
You are more than welcome to believe any political nonsense you wish but if you are going to get up on the soap box then you better be able to back up the stupidity.
I wouldn't expect anything more than the usual default Conservative FoxBot diatribe from him...

“Same F*ck”

Since: Oct 07

Different You's

#42 Mar 27, 2014
Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry that truth and real facts upset you.
I could care less if you don't like President Obama just get the facts straight before you start jacking your jaws.
If you want to be anti-Obama I really don't care just know what you are talking about and be able to back up what you are babbling about. If you want to be anti-Bush I don't care either but again know what you are talking about and attack with truth and real facts.
You are more than welcome to believe any political nonsense you wish but if you are going to get up on the soap box then you better be able to back up the stupidity.
How after 6 years can you still possibly support Obama?? And yes, the Rupublicans have stopped many of what Obama has tried to do. Thats because in his 1st 2 years on office, he had full control of the senate and congress. And the 2 things he did were both disasters. The stimulus which only added more debt to the nation and Obamacare which is a complete failure. The reason why Obama doesn't have control of Congress today is because of those 2 things he did in his 1st 2 years in office. The whole reason for the creation of the tea party was because of the stimulus package and Obamacare. Just boggles my mind how anyone who is a responsible citizen can still be on board with Obama
Opinion

Pine Ridge, SD

#43 Mar 27, 2014
Unbiased Chargers Fan wrote:
<quoted text>How after 6 years can you still possibly support Obama?? And yes, the Rupublicans have stopped many of what Obama has tried to do. Thats because in his 1st 2 years on office, he had full control of the senate and congress. And the 2 things he did were both disasters. The stimulus which only added more debt to the nation and Obamacare which is a complete failure. The reason why Obama doesn't have control of Congress today is because of those 2 things he did in his 1st 2 years in office. The whole reason for the creation of the tea party was because of the stimulus package and Obamacare. Just boggles my mind how anyone who is a responsible citizen can still be on board with Obama
It boggles my mind how you can be so blind to the mess he was handed. How well he has handled things in light of the total opposition of Republicans. A do nothing House and stop everything Senate with a filibuster.


Lets take a look at what really caused the National debt to increase.

1. The Bush tax cuts
The biggest culprit? The 2001 and 2003 tax cuts under then-president George W. Bush. They have added an estimated $1.6 trillion to the national debt. It's pretty clear, that Bush-era policies, "particularly debt-financed tax cuts," make up "the lion's share of the problem." And they're ongoing, so the tab for them builds every year.

2. Health care entitlements
Added "federal regulation, bureaucracy, and new Medicaid and other entitlements have pushed up federal spending by $1.1 trillion —$900 billion more than required by inflation." And down the road, our "health-entitlement explosion" will account for "basically 100 percent" of our debt problem.

3. Medicare prescription drug benefit
Another piece of the pie: George W. Bush's addition of Medicare's prescription drug benefit. That has added $300 billion to the debt,

4. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan
The tab for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan comes to $1.3 trillion, another major chunk of new, unexpected spending over the last decade. "These wars have to be financed with borrowing, which adds up to national debt.". We still are playing war games there.

5. Obama's economic stimulus to get out of the Bush depression
The 2009 stimulus package enacted by President Obama cost $800 billion. And the 2010 tax-cut compromise between Obama and Republicans, which extended jobless benefits and reduced payroll taxes, added another $400 billion to the debt. Add another $200 billion for the 2008 bailout of the financial industry, and the government's efforts to soften the blow of the Great Recession amount to one of the largest chunks of the debt build-up. Who handed this mess to Obama? George Bush & Dick Cheney.

6. The Great Bush Recession
Some of the spending gap came from factors outside the control of Congress and the White House. As the government spent heavily to boost the economy, says the AP, it took in hundreds of billions less in tax revenue than expected, because the Great Recession eroded Americans' income and spending.
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When one steps back and looks at what the major causes of the national debt were, a lot was Bush/Cheney caused two unfunded wars - tax cuts for the rich - unfunded drug program - financial market collapse and economic policies that lead to the Great Bush Depression we are still dealing with.

Bush handed Obama one hell of a mess to clean up. Although I do not exactly agree with how the economic stimulus package was spent it was a necessary thing that likely diverted a world depression. How it was spent was to a large extend determined by State needs.

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