An open letter to the people who hate...

An open letter to the people who hate Obama more than they love America

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“That's Un-Possible!”

Since: Jan 08

Brookhaven Hamlet, Long Island

#1 Mar 23, 2014
I meet you all the time. You hate Obama. You hate gay people. You hate black people, immigrants, Muslims, labor unions, women who want the right to make choices concerning their bodies, you hate em all. You hate being called racist. You hate being called a bigot. Maybe if you talked about creating jobs more than you talk about why you hate gay people we wouldn't call you bigots. Maybe if you talked about black people without automatically assuming they are on food stamps while demanding their birth certificates we wouldn't call you racist. You hate socialism and social justice. You hate regulations and taxes and spending and the Government. You hate.

You like war. You like torture. You like Jesus. I don't know how in the hell any of that is compatible, but no one ever accused you haters of being over-committed to ideological consistency. You like people who look like you or at least hate most of the things that you hate. You hate everything else.

Now, I know you profess to love our country and the founding fathers (unless you are reminded that they believed in the separation of church and state), but I need to remind you that America is NOT what Fox News says it is. America is a melting pot, it always has been. We are a multi-cultural amalgamation of all kinds of people, and yet you still demonize everyone who is not a rich, white, heterosexual christian male or his submissive and obedient wife.

You hate liberals, moderates, hell, anyone who disagrees with Conservative dogma as espoused by Fox News and Rush Limbaugh. You hate em.

Well, here are the facts, Jack. If you hate the Government then you are unqualified to manage it. If you hate gay people more than you love America than you should take your own advice and get the hell out. There are several countries that are openly hostile to gay people, but they are full of brown people and you don't like them much either from what I understand. It looks like you are screwed, but that's not what I am here to tell you.

More rant to come...

“That's Un-Possible!”

Since: Jan 08

Brookhaven Hamlet, Long Island

#2 Mar 23, 2014
below the fold ...

Now that you have thrown everything and the kitchen sink at President Obama and it still hasn't worked you are panicking. Obama's approval ratings are still near 50% despite your best efforts to undermine the economy and America's recovery at every step you can. You tried to hold the American economy hostage to force America into default on its' debts, debts that YOU rang up under Bush, so you could blame it on Obama and it failed. You've used the filibuster more than any other Congress ever, going so far as to vote against providing health care access to 9/11 first responders. You remember 9/11, don't you, it's that thing you used to lie us into a war in Iraq, and then when Obama killed Bin Laden and ended the war in Iraq you told people that he hates America and wants the troops to fail. You monsters. You hate Obama with a passion, despite the fact that he is a tax cutting, deficit reducing war President who undermines civil rights and delivers corporate friendly watered down reforms that benefit special interests just like a Republican. You call him a Kenyan. You call him a socialist. You dance with your hatred singing it proudly in the rain like it was a 1950's musical.

Frankly, you disgust me. Your hatred nauseates me. Your bigotry offends me. Your racism revolts me.

Dear haters, I am openly questioning your patriotism.

I think you hate gays, Obama, black people, poor people, all of us, women, atheists and agnostics, Latinos, Muslims, Liberals, all of us, I think you hate every one who isn't exactly like you, and I think you hate us more than you love your country.

I think you hate gay soldiers more than you want America to win its wars.

I don't even think you want America to win wars, you just want America to have wars, never ending wars and the war profiteering it generates. You love that kind of spending, you love spending on faith based initiatives and abstinence based sex education (George Carlin would have loved that one), you love spending on subsidies for profitable oil corporations, you spend like drunken sailors when you are in the White House, but if it is a Democrat then suddenly you cheer when America doesn't get the Olympics because it might make the black President look bad. But oooh you love your country, you say, and you want it back. Well listen here skippy, it isn't your country, you don't own it, it is our country, and America is NOT the religiously extremist Foxbots who hate science, elitist professors and having a vibrant and meaningful sex life with someone we love if Rick Santorum doesn't approve of it. Rick Santorum isn't running for America's fucking high school dance chaperone, he should probably just shut the hell up about sex, but he can't because he has nothing else to run on.

Republicans can NOT win on the issues. They've got NOTHING. All they have is a divide and conquer class war that pits ignorant racist and bigoted people against the rest of us in a meaningless battle of wedge issues and the already proven to fail George W. Bush agenda again of tax cuts for the rich, deregulation, privatization and war profiteering and nothing else, so all they can do is blame black people, gays the government, anybody and everyone else for their own failings. The party of personal responsibility, my ass.

But they love multi-national corporations, just ask a gay hating and racist religious extremist if they think Corporations are people and they will gladly agree, but if you ask them if gay people are people they aren't so sure.

“That's Un-Possible!”

Since: Jan 08

Brookhaven Hamlet, Long Island

#3 Mar 23, 2014
haters, you are the cruel, heartless misinformed assholes who would sell America out to Haliburton in a heartbeat, you would rather pay ZERO taxes than you would see a newly born baby get access to quality health care, you cheer when we discuss denying health care to young people with preventable diseases, and you boo when we discuss the First Ladies plan to cut back on childhood obesity. You are a cross to carry and a flag to wrap yourself in away from being the people who Sinclair Lewis warned us about, but I guarantee that if Fox News told you to dress that way you would, because you are the same blind, ignorant and closed minded dunces who drove this country into a civil war years ago because you are bound to the notion that some men are more equal than others. In short, the reason I proudly wear my union army hat is because of seditious sell outs like you who constantly fuck over working class Americans so a foreign entrepreneur like Rupert Murdoch can get a bigger tax break. If corporations are people, they are neither American patriots nor capable of love. Just like you.

So stop wearing your hate with pride. Stop celebrating your anti-science, anti-math ignorance. Stop using code words to mask your bigotry like "family values", especially when you hate my family and when you stand on the same stage as a guy who has had three marriages or if you share a seat in the Senate with a guy who cheated on his wife with hookers while wearing diapers. You should be ashamed. I know that you are just doing this to motivate your misinformed hate cult base because if they actually knew that your ideas will make them poorer than they are now, they would never vote for you. You are doing your best to impoverish your countrymen so rich people can get bigger tax breaks and you can keep on delivering corporate welfare to the special interests who have bribed you, and I am disgusted by the way you gleefully parade your hatred with aplomb. I don't think you do love America. At least, not as much as you hate everyone in America who isn't exactly like you.

You should think about that, and maybe get some help.

And for the record, I do not hate you. I am embarrassed by you and nauseated by your cruel and thoughtless behavior and your all consuming greed, but I do not hate you. I forgive you and I hope you can change someday, but I don't hate you. You have enough hate in you for the rest of us as it is...
Opinion

Hot Springs, SD

#4 Mar 23, 2014
Sad to say but as a long time Republican I too see what has happened to the Republican Party.

When a half white half black man became President they went stark raving crazy. Lots of open racism but far more good old white boy dog whistle racism.

The litmus test today for being a Republican candidate is one that talks about constitution individual rights but is quite willing to use "big government" laws to create anti-abortion hurtle laws and voter suppression laws regardless of constitutional rights. Mix in some religion and you have a self righteous nut. Govern? No just oppose.

I could go on and on but what you posted contains a lot of truths that Republicans of today will refuse to see or admit.
nac

Southold, NY

#5 Mar 23, 2014
Brookhaven John wrote:
I meet you all the time. You hate Obama. You hate gay people. You hate black people, immigrants, Muslims, labor unions, women who want the right to make choices concerning their bodies, you hate em all....
You meet people like this all the time? Really?... all the time?

Remind me to stay out of Brookhaven Hamlet!

In all seriousness, you're laying it on a bit thick, don't you think?

“That's Un-Possible!”

Since: Jan 08

Brookhaven Hamlet, Long Island

#6 Mar 23, 2014
nac wrote:
<quoted text>
You meet people like this all the time? Really?... all the time?
Remind me to stay out of Brookhaven Hamlet!
In all seriousness, you're laying it on a bit thick, don't you think?
Yes, as a matter of fact I do. In these forums, in other forums & in real life...
SAD BJ SAD

Monroe, NC

#7 Mar 23, 2014
Brookhaven John wrote:
haters, you are the cruel, heartless misinformed assholes who would sell America out to Haliburton in a heartbeat, you would rather pay ZERO taxes than you would see a newly born baby get access to quality health care, you cheer when we discuss denying health care to young people with preventable diseases, and you boo when we discuss the First Ladies plan to cut back on childhood obesity. You are a cross to carry and a flag to wrap yourself in away from being the people who Sinclair Lewis warned us about, but I guarantee that if Fox News told you to dress that way you would, because you are the same blind, ignorant and closed minded dunces who drove this country into a civil war years ago because you are bound to the notion that some men are more equal than others. In short, the reason I proudly wear my union army hat is because of seditious sell outs like you who constantly fuck over working class Americans so a foreign entrepreneur like Rupert Murdoch can get a bigger tax break. If corporations are people, they are neither American patriots nor capable of love. Just like you.
So stop wearing your hate with pride. Stop celebrating your anti-science, anti-math ignorance. Stop using code words to mask your bigotry like "family values", especially when you hate my family and when you stand on the same stage as a guy who has had three marriages or if you share a seat in the Senate with a guy who cheated on his wife with hookers while wearing diapers. You should be ashamed. I know that you are just doing this to motivate your misinformed hate cult base because if they actually knew that your ideas will make them poorer than they are now, they would never vote for you. You are doing your best to impoverish your countrymen so rich people can get bigger tax breaks and you can keep on delivering corporate welfare to the special interests who have bribed you, and I am disgusted by the way you gleefully parade your hatred with aplomb. I don't think you do love America. At least, not as much as you hate everyone in America who isn't exactly like you.
above cut and paste by
--
Jesse LaGreca | DKos

from:
http://destroythegop.tumblr.com/page/110

“That's Un-Possible!”

Since: Jan 08

Brookhaven Hamlet, Long Island

#8 Mar 23, 2014
SAD BJ SAD wrote:
<quoted text>
above cut and paste by
--
Jesse LaGreca | DKos
from:
http://destroythegop.tumblr.com/page/110
And?

Did I SAY I wrote this anywhere in my above posts? Do I HAVE TO provide a link for everything I post?
SAD BJ SAD

Monroe, NC

#9 Mar 23, 2014
Brookhaven John wrote:
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And?
Did I SAY I wrote this anywhere in my above posts? Do I HAVE TO provide a link for everything I post?
No just keep on pretending that you authored the post just like your '18' Myths' thread. You did 18 different post in an attempt to hide that it was a C&P.

Before you label ALL others as 'racist', etc. try the integrity route first, then you MAY be taken with a bit seriousness.

“That's Un-Possible!”

Since: Jan 08

Brookhaven Hamlet, Long Island

#10 Mar 23, 2014
SAD BJ SAD wrote:
<quoted text>No just keep on pretending that you authored the post just like your '18' Myths' thread. You did 18 different post in an attempt to hide that it was a C&P.
Before you label ALL others as 'racist', etc. try the integrity route first, then you MAY be taken with a bit seriousness.
I did 18 different posts because you only have a 5000 character limit per post...

Not much in the logic department, are you?
Opinion

Hot Springs, SD

#11 Mar 23, 2014
SAD BJ SAD wrote:
<quoted text>
above cut and paste by
--
Jesse LaGreca | DKos
from:
http://destroythegop.tumblr.com/page/110
What does that have to do with the price of tea in China??

He was not publishing that letter for profit. Hell you don't even have a clue who he really is.

An open letter is a letter that is intended to be read by a wide audience distributed intentionally.

There is no copy right or law that he violated. Do you think that screen name he uses is his real name? He claimed no credit personally for that posting.

The fact that it pissed you off is irrelevant.

Most everything people post contains thoughts and ideas that they have read or learned from some other source.

I thought the letter pretty well described the wing nuts on this forum. Most can only repeat the stuff they hear off Fixed News or right wing radio talk shows.
Opinion

Hot Springs, SD

#12 Mar 23, 2014
Brookhaven John wrote:
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I did 18 different posts because you only have a 5000 character limit per post...
Not much in the logic department, are you?
North Carolina allows first cousins to get married.

DNA testing shows a lot of hits thus crimes are hard to solve.

“That's Un-Possible!”

Since: Jan 08

Brookhaven Hamlet, Long Island

#14 Mar 23, 2014
Opinion wrote:
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North Carolina allows first cousins to get married.
DNA testing shows a lot of hits thus crimes are hard to solve.
Dental records are also useless since they all share the same tooth...
Opinion

Hot Springs, SD

#15 Mar 23, 2014
nac wrote:
<quoted text>
You meet people like this all the time? Really?... all the time?
Remind me to stay out of Brookhaven Hamlet!
In all seriousness, you're laying it on a bit thick, don't you think?
Think that was laying it on a bit thick?

Read this Dear Republican letter:

http://www.bartcop.com/dear-republicans.htm
SAD BJ SAD

Monroe, NC

#16 Mar 23, 2014
Brookhaven John wrote:
<quoted text>
I did 18 different posts because you only have a 5000 character limit per post...
Not much in the logic department, are you?
Your attempt at an insult only proves my point. Your 18 post spectacle would have taken 2 or 3 post at most not EIGHTEEN.
BTW - the limit is 4,000 characters. Try to be armed with facts in further post.
nac

Patchogue, NY

#17 Mar 23, 2014
Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Think that was laying it on a bit thick?
Read this Dear Republican letter:
http://www.bartcop.com/dear-republicans.htm
No, Polly. I'm not going to waste time reading that utter nonsense. I read the first few lines and realized that it is the same type of drivel that your friend plagiarized up there.

To imply that the farthest extreme outliers of a particular group are actually the mainstream of the group in an effort to vilify them is a shallow, intellectually dishonest exercise.

I'm not calling you shallow or intellectually dishonest... but I will warn you:

If you choose to associate yourself with this type of thing, anyone with a brain will assume that you are shallow and intellectually dishonest.

“That's Un-Possible!”

Since: Jan 08

Brookhaven Hamlet, Long Island

#18 Mar 23, 2014
SAD BJ SAD wrote:
<quoted text>Your attempt at an insult only proves my point. Your 18 post spectacle would have taken 2 or 3 post at most not EIGHTEEN.
BTW - the limit is 4,000 characters. Try to be armed with facts in further post.
Tell you what. Prove it. Fit that entire article in 2 posts. Make it readable & understandable, with spaces in between each numbered sentence, the way I did it...

You have a flair for the irrelevant argument, you know that?

“That's Un-Possible!”

Since: Jan 08

Brookhaven Hamlet, Long Island

#19 Mar 23, 2014
nac wrote:
<quoted text>
To imply that the farthest extreme outliers of a particular group are actually the mainstream of the group in an effort to vilify them is a shallow, intellectually dishonest exercise.
Yet Conservatives do the same thing to Muslims. Hmmm.

I smell a hypocrite...
IRRELEVANT ARGUMENT- MYTH

Monroe, NC

#20 Mar 23, 2014
Brookhaven John wrote:
<quoted text>
Tell you what. Prove it. Fit that entire article in 2 posts. Make it readable & understandable, with spaces in between each numbered sentence, the way I did it...
You have a flair for the irrelevant argument, you know that?
First I said 2 OR 3 post as an estimate. THE FACTS are your 18 post charade consist of 8576 characters, PLENTY of room for THREE post. AND you could have even included who you STOLE your cut and paste from.
nac

Patchogue, NY

#21 Mar 23, 2014
Brookhaven John wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet Conservatives do the same thing to Muslims. Hmmm.
I smell a hypocrite...
More shallow intellectual dishonesty.

I don't do it to Muslims, so I am most certainly not a hypocrite.

I do, however, believe that anyone (conservative, liberal, or otherwise) that does that to Muslims (or any other group) is as equally dishonest as you are.

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