ZCs

New York, NY

#1625 Feb 27, 2013
An Ode to Bush

Republican Rep. Walter Jones of North Carolina said Saturday that former Vice President Dick Cheney would likely end up in hell because of his role in the Iraq war.

At a Young Americans for Liberty conference, Jones said it was impossible under current law to prosecute a president for intentionally manipulating intelligence reports to make the case for war. He explained he co-authored a bill to change the law, but the legislation was killed in committee by his Republican colleague Lamar Smith of Texas.

“I have no malice towards Lamar, I have respect for him,” Jones remarked.“But that again is the problem. Congress will not hold anyone to blame. Lyndon Johnson’s probably rotting in hell right now because of the Vietnam War, and he probably needs to move over for Dick Cheney.”
ILAL

Bronx, NY

#1626 Feb 27, 2013
ZCs wrote:
An Ode to Bush
Republican Rep. Walter Jones of North Carolina said Saturday that former Vice President Dick Cheney would likely end up in hell because of his role in the Iraq war.
At a Young Americans for Liberty conference, Jones said it was impossible under current law to prosecute a president for intentionally manipulating intelligence reports to make the case for war. He explained he co-authored a bill to change the law, but the legislation was killed in committee by his Republican colleague Lamar Smith of Texas.
“I have no malice towards Lamar, I have respect for him,” Jones remarked.“But that again is the problem. Congress will not hold anyone to blame. Lyndon Johnson’s probably rotting in hell right now because of the Vietnam War, and he probably needs to move over for Dick Cheney.”
Bush and Cheney lied, many died.
Just Saying

Central Islip, NY

#1627 Feb 27, 2013
ILAL wrote:
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Bush and Cheney lied, many died.
How many more have died since Obama became President?
ILAL

Bronx, NY

#1628 Feb 27, 2013
Just Saying wrote:
<quoted text>How many more have died since Obama became President?
Over 3000 on 9/11/01.
Over 4500 Americans killed in Iraq.
Over 100,000 Iraqi civilians killed.

So tell me how many died under Obama, I'm sure the numbers won't be as high as the number who died under Bush.
Logic

United States

#1629 Feb 27, 2013
ILAL wrote:
<quoted text>
Over 3000 on 9/11/01.
Over 4500 Americans killed in Iraq.
Over 100,000 Iraqi civilians killed.
So tell me how many died under Obama, I'm sure the numbers won't be as high as the number who died under Bush.
It is amazing how some folks use willfull blindess to forget the damage Bush did to this country and use racism to blame it on President Obama
Just Saying

Central Islip, NY

#1630 Feb 27, 2013
Logic wrote:
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It is amazing how some folks use willfull blindess to forget the damage Bush did to this country and use racism to blame it on President Obama
Show me "racism" in anythng I ever wrote. You just can't stand opposing viewpoints.

Incompetence has no color.
Just Saying

Central Islip, NY

#1631 Feb 27, 2013
ILAL wrote:
<quoted text>
Bush and Cheney lied, many died.
Still continuing your bro-mance with ZC's?
Logic

United States

#1632 Feb 28, 2013
How is your Bro-mance racism thing working out with Teddy R The Racist?

You two seem to be a new hot item.
Just Saying

Central Islip, NY

#1633 Feb 28, 2013
Logic wrote:
How is your Bro-mance racism thing working out with Teddy R The Racist?
You two seem to be a new hot item.
You seem upset. My apologies for not including you with them in a threesome.
ZCs

New York, NY

#1634 Mar 8, 2013
An Ode to Bush

I was there. And “there” was nowhere. And nowhere was the place to be if you wanted to see the signs of end times for the American Empire up close. It was the place to be if you wanted to see the madness -- and oh yes, it was madness -- not filtered through a complacent and sleepy media that made Washington’s war policy seem, if not sensible, at least sane and serious enough. I stood at Ground Zero of what was intended to be the new centerpiece for a Pax Americana in the Greater Middle East.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but the invasion of Iraq turned out to be a joke. Not for the Iraqis, of course, and not for American soldiers, and not the ha-ha sort of joke either. And here’s the saddest truth of all: on March 20th as we mark the 10th anniversary of the invasion from hell, we still don’t get it. In case you want to jump to the punch line, though, it’s this: by invading Iraq, the U.S. did more to destabilize the Middle East than we could possibly have imagined at the time. And we -- and so many others -- will pay the price for it for a long, long time.

The Madness of King George

It’s easy to forget just how normal the madness looked back then. By 2009, when I arrived in Iraq, we were already at the last-gasp moment when it came to salvaging something from what may yet be seen as the single worst foreign policy decision in American history. It was then that, as a State Department officer assigned to lead two provincial reconstruction teams in eastern Iraq, I first walked into the chicken processing plant in the middle of nowhere.

By then, the U.S.“reconstruction” plan for that country was drowning in rivers of money foolishly spent. As the centerpiece for those American efforts -- at least after Plan A, that our invading troops would be greeted with flowers and sweets as liberators, crashed and burned -- we had managed to reconstruct nothing of significance. First conceived as a Marshall Plan for the New American Century, six long years later it had devolved into farce.
ZCs

New York, NY

#1635 Mar 8, 2013
Just Saying wrote:
<quoted text>You seem upset. My apologies for not including you with them in a threesome.
You will Bro-mance with just about anybody who share your racist

views.
ZCs

New York, NY

#1636 Mar 8, 2013
An ode to Bush

WASHINGTON -- The capital's dysfunction is leading some thinkers here to conclude that "power" no longer exists. In a tribal and digital world, the theory goes, top-down authority is dead.

Anyone who believes that -- and every other voter in America -- needs to see R.J. Cutler's calmly voiced yet disturbing new feature documentary called "The World According to Dick Cheney."

It's a cautionary tale of unchecked zealotry in action. "We need people of principle who have deep conviction," Cutler told me. "But deep conviction can also take down a democracy."

Watch the movie and see the risks. In a fast-moving 109 minutes, you will follow the rise of a man who, at his height, had virtually unchecked power to rain destruction on other nations and who drove the creation of the military-diplomatic world in which we still live on the eve of the 10th anniversary of the fiery "shock and awe" launch of the Iraq War.

Power wasn't dead when Cheney had it, and I doubt somehow the planet has changed that much since he was in his heyday.

Yes, the American "homeland" has not been attacked since 9/11. But the homeland we now inhabit is largely the product of Cheney's thinking.

Is that his fault -- or ours? As portrayed in Cutler's film, Cheney is a force of nature, a potent mix of ambition, aggression, insight and fear. He is a blunt instrument, in both senses of the adjective.

As such, he needed to be controlled. But by whom? The answer, for several crucial years, was no one: not the benighted and incurious president he served; not the cowed Congress and (most of) the mainstream media; not the American people, who in fact voted in 2000 in greater numbers for the Democratic ticket.
Just Saying

Central Islip, NY

#1637 Mar 8, 2013
ZCs wrote:
<quoted text>
You will Bro-mance with just about anybody who share your racist
views.
Show me anything I wrote that was racist. My disagreements with Obama are substantive and based on his destructive policies. As I said before, incompetence has no color. When you resort to calling people whose ideas you disagree with "racist", it shows desperation on your part, because you have nothing else to debate with.
Just Saying

Central Islip, NY

#1638 Mar 8, 2013
ZCs wrote:
An ode to Bush
WASHINGTON -- The capital's dysfunction is leading some thinkers here to conclude that "power" no longer exists. In a tribal and digital world, the theory goes, top-down authority is dead.
Anyone who believes that -- and every other voter in America -- needs to see R.J. Cutler's calmly voiced yet disturbing new feature documentary called "The World According to Dick Cheney."
It's a cautionary tale of unchecked zealotry in action. "We need people of principle who have deep conviction," Cutler told me. "But deep conviction can also take down a democracy."
Watch the movie and see the risks. In a fast-moving 109 minutes, you will follow the rise of a man who, at his height, had virtually unchecked power to rain destruction on other nations and who drove the creation of the military-diplomatic world in which we still live on the eve of the 10th anniversary of the fiery "shock and awe" launch of the Iraq War.
Power wasn't dead when Cheney had it, and I doubt somehow the planet has changed that much since he was in his heyday.
Yes, the American "homeland" has not been attacked since 9/11. But the homeland we now inhabit is largely the product of Cheney's thinking.
Is that his fault -- or ours? As portrayed in Cutler's film, Cheney is a force of nature, a potent mix of ambition, aggression, insight and fear. He is a blunt instrument, in both senses of the adjective.
As such, he needed to be controlled. But by whom? The answer, for several crucial years, was no one: not the benighted and incurious president he served; not the cowed Congress and (most of) the mainstream media; not the American people, who in fact voted in 2000 in greater numbers for the Democratic ticket.
More cutting and pasting from ZCs. Is that the best you can do?
Logic

United States

#1639 Mar 10, 2013
Just Saying wrote:
<quoted text>Show me anything I wrote that was racist. My disagreements with Obama are substantive and based on his destructive policies. As I said before, incompetence has no color. When you resort to calling people whose ideas you disagree with "racist", it shows desperation on your part, because you have nothing else to debate with.
Everything you post is racist.

Now you know.
Logic

United States

#1640 Mar 10, 2013
Just Saying wrote:
<quoted text>More cutting and pasting from ZCs. Is that the best you can do?
Do you have a problem with the messenger, the message or the way the message is being expressed?
Just Saying

Central Islip, NY

#1641 Mar 10, 2013
Logic wrote:
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Everything you post is racist.
Now you know.
Another ignorant response from you. Is that the best you can come up with?
Just Saying

Central Islip, NY

#1642 Mar 10, 2013
Logic wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you have a problem with the messenger, the message or the way the message is being expressed?
With ZCs, the message. With you, all of the above, especially when you throw around the racist label at those you disagree with.
Logic

United States

#1643 Mar 10, 2013
Just Saying wrote:
<quoted text>With ZCs, the message. With you, all of the above, especially when you throw around the racist label at those you disagree with.
Then you have a problem with the truth and the facts.

Especially when they do not support your racist point of

View.
Just Saying

Central Islip, NY

#1644 Mar 10, 2013
Logic wrote:
<quoted text>
Then you have a problem with the truth and the facts.
Especially when they do not support your racist point of
View.
To paraphrase a truly great President (unlike the current one):

"There you go again".

Perhaps those who only voted for Obama because he is black are racists, because by any objective standard, he wasn't remotely qualified for the job.

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