OBAMA is the BEST PRESIDENT EVER
Ed Norton

Brooklyn, NY

#15454 Jul 30, 2014
Mrs Manicotti wrote:
No, Bert Wiedermeier makes a short cookie, and I do like them short.
Who wrote Swanee River? Hamana, hamana, Ed Norton?
Nope, it wasn't me.
I will say this about Bert though.....he does have a sensible sized refrigerator.

“bar0ckalypse n0w”

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#15455 Jul 30, 2014
Hillary won't give net worth...
BS detector

Yonkers, NY

#15456 Jul 30, 2014
Bozo starts yelling at Netanyahu on a phone conference. Says things MUST be done the Bozo way IMMEDIATELY. Sounds like he's talking to the American people.

Read the history of the last weeks before the start of WWII. Creepy similarity.
R Kramden

New York, NY

#15457 Jul 30, 2014
Mrs Manicotti wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, it was "Take Me Back to Sorrento" written by Ernesto D'aqusito.. Well Mr. Kramden, it seems you know a lot about popular music...
Well, I don't like to....

I did do a little reading and studying though. Sort of spare time stuff.
No sense goin' over what you already know !!!
Pollys Opinion

Hot Springs, SD

#15458 Jul 30, 2014
Ed Norton wrote:
<quoted text>
Yea, that was the answer where cut & run Bill back pedaled off of his definitive statement that Bush lied and tried, with some muddled explanation, to claim that he wasn't sure if Bush lied knowingly or unknowingly(?). And this was the post you said was "well stated......not once.....but twice.
<quoted text>
You phony. No need to look very far, It's the very post you cite above (15112). Cut & Run's post that you said was well stated. A post built on the premise that one could lie unknowingly.
So now....tell everyone....because Cut & Run is long gone and has left you flailing in the wind like the coward he is.......just how can one lie UNKNOWINGLY ???
<quoted text>
I read it again. Pretty nasty. And we all remember what you said about posters who resort to nastiness......don't we ?
I thought I had already stated three or four times that it was "well stated" not just twice.
Pollys Opinion

Hot Springs, SD

#15459 Jul 30, 2014
UN Must Go wrote:
<quoted text>
I'd like to get your views on the border crisis, if you even deem there is a crisis, and do you think this president is doing a good job on several fronts, the problems in Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, considering his lack of attention as it appears to be the case, his so called inactivity is perplexing wouldn't you agree? And please do not post something from the Huffington Post, I want your own personal points of view on these matters.
Immigration.
For the most part the border is “secure” if we can agree on what secure means. The vast majority of those who are illegally coming into the USA are caught at the border. Secure does not mean that illegals are not showing up by bus loads and having to be dealt with. All of the children at the center of this matter were apprehended by the Border Patrol and are in custody.
Much of the problem today stems from a law that President Bush signed where by kids have to be dealt with different than adults. President Obama cannot sent them right back home due to that law that is already in place.
The crisis today was created when Congress refused to act --- either to repeal the law Bush signed or provide the funds so that the law can be complied with fully. No one likely expected the influx of kids that showed up.
Yet, I will say again that this problem is not completely of Obama's making. The law that he HAS to obey was passed before he was elected. He does not have the unilateral power to change that law. Only Congress does. So why does Congress not do it? All it would take is for a member of the Republican controlled House to introduce a bill, the House vote on it, pass it, and send it to the Senate, where Republicans and Democrats could vote together to pass it and send it to the president for his signature. If --and only if-- he vetoed the bill would Obama then be responsible for the problem.
Did Obama likely add to the influx of kids when he by executive order allowed some kids who were brought here as children and have lived here for some period of time remain? Yes. But what he did does not apply to those kids now showing up at the border. So the blame for Obama is questionable and more likely a caused by false information being spread in other countries about that executive overs.
There is plenty of blame to go around on the issue of illegal immigration and political parties who are in power doing little or nothing about it.
My policy on illegal immigration is to give them due process but sent them home. Shut off the jobs and fine those who employ them. Be humane, treat them with respect and help them return to their country of origin.
As for problems in Iraq, Afghanistan and Iran. First I don’t know that he has not paid attention to those problems and I’m not sure that actions you feel should be done. Each country is somewhat a different issue. But no I’m not interested in unfunded wars that last forever. President Bush destabilized the area and now they will settle the matter.
Bloody Bill Anderson

Hopkinsville, KY

#15460 Jul 30, 2014
BS detector wrote:
Bozo starts yelling at Netanyahu on a phone conference. Says things MUST be done the Bozo way IMMEDIATELY. Sounds like he's talking to the American people.
Read the history of the last weeks before the start of WWII. Creepy similarity.
There are similarities to the start of a World War, but it is not World War II; the situation with the U.S.A. and Israel is more like the relationship between Tsarist Russia and Serbia prior to World War 1. Russia gave the Serbian a "blank check" to use as protection against Austria. The Black Hand relied on it when they murdered Archduke Franz Ferdinand and his wife Sophie in Sarajevo. Kaiser Wilhelm of Germany gave Austria a similar "blank check" to protect Austria against Russia when the Austrians dealt with Serbia after the murders. Imperial German and Tsarist Russia were destroyed by the two minor allies that they gave the blank checks to.

Israel has always wanted a "blank check" from the United States. Thank God no American president has ever given it to them.

As for Obama talking to Netanyahu, if I was President, I would talk to the obnoxious SOB a hell of a lot plainer than Obama has. I would say, "Mr. Netanyahu, if you and the Zionist do not agree to an immediate cease fire and immediately negotiate in good faith to settle the Palestinian question justly, I will ask the UN Security Council for a resolution condemning Israel and imposing a naval and air blockade. The U.S. 6th Fleet will join the navies of Russia, Britain, France, and others to enforce that blockade. Do I make myself clear?"
Oyes

Ecru, MS

#15461 Jul 30, 2014
Pollys Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Immigration.
For the most part the border is “secure” if we can agree on what secure means. The vast majority of those who are illegally coming into the USA are caught at the border. Secure does not mean that illegals are not showing up by bus loads and having to be dealt with. All of the children at the center of this matter were apprehended by the Border Patrol and are in custody.
Much of the problem today stems from a law that President Bush signed where by kids have to be dealt with different than adults. President Obama cannot sent them right back home due to that law that is already in place.
The crisis today was created when Congress refused to act --- either to repeal the law Bush signed or provide the funds so that the law can be complied with fully. No one likely expected the influx of kids that showed up.
Yet, I will say again that this problem is not completely of Obama's making. The law that he HAS to obey was passed before he was elected. He does not have the unilateral power to change that law. Only Congress does. So why does Congress not do it? All it would take is for a member of the Republican controlled House to introduce a bill, the House vote on it, pass it, and send it to the Senate, where Republicans and Democrats could vote together to pass it and send it to the president for his signature. If --and only if-- he vetoed the bill would Obama then be responsible for the problem.
Did Obama likely add to the influx of kids when he by executive order allowed some kids who were brought here as children and have lived here for some period of time remain? Yes. But what he did does not apply to those kids now showing up at the border. So the blame for Obama is questionable and more likely a caused by false information being spread in other countries about that executive overs.
There is plenty of blame to go around on the issue of illegal immigration and political parties who are in power doing little or nothing about it.
My policy on illegal immigration is to give them due process but sent them home. Shut off the jobs and fine those who employ them. Be humane, treat them with respect and help them return to their country of origin.
As for problems in Iraq, Afghanistan and Iran. First I don’t know that he has not paid attention to those problems and I’m not sure that actions you feel should be done. Each country is somewhat a different issue. But no I’m not interested in unfunded wars that last forever. President Bush destabilized the area and now they will settle the matter.
Maybe it's the boogy man in the closets fault. Obama is president and this is HIS watch. If you can't handle the job then why claim you could? "Excuse, duck, dodge, blame someone else".
Bush set in motion the hunt for Bin Ladin but Obama is glad to take credit for his capture.

Oh I forgot, liberals love to take credit for popular things (even when they had nothing to do with it) but blame others for their failures.

Now just who was it that created the internet?

Is it your claim the area was stable before Bush?
Pollys Opinion

Hot Springs, SD

#15462 Jul 30, 2014
Oyes wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe it's the boogy man in the closets fault. Obama is president and this is HIS watch. If you can't handle the job then why claim you could? "Excuse, duck, dodge, blame someone else".
Bush set in motion the hunt for Bin Ladin but Obama is glad to take credit for his capture.
Oh I forgot, liberals love to take credit for popular things (even when they had nothing to do with it) but blame others for their failures.
Now just who was it that created the internet?
Is it your claim the area was stable before Bush?
The who, what, where, why, and when in regards to facts and laws do make a difference.

Presidents are bound by the law and if the Bush signed law says just how illegal kids must be treated then that is the facts and the law and Obama must allow the due process that it contained.

If Congress thinks they want things handled different then pass a law eliminating the Bush law and create new law that Obama can either sign or veto. Presently they are doing nothing.

In regards to Iraq it was stable prior to us invading and toppling the government in place.
Saddam Hussein was a Sunni, Iran is Shia Islam and thus was not necessarily on friendly terms. But Iraq has a majority of Shia and now will likely a line with Iran.

I have no idea who invented the internet. Who do you think invented the internet since you asked the question you must have known the answer?
Pollys Opinion

Hot Springs, SD

#15463 Jul 30, 2014
Oyes wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe it's the boogy man in the closets fault. Obama is president and this is HIS watch. If you can't handle the job then why claim you could? "Excuse, duck, dodge, blame someone else".
Bush set in motion the hunt for Bin Ladin but Obama is glad to take credit for his capture.
Oh I forgot, liberals love to take credit for popular things (even when they had nothing to do with it) but blame others for their failures.
Now just who was it that created the internet?
Is it your claim the area was stable before Bush?
I might as well answer the question before you play the Al Gore lie. So lets get the stupidity out of the way.

Let's get the obvious joke out of the way: It wasn't Al Gore who invented the Internet. In fact, Mr. Gore never really claimed to have done so. In a 1999 interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer, the then-vice president said that he had taken the initiative in creating the Internet, meaning that as a politician he had supported the computer scientists, programmers and engineers who built the global network through legislation.

The truth is, a group of people are responsible for building the Internet. First, there were the visionaries who imagined that computers would one day communicate with each other. Early computers were isolated devices that lacked the ability to share data without a lot of physical effort on the part of computer users. If you wanted to port information from one machine to another, you had to carry boxes of punch cards or reels of magnetic tape.

I do not know who the "one person" is that you feel invented the internet. I actually believe it was credited to many.
Oyes

Ecru, MS

#15464 Jul 31, 2014
Pollys Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
The who, what, where, why, and when in regards to facts and laws do make a difference.
Presidents are bound by the law and if the Bush signed law says just how illegal kids must be treated then that is the facts and the law and Obama must allow the due process that it contained.
If Congress thinks they want things handled different then pass a law eliminating the Bush law and create new law that Obama can either sign or veto. Presently they are doing nothing.
In regards to Iraq it was stable prior to us invading and toppling the government in place.
Saddam Hussein was a Sunni, Iran is Shia Islam and thus was not necessarily on friendly terms. But Iraq has a majority of Shia and now will likely a line with Iran.
I have no idea who invented the internet. Who do you think invented the internet since you asked the question you must have known the answer?
Typical liberal. ALL presidents have to contend with previous administrations ctions, Obama is not special. BUT he did make promises he knew he could not or would not keep. He made the claim he could do the job and keep those promises. So either he is an idiot for not knowing what he was doing or an intentional liar.
As for the middle east, they have been at war with each other for over two thousand years and you are an idiot if you didn't know that. Saddam was murdering his own people and invading other countries prior to us and in case you slept through it the actions against him included many other nations so chances are unseating him would have happened with or without us.
The internet was a system before Gore even won his first election and he didn't have ANYTHING to do with creating it.
Oyes

Ecru, MS

#15465 Jul 31, 2014
Pollys Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
The who, what, where, why, and when in regards to facts and laws do make a difference.
Presidents are bound by the law and if the Bush signed law says just how illegal kids must be treated then that is the facts and the law and Obama must allow the due process that it contained.
If Congress thinks they want things handled different then pass a law eliminating the Bush law and create new law that Obama can either sign or veto. Presently they are doing nothing.
In regards to Iraq it was stable prior to us invading and toppling the government in place.
Saddam Hussein was a Sunni, Iran is Shia Islam and thus was not necessarily on friendly terms. But Iraq has a majority of Shia and now will likely a line with Iran.
I have no idea who invented the internet. Who do you think invented the internet since you asked the question you must have known the answer?
Terrorist bombings that effected U.S. interests, property and persons during Bill Clinton’s administration. Shall we list a few here:

1993 – The first World Trade Center bombing
1995 – Attempted crashing of plane on White House
1995 – Oklahoma City bombing
1996 – Khobar Towers bombing – Saudi Arabia
1998 – U.S. Embassy bombings Kenya/Tanzania
2000 – USS Cole Bombing - Yemen
Of course he blamed the administration before him including the stain on Monicas dress.
The internet as we know it was a military system with roots back to the very first systems as well as NASA and its uplinks to the first manned space shots and trips to the Moon.
Oyes

Ecru, MS

#15466 Jul 31, 2014
Pollys Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
The who, what, where, why, and when in regards to facts and laws do make a difference.
Presidents are bound by the law and if the Bush signed law says just how illegal kids must be treated then that is the facts and the law and Obama must allow the due process that it contained.
If Congress thinks they want things handled different then pass a law eliminating the Bush law and create new law that Obama can either sign or veto. Presently they are doing nothing.
In regards to Iraq it was stable prior to us invading and toppling the government in place.
Saddam Hussein was a Sunni, Iran is Shia Islam and thus was not necessarily on friendly terms. But Iraq has a majority of Shia and now will likely a line with Iran.
I have no idea who invented the internet. Who do you think invented the internet since you asked the question you must have known the answer?
As far as YOUR claim he must follow the law then why is he being sued for NOT following his own law for Obamacare? Ha ha ha, typical liberal double talk. Keep selling but nobody is buying!
ZCs

Brooklyn, NY

#15467 Jul 31, 2014
President Obama!!!!!!!

Right Power!!!!!!!!
Pollys Opinion

Hot Springs, SD

#15468 Jul 31, 2014
Here is the laugh of the day paid for by the taxpayers of the USA.

House vote to sue Obama

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2014/roll468.xml

All political bull. The House has no standing in court to sue and the lawsuit will be thrown out.

Too bad after repealing the ACA 50 plus times and now suing the President over wanting the ACA implemented faster that the House did not have time in four years to pass one jobs jobs jobs bill. Remember their last mid-term battle cry of jobs jobs jobs??

Yet the amazing thing of this foolish spending of tax dollars is that the very people who at one time wanted the ACA postponed now want it fully implemented.
Pollys Opinion

Hot Springs, SD

#15469 Jul 31, 2014
Oyes wrote:
<quoted text>As far as YOUR claim he must follow the law then why is he being sued for NOT following his own law for Obamacare? Ha ha ha, typical liberal double talk. Keep selling but nobody is buying!
Complying with a law that is fully implemented and in effect compared with delaying partial implementation of a new law is two different things.

Name a single successful lawsuit in American history that is of close precedent to what they are proposing?

If not, I call this suit by Boehner just more right wing Birther-ism. I get to call bullshit. The lawsuit will almost certainly fail, and should fail, for lack of congressional standing."
Boehner's lawsuit demands that the unpopular mandate be enforced, while Obama argues that he should have the flexibility to delay it.

Merely because Obama waived or extended some deadline in implementation of a new law does not mean he has done something illegal. The Constitution calls on the president to make sure that the laws are "faithfully executed." Within “faithfully executing” and implementing a new law it is within his rights as President to implement it in a realistic manner even if that includes a delay.

Anybody can sue anybody over anything including a ham sandwich. Being successful is a whole different matter.

You just go hide and watch what happens.
Pollys Opinion

Hot Springs, SD

#15470 Jul 31, 2014
UN Must Go wrote:
<quoted text>
I'd like to get your views on the border crisis, if you even deem there is a crisis, and do you think this president is doing a good job on several fronts, the problems in Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, considering his lack of attention as it appears to be the case, his so called inactivity is perplexing wouldn't you agree? And please do not post something from the Huffington Post, I want your own personal points of view on these matters.
This news should make you Obama hater’s love him.

http://rt.com/usa/176800-hellfire-missile-dea...

http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/rania-kha...
R Kramden

New York, NY

#15471 Jul 31, 2014
Ed Norton wrote:
<quoted text>
Yea, that was the answer where cut & run Bill back pedaled off of his definitive statement that Bush lied and tried, with some muddled explanation, to claim that he wasn't sure if Bush lied knowingly or unknowingly(?). And this was the post you said was "well stated......not once.....but twice.
<quoted text>
You phony. No need to look very far, It's the very post you cite above (15112). Cut & Run's post that you said was well stated. A post built on the premise that one could lie unknowingly.
So now....tell everyone....because Cut & Run is long gone and has left you flailing in the wind like the coward he is.......just how can one lie UNKNOWINGLY ???
<quoted text>
I read it again. Pretty nasty. And we all remember what you said about posters who resort to nastiness......don't we ?
Well stated
Oyes

Ecru, MS

#15472 Jul 31, 2014
Pollys Opinion wrote:
Here is the laugh of the day paid for by the taxpayers of the USA.
House vote to sue Obama
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2014/roll468.xml
All political bull. The House has no standing in court to sue and the lawsuit will be thrown out.
Too bad after repealing the ACA 50 plus times and now suing the President over wanting the ACA implemented faster that the House did not have time in four years to pass one jobs jobs jobs bill. Remember their last mid-term battle cry of jobs jobs jobs??
Yet the amazing thing of this foolish spending of tax dollars is that the very people who at one time wanted the ACA postponed now want it fully implemented.
The house has passed many bills HARRY will not let them up for vote in the senate. Get your facts straight.
UN Must Go

Brooklyn, NY

#15473 Jul 31, 2014
Pollys Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Immigration.
For the most part the border is “secure” if we can agree on what secure means. The vast majority of those who are illegally coming into the USA are caught at the border. Secure does not mean that illegals are not showing up by bus loads and having to be dealt with. All of the children at the center of this matter were apprehended by the Border Patrol and are in custody.
Much of the problem today stems from a law that President Bush signed where by kids have to be dealt with different than adults. President Obama cannot sent them right back home due to that law that is already in place.
The crisis today was created when Congress refused to act --- either to repeal the law Bush signed or provide the funds so that the law can be complied with fully. No one likely expected the influx of kids that showed up.
Yet, I will say again that this problem is not completely of Obama's making. The law that he HAS to obey was passed before he was elected. He does not have the unilateral power to change that law. Only Congress does. So why does Congress not do it? All it would take is for a member of the Republican controlled House to introduce a bill, the House vote on it, pass it, and send it to the Senate, where Republicans and Democrats could vote together to pass it and send it to the president for his signature. If --and only if-- he vetoed the bill would Obama then be responsible for the problem.
Did Obama likely add to the influx of kids when he by executive order allowed some kids who were brought here as children and have lived here for some period of time remain? Yes. But what he did does not apply to those kids now showing up at the border. So the blame for Obama is questionable and more likely a caused by false information being spread in other countries about that executive overs.
There is plenty of blame to go around on the issue of illegal immigration and political parties who are in power doing little or nothing about it.
My policy on illegal immigration is to give them due process but sent them home. Shut off the jobs and fine those who employ them. Be humane, treat them with respect and help them return to their country of origin.
As for problems in Iraq, Afghanistan and Iran. First I don’t know that he has not paid attention to those problems and I’m not sure that actions you feel should be done. Each country is somewhat a different issue. But no I’m not interested in unfunded wars that last forever. President Bush destabilized the area and now they will settle the matter.


I noticed you still want to place almost the entire blame on Bush, and the Republicans when in fact how many bills have been knocked down, and not passed by the biggest obstructionist in Govt. namely Harry Reid, even though some have had a modicum of bi partisian support, Reid is not only part of the problem, he is most of the problem and I believe he is even more of a partisan then this president, so perhaps you can find it in your mind to lay some of the blame on him also, as both parties are culpable for this mess, and will not be rectified until both parties come to some kind of Détente. No one wants an endless war, but this presidents foreign, and domestic policies leaves much to be desired by many Americans and it should scare all who are aware of the problems, even those so called millenials, who are mostly young, urban partisans.

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