OBAMA is the BEST PRESIDENT EVER
Opinion

Hot Springs, SD

#15037 Jul 1, 2014
Bloody Bill Anderson wrote:
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Thanks.
An article that points up some interesting facts:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/30/opinion/pau...
Good article.

"The real lesson from Kansas is the enduring power of bad ideas, as long as those ideas serve the interests of the right people."

and

They seem to be able sell those bad ideas over and over again to those who do not benefit and likely are harmed economically.
Opinion

Hot Springs, SD

#15038 Jul 1, 2014
Bloody Bill Anderson wrote:
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Thanks.
An article that points up some interesting facts:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/30/opinion/pau...
I realize that no one likes to pay taxes and wants their tax dollars spend wisely.

But I also fully support a progressive income tax.

#1Those who receive the greatest benefit out the economic engine of the USA should support it the greatest.
#2 The highest earners also have far more disposable income left over after the basic necessaries of life.
#3 Accumulated Capital attracts and gathers more capital and some accumulated capital can remain untaxed for a very long time.
#4 It helps redistribute the wealth of the USA so a elite few cannot own everything worth owing.

The present tax structure that corporations operate under promotes them getting larger and larger slowing gathering up everything worth owning. The wealthy know that and spread their wealth into large corporations and set back and enjoy life off the backs of others.

Passed on wealth generation to generation creates the elite being born with a silver spoon in their mouth thinking they are entitled and vastly more intelligent than those struggling to scratch out a living.
Plotmasteram

Absecon, NJ

#15039 Jul 1, 2014
Obama a black prop for the federal government two has a target on white Christian communities through out the nation....
How does ahSBC bank pay our federal gov't2 billion dollars for drug money laundering....and the public gets no arrests,no details,just a money transfer..
Why did the FDA take the DEA authority to investigate Purdue pharmaceuticals makers of prescription strength heroin....is a Purdue pharmaceutcials HSBC drug dealing partner...who used the Feds census to target affluential white religios communities throughout America....
Obama a black prop for the banks who target white communities to undermine and to steal their ..
Every dirtbag cop tool of the government stealing from their own neighbors..they serve and protect only themselves ..........
Opinion

Hot Springs, SD

#15040 Jul 1, 2014
nac wrote:
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Democrats & republicans are two sides of the same coin... meant to give you the illusion of choice.
We've been electing republicans and democrats for generations... with nothing but disastrous results.
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If a republican gets elected in 2016, it will be because Americans buy the same lines of BS from the republican that they bought from Obama.
And your solution is to do what?

Set on the fence and claim to be a fair and balanced umpire? That you are not.

So again your solution is to do what?

Have a revolution as the other nut that agreed with you suggests?
Opinion

Hot Springs, SD

#15041 Jul 1, 2014
Bloody Bill Anderson wrote:
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I'm the sort that doesn't give a damn if he's thin skinned or if I hurt his feelings. My grandfather gave me a bit of wisdom a long time ago about how to deal with his kind, and folks like the Tea Party, "There's some bastards that you just have knock down and step on as you walk over the top of them."
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I wished I had taken the same position. I hoped I could entice him into a intelligent discussion without the insults and nasty comments.

Looks like that is not going to be the case based on the Hobby Lobby thread..

It seems that he is upset because I agreed with you on a number of issues except the ACA.
Disagreeing with some degree of reasonable discussion seems to be beyond his abilities.

Sorry I mentioned you and then he had to insult you also.

I guess I should have accepted that fact long ago, as right now there's no rehab for stupidity.

Dumb me.
Except

West Terre Haute, IN

#15042 Jul 1, 2014
Opinion wrote:
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I wished I had taken the same position. I hoped I could entice him into a intelligent discussion without the insults and nasty comments.
Looks like that is not going to be the case based on the Hobby Lobby thread..
It seems that he is upset because I agreed with you on a number of issues except the ACA.
Disagreeing with some degree of reasonable discussion seems to be beyond his abilities.
Sorry I mentioned you and then he had to insult you also.
I guess I should have accepted that fact long ago, as right now there's no rehab for stupidity.
Dumb me.
Your the one that can't stop with the 5th grade insults and nasty comments. So yes dumb you.
Opinion

Hot Springs, SD

#15043 Jul 1, 2014
Except wrote:
<quoted text> Your the one that can't stop with the 5th grade insults and nasty comments. So yes dumb you.
I haven't even gotten around to you. So far you have not said much worth worrying about.

But yes, I will deal with stupidity as it show up.

Well hello. What do you want to discuss other than me and "nac"?

Post up something original that is more than two sentences about any national news story and state an intelligent position. Maybe I will upgrade my thinking about you.

Do you have an intelligent original thought on any subject that you care to present?

You could if you wish start a separate threat or post it here. It's your choice.
Except

West Terre Haute, IN

#15044 Jul 1, 2014
Opinion wrote:
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I haven't even gotten around to you. So far you have not said much worth worrying about.
But yes, I will deal with stupidity as it show up.
Well hello. What do you want to discuss other than me and "nac"?
Post up something original that is more than two sentences about any national news story and state an intelligent position. Maybe I will upgrade my thinking about you.
Do you have an intelligent original thought on any subject that you care to present?
You could if you wish start a separate threat or post it here. It's your choice.
Polly your the one that doesn't have original thought or ideas. And that show up when you don't get your way and resort to name calling. And deflection as your doing right now.
Opinion

Hot Springs, SD

#15045 Jul 1, 2014
Except wrote:
<quoted text>Polly your the one that doesn't have original thought or ideas. And that show up when you don't get your way and resort to name calling. And deflection as your doing right now.
What am I deflecting about? You have not said anything or posted anything that I could take a stand on.

I am not wanting my way about anything. I state my opinion and thoughts about a subject and you can either agree or disagree (hopefully with some intelligence thought behind it even if I disagree). I am welcoming you to post your thoughts in an intelligent manner about any subject you wish to discuss. I see no reason to banter with you about who can insult the best or resort to name calling.

Hop to it. I'm not holding you back in any manner. The floor is yours type away as I'm heading to bed..
Except

West Terre Haute, IN

#15046 Jul 1, 2014
Opinion wrote:
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What am I deflecting about? You have not said anything or posted anything that I could take a stand on.
I am not wanting my way about anything. I state my opinion and thoughts about a subject and you can either agree or disagree (hopefully with some intelligence thought behind it even if I disagree). I am welcoming you to post your thoughts in an intelligent manner about any subject you wish to discuss. I see no reason to banter with you about who can insult the best or resort to name calling.
Hop to it. I'm not holding you back in any manner. The floor is yours type away as I'm heading to bed..
Polly your just all over the place have you forgot to take your meds.
UN must go

Brooklyn, NY

#15047 Jul 1, 2014
Anybody else see the similarity between Joe Biden, and Walter the Jeff Dunham puppet?
Bloody Bill Anderson

Cadiz, KY

#15048 Jul 2, 2014
Opinion wrote:
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I wished I had taken the same position. I hoped I could entice him into a intelligent discussion without the insults and nasty comments.
Looks like that is not going to be the case based on the Hobby Lobby thread..
It seems that he is upset because I agreed with you on a number of issues except the ACA.
Disagreeing with some degree of reasonable discussion seems to be beyond his abilities.
Sorry I mentioned you and then he had to insult you also.
I guess I should have accepted that fact long ago, as right now there's no rehab for stupidity.
Dumb me.
Like I have said before, the New Right in America now has a theological mindset, not a political one.

Their stand on the issues is a bundled unitary package. The bundle of issues is like religious dogma. You have to accept all of it. Rejection of any one part is viewed as rejection of all. Anyone who disagrees on one issue is placed in the "enemy" or as they like to label it "liberal" category. That includes lifetime traditional conservative Republicans who may agree with much of what is in the package, but disavows the Tea Party's libertarian economic extremism and Christian Right's theocratic additions.

“bar0ckalypse n0w”

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#15049 Jul 2, 2014
Time ran out for Linda Rolain.

The Las Vegas woman died Monday, less than two weeks after her family went public with details of how enrollment trouble through the Nevada Health Link insurance exchange kept her from getting treatment in January for an aggressive brain tumor.

Rolain was one of about 150 Nevadans suing Nevada Health Link contractor Xerox for enrollment mixups that left them without the health insurance they paid for.

Rolain is the first to die of complications from an illness that her family said went untreated for lack of coverage. But observers close to her case say she may not be the last, because others are in similarly urgent situations.

“We are worried that this is the first of many Nevadans who have life-threatening issues that may end up in such tragic circumstances. We urge all Nevadans to verify that their insurance is active and in place in light of the many problems that hundreds if not thousands of Nevadans have gone through,” said Rolain’s law firm, Callister, Immerman and Associates, in a statement.
El Rushbo

Valley Stream, NY

#15050 Jul 2, 2014
Opinion wrote:
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I agree that it is tough arguing with someone who presents a intelligent position based on known historical facts.
The problem is some just don't understand what they just read and can only come back with a put down.
I don't mind the $50 fine but I do mind the 50 minute lecture.

“bar0ckalypse n0w”

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#15051 Jul 2, 2014
Bloody Bill Anderson wrote:
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Like I have said before, the New Right in America now has a theological mindset, not a political one.
Their stand on the issues is a bundled unitary package. The bundle of issues is like religious dogma. You have to accept all of it. Rejection of any one part is viewed as rejection of all. Anyone who disagrees on one issue is placed in the "enemy" or as they like to label it "liberal" category. That includes lifetime traditional conservative Republicans who may agree with much of what is in the package, but disavows the Tea Party's libertarian economic extremism and Christian Right's theocratic additions.
Keep projecting.

Republicans stand for the Constitution. Liberals think it's a joke.

Republicans want less laws and taxes because we follow and pay them, unlike corrupt traitorcrats.

Liberals are removing Christian references all over America, while adding muslim ones.

Republicans want jobs and prosperity for ALL Americans. Liberals need to pit one group against another with phony wars on women because their ideas failed years ago in Russia. Liberals are also retreating on every front in real wars on women and minorities in the mid east, asia, and eastern Europe as we speak.

barock turned recession to global depression and arab spring to winter by golfing from behind.

What's his next trick? WW3 or another US Civil War?
Opinion

Hot Springs, SD

#15052 Jul 2, 2014
El Rushbo wrote:
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I don't mind the $50 fine but I do mind the 50 minute lecture.
Well taken.
Pollys Opinion

Hot Springs, SD

#15053 Jul 2, 2014
Bloody Bill Anderson wrote:
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Like I have said before, the New Right in America now has a theological mindset, not a political one.
Their stand on the issues is a bundled unitary package. The bundle of issues is like religious dogma. You have to accept all of it. Rejection of any one part is viewed as rejection of all. Anyone who disagrees on one issue is placed in the "enemy" or as they like to label it "liberal" category. That includes lifetime traditional conservative Republicans who may agree with much of what is in the package, but disavows the Tea Party's libertarian economic extremism and Christian Right's theocratic additions.
You pretty much hit the nail on the head. If you are not 100% in lockstep and fully accept their litmus tests you are the enemy.& a liberal.
I'm a conservative progressive Republican much in line with President Ike who had little use for the extreme right wing of the Republican Party back then and less for the likes of Joseph McCarthy of which today's Ted Cruz & Darrell Issa reminds me.
He got tired of the political “witch hunts” McCarthy loved to be involved in to the delight of the wing nuts.
Problem is President Obama don't have the political clout that President Ike had so likely the many scandal investigations will continue.
shameless

Denver, CO

#15054 Jul 2, 2014
Opinion wrote:
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I realize that no one likes to pay taxes and wants their tax dollars spend wisely.
But I also fully support a progressive income tax.
The wealthy know that and spread their wealth into large corporations and set back and enjoy life off the backs of others.
Passed on wealth generation to generation creates the elite being born with a silver spoon in their mouth thinking they are entitled and vastly more intelligent than those struggling to scratch out a living.
then again, those whose families lived off of welfare generation from generation also know how to play the game and never work, never pay taxes, etc.....

it works both ways.....
Bloody Bill Anderson

Cadiz, KY

#15055 Jul 2, 2014
Pollys Opinion wrote:
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You pretty much hit the nail on the head. If you are not 100% in lockstep and fully accept their litmus tests you are the enemy.& a liberal.
I'm a conservative progressive Republican much in line with President Ike who had little use for the extreme right wing of the Republican Party back then and less for the likes of Joseph McCarthy of which today's Ted Cruz & Darrell Issa reminds me.
He got tired of the political “witch hunts” McCarthy loved to be involved in to the delight of the wing nuts.
Problem is President Obama don't have the political clout that President Ike had so likely the many scandal investigations will continue.
The following letter was authored by a preacher who was also an official of a county Republican party here in western Kentucky. It was published in the Paducah Sun newspaper, pretty much as an official GOP position statement. It is the best example of the theocratic mindset of the GOP at the local grass roots level that I have ever read:

“I am at a loss to understand my fellow Kentuckians with whom I share a heritage handed down through the labors and sacrifices of God-fearing and valiant individuals and families of other generations.

I refer not to those who are agnostic or atheistic in their view of the origin of man and all things. It is logical to pattern one's behavior after the lower forms of animal life if one believes that he is a product of the evolutionary hypothesis of existence. While I disagree with these people, I can understand them.

The ones that I cannot fathom are those who claim to follow the religion of Jesus Christ on the one hand and who at the same time continue to proudly proclaim their loyalty and support of a political party whose leaders oppose every principle that is in harmony with the Word of God. Will someone please tell me how you can claim to endorse God's marriage laws as taught in the Scriptures and at the same time proudly admit being a registered member of the party of Ted Kennedy, Hillary Clinton, et al, who defeated a proposed amendment to the U.S. Constitution that would define marriage as a union of one man and one woman?

How can one claim to believe in the sanctity of every human life in its mother's protective womb and at the same time admit to being a member of the party of those who sanction the murder of those helpless infants?

How can you be so dull of hearing and of understanding that you will swallow every new installment of "the big lie"? Who told you that the Republicans are trying to take away your health care, Social Security and to pollute our water and air? Why are you resentful of those who pay the majority of our taxes and provide employment for the masses of workers in this nation?

The Democratic Party of today is not the party of other times, which was, indeed, the friend of the working people. Please consider, if you are ashamed to register as a member of the party that is more supportive of the values this nation was founded on, then at least register as an Independent and vote for the candidates whose views most reflect basic decency.”

In effect the writer is saying that a Christian cannot be a Democrat!
Pollys Opinion

Hot Springs, SD

#15056 Jul 2, 2014
shameless wrote:
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then again, those whose families lived off of welfare generation from generation also know how to play the game and never work, never pay taxes, etc.....
it works both ways.....
I agree and have no problem with actual local elected oversight of government welfare. Government welfare offices will grant benefits and the more the better as job security for them. I believe that if someone is capable of doing some productive work then they should have to do something even if cleaning up trash or being a cross walk guard.

I would really cut back on corporate welfare and ranch & farm subsidies. The SD single member to the House of Representatives Christie Noem's family has collected over a million dollars of farm welfare subsidies if reports are correct.

If someone is in dire need of help that is where I prefer my tax dollars to go rather that to welfare corporations and wealthy ranchers & farmers. I am though willing to help farmers & ranchers in disasters.

I also think unemployment benefits should start out at normal rates and then decrease over an longer period of time. Encouragement to find work let have something to survive on over a longer period of time.

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