LIfan

West Babylon, NY

#10722 Apr 9, 2014
Pat-Med 88 wrote:
The CIF in California started a pretty good state football tournament in 2006. Similar to the NCAA Basketball Tournament, but state only.
doesn't California have a selection committee determine reps for state tournament or something? Great idea but NY loves its sectional bureacracies!
Pat-Med 88

Palm Springs, CA

#10723 Apr 9, 2014
LIfan wrote:
<quoted text>doesn't California have a selection committee determine reps for state tournament or something? Great idea but NY loves its sectional bureacracies!
California is broken up into two halves, Northern California and Southern California. There are 13 Divisions throughout the state. Each Division consist of 5 Leagues, with each League consisting of between 5 and 10 teams. The Leagues have playoff games, it consist of four games which will eventually determine a Divisional Champion. Here lies the problem, they have 13 Commissioners that determine who advances to the State Playoffs. The State Playoffs have five Divisions which is represented by one team from Northern California and the other from Southern California. The same holds true for the State Division I, Division II, Division III, and Division IV finals. The Open Division doesn't have an enrollment limitation, they usually pick what they feel is the best team in Northern California vs. the best team from Southern California. They use a computer rated matrix based on the teams overall strength of schedule. In the Open Division St. John Bosco defeated De La Salle 20-14.
LIfan

West Babylon, NY

#10724 Apr 13, 2014
Pat-Med 88 wrote:
<quoted text>
California is broken up into two halves, Northern California and Southern California. There are 13 Divisions throughout the state. Each Division consist of 5 Leagues, with each League consisting of between 5 and 10 teams. The Leagues have playoff games, it consist of four games which will eventually determine a Divisional Champion. Here lies the problem, they have 13 Commissioners that determine who advances to the State Playoffs. The State Playoffs have five Divisions which is represented by one team from Northern California and the other from Southern California. The same holds true for the State Division I, Division II, Division III, and Division IV finals. The Open Division doesn't have an enrollment limitation, they usually pick what they feel is the best team in Northern California vs. the best team from Southern California. They use a computer rated matrix based on the teams overall strength of schedule. In the Open Division St. John Bosco defeated De La Salle 20-14.
interesting and full of pros and cons...no worse than the NY system that provides equal footing post-sectionals regardless of how many teams you came out on top of in your section.
bigtool

Sag Harbor, NY

#10725 Apr 13, 2014
california has numerous j.v. teams that would beat the shit out of long islands best varsity teams.
Pat-Med 88

Palm Springs, CA

#10726 Apr 13, 2014
LIfan wrote:
<quoted text>interesting and full of pros and cons...no worse than the NY system that provides equal footing post-sectionals regardless of how many teams you came out on top of in your section.
I like the open Division. In 2012 Centennial (Southern California) with an enrollment of 3,100 students lost to De La Salle (Nothern California) with an enrollment of 995 students 48-28.
Agreed

River Edge, NJ

#10727 Apr 14, 2014
If that is a public vs. private school situation, you may want to throw the numbers out the door.
SCFB

Medford, NY

#10728 Apr 14, 2014
Agreed wrote:
If that is a public vs. private school situation, you may want to throw the numbers out the door.
can't speak about the SoCal school, but De La Salle IS private. The team that ended their 151 game unbeaten streak (Bellevue, WA) is classified public, but they openly recruit as there is an "open" enrollment policy state-wide. There is no sense to discuss or comparing publics to privates for the most part...uneven playing fields.
Pat-Med 88

Palm Springs, CA

#10729 Apr 14, 2014
SCFB wrote:
<quoted text> can't speak about the SoCal school, but De La Salle IS private. The team that ended their 151 game unbeaten streak (Bellevue, WA) is classified public, but they openly recruit as there is an "open" enrollment policy state-wide. There is no sense to discuss or comparing publics to privates for the most part...uneven playing fields.
That 2004 was a tough year for De La Salle. Lost the opening game to Bellevue 39-20, then lost the next game to Clovis West(Fresno) 30-12. Then tied Palma 7-7, won the next game, then lost the fourth game to Mission Viejo 39-20. They wound up 9-3-2
Suff III

Bronx, NY

#10732 Apr 15, 2014
can't speak about the SoCal school, but De La Salle IS private. The team that ended their 151 game unbeaten streak (Bellevue, WA) is classified public, but they openly recruit as there is an "open" enrollment policy state-wide. There is no sense to discuss or comparing publics to privates for the most part...uneven playing fields.

this would compare with LUHI and St. Mary's in LI Basketball.

Since: Dec 10

Centereach, NY

#10733 Apr 15, 2014
This is a nassau/suffolk forum. Most of us readers pn this forum don't give a rats ass about anything except long island high school football, so please stop with the unnecessary posts aboutfootball in other parts of the country. WE DON'T CARE!!!!
bigtool

Sag Harbor, NY

#10734 Apr 15, 2014
driver7789 wrote:
This is a nassau/suffolk forum. Most of us readers pn this forum don't give a rats ass about anything except long island high school football, so please stop with the unnecessary posts aboutfootball in other parts of the country. WE DON'T CARE!!!!
right on unless its about black rights-their right to kill rape rob and collect-welfare.
outside

Medford, NY

#10735 Apr 15, 2014
Who are the top prospects at this year's blue chip combine in May?
Agreed

River Edge, NJ

#10736 Apr 16, 2014
driver7789 wrote:
This is a nassau/suffolk forum. Most of us readers pn this forum don't give a rats ass about anything except long island high school football, so please stop with the unnecessary posts aboutfootball in other parts of the country. WE DON'T CARE!!!!
And that is exactly why Long Island football is not at the standard it could be. Closed minded - screw the rest of the world. The rest of the world certainly is not right. However, listening, considering are important to the growth of anything we do.
bigtool

Sag Harbor, NY

#10737 Apr 16, 2014
outside wrote:
Who are the top prospects at this year's blue chip combine in May?
from long island---none.
Suff III

Bronx, NY

#10738 Apr 17, 2014
And that is exactly why Long Island football is not at the standard it could be. Closed minded - screw the rest of the world. The rest of the world certainly is not right. However, listening, considering are important to the growth of anything we do.

Go find a NJ message board to spew your trash
HS Football Fanatic

West Islip, NY

#10739 Apr 17, 2014
Agreed is right.
Many do care about football outside of our Island Football. I wish our area was more passionate about it like Florida and Texas.
Pat-Med 88

Palm Springs, CA

#10740 Apr 17, 2014
The big picture is that CA has an excellent playoff system, even with the 13 Divisional Commisioners. What makes CA different is that they really wanted to try and crown a true State Champion. With the Open Division they have come close. They picked the best team in Norhtern CA, De La Salle (14-0), points f/a 648-183, opponents W/L record 140-60, National rank # 4, State rank #2, against Southern, CA best St. John Bosco (15-0) points f/a 755-264, opponents W/L record 141-54. National rank #1, State rank #1. The strength of schedule was excellent considering that the teams they played averaged a 9-4 record. It was a hard played game with St. John Bosco winning 20-14.
Agreed

River Edge, NJ

#10741 Apr 19, 2014
Suff III wrote:
And that is exactly why Long Island football is not at the standard it could be. Closed minded - screw the rest of the world. The rest of the world certainly is not right. However, listening, considering are important to the growth of anything we do.
Go find a NJ message board to spew your trash
You are so angry.
bigtool

Silver Spring, MD

#10742 Apr 19, 2014
Agreed wrote:
<quoted text>
You are so angry.
the black people say you is so angry.talk black on this forum its so cool.
Morris

Elmhurst, NY

#10743 Apr 23, 2014
You want to get Long Island on the same page as Cali. Well you better draft some of those kids and head coach from Cali to Long Island. If you think it's time for a change

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