I think we should let elephants loose in Australia

Feb 1, 2012 Full story: New Scientist 70

Ecologist David Bowman of the University of Tasmania in Hobart, Australia, argues that large herbivores including elephants should be introduced to Australia to bring balance to a country ravaged by uncontrolled wildfires Fellow ecologists including George Wilson of Australian National University in Canberra and Peter O'Brien of the University of ... (more)

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“"Helloooowww"”

Since: Feb 12

Sydney

#1 Feb 1, 2012
havent we learnt our lesson yet?!
auksorius family history

Hobart, Australia

#2 Feb 1, 2012
havnt we learnt our lesson with the cane toad.

“"Helloooowww"”

Since: Feb 12

Sydney

#3 Feb 1, 2012
auksorius family history wrote:
havnt we learnt our lesson with the cane toad.
exactly
sarky

Adelaide, Australia

#4 Feb 1, 2012
Elephants produce hundreds of offspring each year and hide under leaves and in hollow logs. Any small animal that eats an Elephant will become sick and die.

Since: Apr 11

Roma, QLD

#5 Feb 1, 2012
Haha pretty sure we can take care of elephants and Rhinos, they are huge and breed slowly, won't be hard keeping population control under wraps

“"Helloooowww"”

Since: Feb 12

Sydney

#6 Feb 1, 2012
if that was a referral to cane toads try tens of thousands of eggs a year.

The cane toads advance across northern australia is the fastest of any species known, including humans. they are moveing faster and faster,
because now only the strongest and fastest toads at the front of the migration are mating with each other, the toads are changing how they were when they first were introduced to queensland 70 years ago.
the toads at the front of the pack are more slender and physically larger.
evolution at lightening pace.

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Since: Feb 12

Sydney

#7 Feb 1, 2012
Australian Bigot wrote:
Haha pretty sure we can take care of elephants and Rhinos, they are huge and breed slowly, won't be hard keeping population control under wraps
yeh but what about the effects they would cause to the native vegetation and also there is no way our ecosystem could break down their fieces. who knows what negative causes all these could inflict
Nosarky

Adelaide, Australia

#8 Feb 1, 2012
Rather than comparing Elephants with Amphibians it might be more helpful to look at other large mammals eg Camels. Camels have indeed bred up to very large numbers and do cause some environmental damage.
..And imagine the potential NT News newspaper headlines about rogue Elephants terrorising communities!

Having said that, I'm sure we could keep Elephant numbers under control if we set out to do so and did it right.

Since: Dec 10

Canberra, Australia

#9 Feb 1, 2012
West Sydney Man wrote:
if that was a referral to cane toads try tens of thousands of eggs a year.
The cane toads advance across northern australia is the fastest of any species known, including humans. they are moveing faster and faster,
because now only the strongest and fastest toads at the front of the migration are mating with each other, the toads are changing how they were when they first were introduced to queensland 70 years ago.
the toads at the front of the pack are more slender and physically larger.
evolution at lightening pace.
yeah but the little blighters are hard to spot in a truck or shipping container, you can't miss an elephant or their offsping....

Since: Dec 10

Canberra, Australia

#10 Feb 1, 2012
West Sydney Man wrote:
<quoted text> yeh but what about the effects they would cause to the native vegetation and also there is no way our ecosystem could break down their fieces. who knows what negative causes all these could inflict
well I think a lot of our vegetation would be toxic to an elephant, and I would back a gum against a hefalump anyday...if they're silly enough to eat the bark or leaves they would die...then there is the snakes...they can tread on a few of them, I wouldn't mind...

Since: Apr 11

Roma, QLD

#11 Feb 1, 2012
West Sydney Man wrote:
<quoted text> yeh but what about the effects they would cause to the native vegetation and also there is no way our ecosystem could break down their fieces. who knows what negative causes all these could inflict
That's why they say they are going to do it slowly and carefully, and weigh up if the positives will outweigh the negatives of the invasive grass species, I'm sure thell do well people wouldn't be suicidal or stupid enough to repeat the cane toad senario, as long as there are adequate trials and research done before full on application I don't see how it can hurt

Since: Apr 11

Roma, QLD

#12 Feb 1, 2012
Nosarky wrote:
Rather than comparing Elephants with Amphibians it might be more helpful to look at other large mammals eg Camels. Camels have indeed bred up to very large numbers and do cause some environmental damage.
..And imagine the potential NT News newspaper headlines about rogue Elephants terrorising communities!
Having said that, I'm sure we could keep Elephant numbers under control if we set out to do so and did it right.
Camels only got to where they did because they were left to do it, by the sounds of this it will be a controlled venture
Nosarky

Adelaide, Australia

#13 Feb 1, 2012
Australian Bigot wrote:
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Camels only got to where they did because they were left to do it, by the sounds of this it will be a controlled venture
Not arguing with that.
Elias

Glen Waverley, Australia

#14 Feb 1, 2012
Now when somebody talks about an "Elephant in the room" we may have to check thoroughly.
scooterman

Australia

#15 Feb 1, 2012
Not as silly as it sounds.

Since: Dec 10

Canberra, Australia

#16 Feb 1, 2012
Australian Bigot wrote:
<quoted text>
Camels only got to where they did because they were left to do it, by the sounds of this it will be a controlled venture
yes but we did manage to sell them to the Saudi's, because the breed we had here was stronger than theirs.:)
Elias

Glen Waverley, Australia

#17 Feb 2, 2012
scooterman wrote:
Not as silly as it sounds.
"Daddy there's an elephant in the backyard eating the Petunias".
Ken

Australia

#18 Feb 2, 2012
"Daddy there's big grey animal in the backyard picking Petunias with it's tail and you'll NEVER guess where it's sticking them"
scooterman

Australia

#19 Feb 2, 2012
Hitting one driving a car would do a bit of damage, I don't think trucks with bullbars would be immune. On the plus side a small bike or scooter might pass underneath its belly safely.....
Elias

Glen Waverley, Australia

#20 Feb 2, 2012
scooterman wrote:
Hitting one driving a car would do a bit of damage, I don't think trucks with bullbars would be immune. On the plus side a small bike or scooter might pass underneath its belly safely.....
Simple...just paint lines for an Elephant crossing.

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