New Doc Gives NY Mom Hope in Missing Gay Son Case

Oct 13, 2011 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: EDGE

A mother in New York State has clung for years to the hope that she might eventually find out what happened to her gay son, a young man who vanished after fleeing a sauna in Vienna four years ago.

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“Child of the Universe”

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Sounds like he might have been LSD tripping... if so, who knows what was going through his mind at the time.

Sorry for being a child of the 70's - does meth and E or whatever letter of the alphabet is now cool give the same effect?

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Oct 14, 2011
 
after reading the article I don't see how anyone could come to the conclusion that he was LSD tripping. to me, it seems as if he was afraid for his life. time will tell ( I hope his mother gets the closure she needs). this is so sad and a bit scary.

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Oct 14, 2011
 
Tizzle wrote:
after reading the article I don't see how anyone could come to the conclusion that he was LSD tripping. to me, it seems as if he was afraid for his life. time will tell ( I hope his mother gets the closure she needs). this is so sad and a bit scary.
Afraid, perhaps, yet not pursued by anyone and running down the streets in a towel?

What a shame. He seems to be a (good-looking - ok, sue me!) fellow who had a lot of love happening in his life.

Since: Dec 08

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Oct 14, 2011
 
I think this reads a bit like a spy mystery. The cirtical fact to me is that he worked for the UN.

Blackmail, perhaps? Even if he was "out" the fact that he frequented saunas might have been used against him or perhaps the person he was with was under age and snuck in. Or he was doing something unacceptably kinky that could be used for blackmail.

The cover-up by the police hints at international involvement.

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Oct 14, 2011
 
JohnInToronto wrote:
I think this reads a bit like a spy mystery. The cirtical fact to me is that he worked for the UN.
Blackmail, perhaps? Even if he was "out" the fact that he frequented saunas might have been used against him or perhaps the person he was with was under age and snuck in. Or he was doing something unacceptably kinky that could be used for blackmail.
The cover-up by the police hints at international involvement.
I just visited his mother's website. It turns out there is another fellow missing from Austria as well... Something's rotten in Denmark! The police there don't seem to have a great reputation, either, from the info provided on the site.

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JohnInToronto wrote:
I think this reads a bit like a spy mystery. The cirtical fact to me is that he worked for the UN.
Blackmail, perhaps? Even if he was "out" the fact that he frequented saunas might have been used against him or perhaps the person he was with was under age and snuck in. Or he was doing something unacceptably kinky that could be used for blackmail.
The cover-up by the police hints at international involvement.
Your ideas are valid - but I can't see how the European mind would see sexual activity as negatively as parts of North America do - if so, it would mean that Austria is still stuck in a pre-WW I mindset... which I have a hard time reconciling with my knowledge of modern Europe.

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Leftatalbuquerque wrote:
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I just visited his mother's website. It turns out there is another fellow missing from Austria as well... Something's rotten in Denmark! The police there don't seem to have a great reputation, either, from the info provided on the site.
People go "missing" from every country in the world everyday.

While certainly tragic, it's simply not that unusual.

Incidentally, not to go off n a tangent, but...

Nobody expects themselves to wind up a statistic, such as missing, murdered, kidnapped, or some other horrible thing. Although chances are very small that something like that will happen to you, statistically speaking, we all know that it DOES happen.

Because of that, I NEVER leave my home without my celfone, a gps device (actually 3 of them), and a personal locator beacon (plb).

Now that may sound ridiculous and overkill, but the technology is amazing and cheap. So why doesn't everyone carry those things ?

If more people did, there would be less victims of terrible things in the world.

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Leftatalbuquerque wrote:
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Your ideas are valid - but I can't see how the European mind would see sexual activity as negatively as parts of North America do - if so, it would mean that Austria is still stuck in a pre-WW I mindset... which I have a hard time reconciling with my knowledge of modern Europe.
Austria is actually a very conservative country and IS somewhat backwards. For example, unlike Germany, it has never really atoned for the Holocaust.

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Leftatalbuquerque wrote:
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Your ideas are valid - but I can't see how the European mind would see sexual activity as negatively as parts of North America do - if so, it would mean that Austria is still stuck in a pre-WW I mindset... which I have a hard time reconciling with my knowledge of modern Europe.
I agree that the U.S. is unfortunately still very puritanical, and you can see examples of thsi legacy everyday.

But remember that this puritanism was BORN IN Europe, and transplanted here. It certainly was not native. Remember that the native peoples were here AND the Spanish, long before the Puritans arrived.

And homophobia, in all its forms is one legacy of that Puritanism.
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Why would any sane person worry if some dirty queer went missing?
Nobody cares, nor should they.

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Afraid, perhaps, yet not pursued by anyone and running down the streets in a towel?
What a shame. He seems to be a (good-looking - ok, sue me!) fellow who had a lot of love happening in his life.
He was not pursued according to witnesses but some of the stuff in the article indicates that there may have been more not reported than reported...
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HOMOSEXUAL IMPULSES AND OTHER UNGODLY TRAITS

The Bible, God’s revelation to us, depicts two groups, virgins, that claim to be His in Matthew Chap 25. One group has oil in their lamps, Holy Spirit, the others don’t. One group represents overcomers, the other group claims to be His, but are not.

King David , in Psalm 51 stated “ I was shapen in iniquity, in sin did my mother conceive me”. That is the nature of man’s condition when born into this world. We have inherited hearts that are averse to the heart of our heavenly father. Then we furthermore fall under the influence of others of like condition and of various ungodly practices in our daily experiences. Of all these associations we form our habits and personalities. We become a composite of inherited and cultivated influences.“There is none righteous, no not one, for all have come short of the glory of God”. Rom.3:10.

We are not to trust the impulses, habits and urges of the flesh, but St. Paul tells us in Romans seven that there is a law in our members that wants dominance wants to retain control over us, even when we strive to do right against urges and habits.

When we are baptized into Christ and wish to repent of these things, we enter the “race that is set before us” Paul says (1Cor. 9:24, Heb 12:1, 2Tim. 4:7). As we seek to follow the direction and correction given in God’s word, the natural heart, is always ready to overtake us and retain dominance. But God says “Where sin abounds, grace much more abounds”. Rom. 5:20. He says in John 1:12,“As many as received Him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God”.(If we weren’t God’s sons before, then whose sons we’re we?) We don’t need power to be forgiven, but we very often need power to overcome the inclinations of the natural heart. We “come boldly before the throne of grace to receive mercy and grace to help in time of need” Heb 1:16.

The world tells us to follow our hearts, but God tells us to follow His heart.“Let this mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus”. And “Lean not to your own understanding, but in all your ways acknowledge Him and He will direct your paths”.

When we try to take our natural born impulses and insist that we are right to follow through practicing it’s demands, and claim to be Christians, then we make a God of our own contrivance, another Jesus and another Gospel, and are surely deceived. And when we take pleasure in those (support or encourage) that do such things against which God has clearly condemned, we condemn ourselves.

We are to trust God for direction, not ourselves. We surrender to His “Way, truth, and life”. We die to self daily, and take up our cross; that which crosses the affections of the natural heart, and walk in the path of righteousness that He lays out for us. By His direction and power we give up our life and take on His life. It’s a life for a life.“ He that overcometh shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be my son” Rev 21:7. Get in the race. The door of mercy won’t be open forever.

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