New City of Ithaca outdoor smoking ru...

New City of Ithaca outdoor smoking rules start Aug. 1

There are 3 comments on the PressConnects.com story from Jul 23, 2010, titled New City of Ithaca outdoor smoking rules start Aug. 1. In it, PressConnects.com reports that:

Ted Schiele has sometimes been frustrated, as he enters the Tompkins County Human Services building, to see a man smoking just outside the door, leaning against a sign designating the area as 'Tobacco Free.' Schiele, coordinator of Tobacco-Free Tompkins, distributes the 'T-Free' signs to any government, business or landlord who wants them.

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“Tobacco money is blood money”

Since: May 10

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#1 Jul 25, 2010
This is another step in the right direction. All of the ignorant smokers who keep on predicting the demise of the smoking ban should see the handwriting on the wall. First indoor bans, then outdoor bans, then bans in cars with kids. The bans are getting stricter and more numerous.
PU4U

Nashville, TN

#2 Jul 27, 2010
The problem here is that it is just more toothless noise. This approach shows no realistic evaluation of the problem it is supposed to address.

"A policeman" can now "ask" the smoker to move or put out the smoke.

How many times is a policeman going to be there before the damage is done and the butt already on the pavement?

Sure, there is an applicable fine, and it goes up. Again, though, the fine only applies if a policeman shows up in time and then the smoker fails to move or stop smoking when the policeman asks.

So, no matter how many times the smoker lights up in exactly the same place, causing exactly the same problem, the smoker is doing just fine so long as he/she is willing to butt out or move along in the rare case when a policeman offers the choice.

Warning tickets should be involved, and the fine imposed for anyone who amasses say, three of those, whether they move on, butt out, or not.

“Tobacco money is blood money”

Since: May 10

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#3 Jul 27, 2010
PU4U wrote:
The problem here is that it is just more toothless noise. This approach shows no realistic evaluation of the problem it is supposed to address.
"A policeman" can now "ask" the smoker to move or put out the smoke.
How many times is a policeman going to be there before the damage is done and the butt already on the pavement?
Sure, there is an applicable fine, and it goes up. Again, though, the fine only applies if a policeman shows up in time and then the smoker fails to move or stop smoking when the policeman asks.
So, no matter how many times the smoker lights up in exactly the same place, causing exactly the same problem, the smoker is doing just fine so long as he/she is willing to butt out or move along in the rare case when a policeman offers the choice.
Warning tickets should be involved, and the fine imposed for anyone who amasses say, three of those, whether they move on, butt out, or not.
That WILL come. We are marching forward one small step at a time. 10 years ago, any type of outdoor smoking ban would have been unheard of, but now they are commonplace. More and more bans have specific sanctions against smokers because smokers just do not catch the drift. Smokers will continue to act like ashholes and drop their butts (despite what the hard core smokers here say, smokers DO litter) all over the place. Who would have thought that there would ever be a smoking ban in cars?

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