Berwyn man convicted of trying to shoot cops outside bar

A Cook County jury Friday convicted a Berwyn man of attempted murder of a police officer and aggravated battery of a firearm for shooting at two off-duty Chicago police officers outside a bar in 2004, ... Read more
rico

Chicago, IL

#48 Aug 3, 2008
Nosey dude wrote:
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You gotta be kidding??!?So a low income person starts crap with the cops?Then they catch a case with no money for bail,no money for a lawyer.Then what do they do?Oh yeah,they sue the CPD.Stupid.
There's this thing called a public defender. And then you have your "ambulance chaser" lawyers. I bet you also don't believe how a Mexican who speaks no english and enters this country illegally and still be able to buy a house in Berwyn.
Aztek

United States

#49 Aug 3, 2008
rico wrote:
<quoted text> There's this thing called a public defender. And then you have your "ambulance chaser" lawyers. I bet you also don't believe how a Mexican who speaks no english and enters this country illegally and still be able to buy a house in Berwyn.
What about the Puertoricans who can't speak English?
UNKNOWN

Cedar Knolls, NJ

#50 Aug 12, 2008
I know for a fact that Jonas Haro is innocent, yah he was a gangbanger but I know that night he had nothing to do with the shooting. It was Joey Montoro.I think they really needed to get there facts straight! I was a witness there that night and I saw everything go down! Liars Liars Liars Now poor Jonas has to suffer in jail for something he didnt do!!
rico

Chicago, IL

#51 Aug 12, 2008
UNKNOWN wrote:
I know for a fact that Jonas Haro is innocent, yah he was a gangbanger but I know that night he had nothing to do with the shooting. It was Joey Montoro.I think they really needed to get there facts straight! I was a witness there that night and I saw everything go down! Liars Liars Liars Now poor Jonas has to suffer in jail for something he didnt do!!
So you want us to feel sorry for a gang-banger?
I don't think so.
Aztek

United States

#53 Aug 12, 2008
Ernie Banks wrote:
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And, I know for a FACT that Jonas Haro is GUILTY because I was present at his trial! I saw all the facts that the Prosecutor & Defense made, and lets be honest here the Defense was a JOKE! Every so called witness that the Defense put on the stand lied and contridicted each others sworn statement!
You cannot believe the prosecution in every trial! The prosecution will use blank shells to make it seem real and if you believe them, well you just got shot with an empty bullet. It's like poker the system controls peoples lives guilty or not. Look how many that were convicted over the years and 30-50 years later released after finding out it was the wrong guy. You can't believe the corrupt society that controls the justice sytem!
cicero messiah

La Grange Park, IL

#55 Aug 13, 2008
ernie banks, u got to be a complete idiot. jonas is my friend and he absolutely had nothing to do with it. He was nowhere around when that happened. I KNOW FOR A FACT. Berwyn had been tryin to slam jonas for a long time and when they caught his brother, that was there chance to pin it on him. UNKNOWN- if you were at the bar, why didnt you testify or call the police or anything. u obviously know people in the neighborhood. all you people on here slammin jonas need to look at yourself before you pass judgement. Jonas is a good guy and my buddy and i pray that the truth really gets out. jonas is 1000% innocent
cicero messiah

La Grange Park, IL

#56 Aug 13, 2008
im just tired of people like ernie banks hanging on every word out of the prosecution or the police. u people dont even know how high up the ladder this really went. first off, how come none of the police ended up gettin drug tested? how does jonas get identified and he wasnt even there? Joey montoros dad is a berwyn cop. phil cline, chicago cheif of police went to berwyn and made a deal with berwyn. the deal was to identify jonas in exchange for not drug testing the police.The problem is these cops want to be gangsters like the movies and they pinned it on an inocent guy. jonas, we know the truth and are praying for u
UNKNOWN

Cedar Knolls, NJ

#57 Aug 13, 2008
Cicero messiah well the other guy that was involved is my B.D.so yah I couldn't do much!But I think that this is all bullshit! Poor jonas dude..
rico

Chicago, IL

#58 Aug 13, 2008
He choose the lifestyle so he sows what he reaps.
Aztek

Kankakee, IL

#59 Aug 13, 2008
Ernie Banks wrote:
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I agree with you too a point...
Sure there are times when you can not beleive everything that the prosecution presents, BUT then you should be able to beleive the DEFENSE!
What happens when you can not beleive the defense because EACH AND EVERY SO CALLED WITNESS THAT THE DEFENSE PRESENTS BEFORE THE COURT LIES? Every witness in this case told a different story! No one was consistant in there story. SO, if you can not beleive the Defense in any way shape or form, and the Prosecution makes a case that is BELEIVABLE WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT (In my mind) then what choice do you have but to say....
HE'S GUILTY!
True! But what do you say when 20-30 years later the prosecution finds out he wasn't guilty? There goes are tax dollars to pay this guy for wrongful imprisonment.
Aztek

Kankakee, IL

#60 Aug 13, 2008
rico wrote:
He choose the lifestyle so he sows what he reaps.
Just like conservs when they get caught for embezzlement, tax invasion, fraud or money laundering or for the most of them child pornography!!

Since: Aug 08

Lebanon

#61 Aug 13, 2008
i did time with jonas back in 99 or 2000, cant really remember , he was an alright guy , considering we where both in different gangs , but we where the only none blacks , so we kinda stuck together . was locked up with him for about 2wks i would say , he was in there for shooting a berwyn Ambro by the name of Dino , who snitched on him . not sure if he did time for it or not , we where minors at the time . he goes by the nick name Lil DVS , if i remember right he couldnt read or write very good , thats why he spelled in LIL DVS . and the other dude is Score from the 4GMs , aint that right @ messiah ?
Aztek

United States

#63 Aug 13, 2008
Ernie Banks explain this! Why are so many men falsely sentenced for crimes that they didn't commit? I'm guessing because the prosecution had a good case at the time! but convicted he wrong guy! When a Police Officer can murder two wives and get away with it I guess that's justice!!

Largest Gathering of Exonerated at Northwestern, Dead Men Relay Walk Across Illinois and Special Staging of 'The Exonerated' for Gov. Ryan

CHICAGO --- The Center on Wrongful Convictions at Northwestern University School of Law shone a bright light on flaws in the capital punishment system Dec. 15 and 16.

On Dec. 15, the largest gathering ever of exonerated death row prisoners (36) and prominent advocates for reform of the capital punishment system took center stage at the law school; on Dec. 16, 30 of the of exonerated participated in a "Dead Men Walking" relay walk across Illinois; and on Monday evening a special performance of "The Exonerated," a highly acclaimed play that features a number of celebrities, premiered in Chicago in a special performance staged for Gov. George H. Ryan.

"The events underscored flaws in the capital punishment system –- false confessions, lying jailhouse snitches, erroneous eyewitness testimony, incompetent lawyers," said Professor Lawrence C. Marshall, legal director of the Center on Wrongful Convictions.

"The flesh-and-blood consequences of the system’s flaws were brought home as Gov. Ryan faces a momentous decision on whether to commute all of Illinois’ current death sentences to life in prison without parole."

Flaws in the capital punishment system have led to wrongful convictions and death sentences in 102 cases nationally, including 13 in Illinois. It is expected that between 35 and 40 of the exonerated will attend the gathering, according to Rob Warden, executive director of the Center on Wrongful Convictions.

The center is an outgrowth of the National Conference on Wrongful Convictions and the Death Penalty that Marshall and others convened at Northwestern School of Law in November 1998. The conference sensitized the public as never before to the alarming number of innocent persons who have been sentenced to death in the United States

The 13 Illinois exonerations prompted Gov. Ryan to declare a moratorium on executions and appoint a blue-ribbon commission to study the problem and recommend reforms. The commission recommended 85 reform measures, which currently are being debated by the Illinois General Assembly. Before Gov. Ryan leaves office on Jan. 13, he will decide on clemency petitions brought in the cases of 160 men and women currently under death sentence in Illinois.
UNKNOWN

Cedar Knolls, NJ

#65 Aug 14, 2008
mr capone wrote:
i did time with jonas back in 99 or 2000, cant really remember , he was an alright guy , considering we where both in different gangs , but we where the only none blacks , so we kinda stuck together . was locked up with him for about 2wks i would say , he was in there for shooting a berwyn Ambro by the name of Dino , who snitched on him . not sure if he did time for it or not , we where minors at the time . he goes by the nick name Lil DVS , if i remember right he couldnt read or write very good , thats why he spelled in LIL DVS . and the other dude is Score from the 4GMs , aint that right @ messiah ?
Thats not how you spell score talking about someone that cant spell check yours!!Its SKOAR!
My baby daddy!
cicero messiah

La Grange Park, IL

#66 Aug 14, 2008
yeah thats skoar. ernie banks, im not gonna argue with u. jonas was not there, didnt know about it, and had nothing to do with it. arguing with u isnt gonna help my buddy get out. i got held on questioning a couple years ago in berwyn for 3 days and all they did was show me pictures of jonas and try to get me to blame it on him. they been after him a long time and they pinned this on him and my guy might have to do 40-50-60 years. that is not justice that is corruption
Aztek

Chicago, IL

#68 Aug 14, 2008
Ernie Banks wrote:
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While I might not be able to explain this, I can explain why Jonas Haro was proven to be Guilty of this crime - The Prosecution provided enough evidence to prove Jonas Haro was guilty without a shadow of a doubt. Jonas Haro had an opportunity to Defend himself in court, and he choose to NOT get on the stand to do so. Furthermore, The Defense Attorney in this particular case brought forth a group of witness (his Family) that each had a different story - No one could agree as to who was in that house on the night of the shooting. And, no one was able to agree on anything. Each Defense witness had a different Story as to who was in that house. The Defenses main piece of evidence was a Video tape of the front door of the home that Jonas Haro lived in, Some of the family said that Joey Montoya showed up at there home after the shootings and said he shot at cops, yet other family members said Joey was NOT in the house on that night and no conversation took place like that? AND on top of all of that, in two plus years since the crime occured and Jonas Haro was brought to trial, No one in the Family came forward to say Jonas was innocent and to prove he had nothing to do with the shooting? In two plus year the entire family could not at least get there story straight as to who was in that house, and to come forward with this tape? Those are the questions that need to be answered here!
Jonas Haro is Guilty of this crime. I don't know how long he is going to be in jail, but it should be a long time in my opinion.
Well, if you are wrong and if he is found innocent later on, the jury should pay for his exoneration not use our tax paying money!!
Aztek

Chicago, IL

#69 Aug 14, 2008
Aztek wrote:
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Well, if you are wrong and if he is found innocent later on, the jury should pay for his exoneration not use our tax paying money!!
I heard from the streets that Ernie Banks is part of the corruption trial and is getting paid to frame Haro!!!

Since: Jul 08

Berwyn, IL

#70 Aug 14, 2008
That's how we roll in Berwyn. Just ask anyone who grew up here and still lives here. It's like short man syndrome at a civic level.
Clifton Clowers

Machesney Park, IL

#72 Aug 15, 2008
A-G-L-N Retired brother wrote:
Cicero Police Take Down High-Ranking Gang-banger
7/1/2008 5:00:00 PM
Cicero, Illinois... Robert English is back where he belongs: behind bars.
On Saturday, Cicero Gang Crimes Tactical officers arrested English, a known, high-ranking leader of a local street gang with an extensive criminal history, on felony unlawful use of a weapon (UUW) charges after arriving at the 1300 block of South 57th Court in response to a citizen report of a man with a gun. Eyewitnesses advised police that English was pointing a firearm at residents in the neighborhood as they passed by.
Prior to his arrest on Saturday by Cicero police, English had been out on bond awaiting trial for: armed robbery charges in Chicago; child endangerment charges in Berwyn, and aggravated battery charges of a Cicero police officer in Cicero.
Cicero police officers recovered the firearm identified as belonging to English on the 1300 block of South 59th Court and got approval from Felony Review of the Cook County State's Attorney's office for the following charges against English:
720 ILCS 5/24-1.6, Aggravated Unlawful Use of A Weapon by a Felon (3 counts)
720 ILCS 5/24-1(a)4, Aggravated UUW by a Felon within 1000' of a Park
At a preliminary hearing in the Maybrook Court (Maywood) this morning, English's bond was revoked and he is now behind bars awaiting trial.
"This guy should have not been on our streets in the first place," said Town President Larry Dominick. "I'm just glad that he did not hurt anyone else, that we had citizens step up and identify this thug so that our police could do the excellent work they did to ensure that we do not see Mr. English back in Cicero for a long, long time--like never."
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Attachment: Mugshot of Robert English
http://www.thetownofcicero.com/content/img/f2...
This guy Rob English also ran the 12.St.Players in Berwyn. I know some brothers that knew this guys brother who was shot to death. It aint just " **** " buddy, quit with the non needed racial attacks on a certain persons race. Every race has trash and bad guys!
You're right. Every race has trash and bad guys. George W. Bush is living proof of this fact.
Neighbor

La Grange, IL

#73 Aug 15, 2008
Taz is not a bad guy. I'm his neighbor and these freakin cops are ALWAYS harrassing him. They harass him and his "known gang memebers" for some money when they need some extra cash. How are we supposed to defend ourselves from crooked cops!!?? What cop doesn't have anger mangement or power issues - and lets not talk about the alcoholism. WHY DOES THIS COP HAVE A GUN IN A BAR WHILE DRINKING?? Taz, fight the man!

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