USS Chesapeake Captured by British 1812

USS Chesapeake Captured by British 1812

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MrDoughnut

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#1 Mar 18, 2013
I was a little embarassed to find this out.My relative Parker Wickham who died in 1785 was assumed to be a Loyalist. General George Washington sent his spies to bid on Parker's property seized by New York through an attainer. The properties included Robin's Island, the Cutchogue house built in 1649, and other land. England compensated Parker for his property loss so I wondered if the USS Chesapeake captured by the British in the War of 1812 was sent to the Parish of Wickham to be turned into a mill for that reason.
MrDoughnut

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#2 Mar 18, 2013
I have read that Mr Landon one of George Washington spies that bid and won some of Parker Wickham's properties had a grandchild that married a Wickham an so the property ended up in the Wickham Case Family.
Hello mr doughnut

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#3 Jun 12, 2013
MrDoughnut wrote:
I was a little embarassed to find this out.My relative Parker Wickham who died in 1785 was assumed to be a Loyalist. General George Washington sent his spies to bid on Parker's property seized by New York through an attainer. The properties included Robin's Island, the Cutchogue house built in 1649, and other land. England compensated Parker for his property loss so I wondered if the USS Chesapeake captured by the British in the War of 1812 was sent to the Parish of Wickham to be turned into a mill for that reason.
Looks like we're related. Parker wickham is in my line of wickham as well. My line went to California firmthengold rush and on to South Africa. There are almost none left of us. Shoot me an email and let's connect!

Russell(at) quinan.net
MrDoughnut

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#4 Aug 2, 2014
Hello mr doughnut wrote:
<quoted text>
Looks like we're related. Parker wickham is in my line of wickham as well. My line went to California firmthengold rush and on to South Africa. There are almost none left of us. Shoot me an email and let's connect!
Russell(at) quinan.net
Parker Wickham was the son of Joseph Wickham 1701- 1749. Parker had several siblings.

1. Abigail Hull-Paine (Wickham) b: 5 DEC 1724
2. Parker Wickham b: 23 FEB 1726/27 in Southhold, Suffolf Co., Long Island New York
3. Joseph Wickham III b: 26 NOV 1728 in Southhampton, Suffolk Co, New York
4. Sarah Conklyn-Goldsmith (Wickham) b: 12 MAR 1729/30
5. Thomas Wickham b: 13 JUN 1733
6. John Wickham b: 20 DEC 1734 in Long Island, Queens, New York
7. Elizabeth Reeve (Wickham) b: 27 OCT 1738
8. Jerusha Wickham b: 13 FEB 1739/40
9. Daniel Hall Wickham

Abigail a sister was the oldest but she could not inherit properties that under English tradition go to the eldest male. Joseph the second oldest male was not the oldest male which is why Parker got all the big properties which were taken after the Revolutionary War by an act of attainer by New York. Thomas was a Patriot who had gone to Yale with Landon the enemy of Parker. Thomas was a member of the Continental Congress who owned a Sloop which carried refugees from LongIsland to Connecticut to avoid the war and take over of the Island by the Brittish.

After the Original Thomas who came to America some say as early as1638 I descend from 3 Josephs, Daniel, George, John, Charly, and my dad. I searched several Online sites with some data on years slighty off but I certain I have the right line of Great Grand Fathers. A relative also confirmed some of my info with a Ancestor chart she had made. I have gotten info from sites in England and matched them to data gathered on ancestors.com . I feel I have the line of family going back as far as William the conquer's attack on England in 1066.
MrDoughnut

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#5 Aug 2, 2014
I think it its interesting because my great grand mothers also come from historical famous names like Parker who may be related to the Parker tree that spawned Bonnie Parker the gangster and the James Parker who brought the first Printing Press to Woodbridge New Jersey!

What's funny is Thomas Wickham is thought to have come with a brother Richard on the ship John from London along with the first printing press in America! According to Wiki they think Richard and Thomas were brothers however if they were related Richard would have been probably a step brother. See another George Wickham born in 1577 died in 1609 and his wife Jane Sheppard then remarried Henry Chatfied. George's son Thomas married Martha Chitty but Thomas died before his son Thomas was born. Martha married again to William Languish. The deceased Thomas did have a brother John. So Richard was a step uncle or step brother. Any way Thomas came to America some time before 1648 maybe in 1638 with another brother or step relative. But you have heard nothing yet since the descendants of the Thomas coming to America were big names in the US Civil War. Later on
MrDoughnut

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#6 Aug 2, 2014
That's right people next time study your History about Robert E Lee the CSA General. His son Rooney Lee married Charlotte Georgiana Wickham a decendant of Thomas Wickham my ancestor. CSA Brigadier General Williams Carter Wickham who served under Rooney Lee is also a descendant of Thomas Wickham my first Great Grand father to come to America!

So when you have that Civil War Re-anactment you might want to know those Wickham's and I share the same Great... Grandfather Thomas Wickham senior of Wetherfield Connecticut!

Parker Press? Was James Parker related to My great Grand mother Abigail Parker whose father was John Parker born in 1657?

Lets not forget Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow.

Lets not forget General George Washing who came thru Woodbridge and confered with Captain Thomas Wickham the Partiot brother of supposed Loyalist Parker Wickham. Thomas co owned a privateer sloop called the Hampton Packet carrying 8 cannon and 30 men . Thomas captured 2 Brittish ships and lost one of his 30 men.
MrDoughnut

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#7 Aug 2, 2014
Please excuse the mispelling errors however the data posted is taken from several sites and is basically fact. Other descendants of the various families whose great grand fathers knew my great grand father Thomas Wickham and his children have posted dated Online on ancestor.com . There was a card party at Thomas Wickham jr's hosue in 1679.

For generations every school child in America knew about Nathan Hale, the young school master, who at the time
of the Revolution became an ardent Patriot. Sent across the Sound on a mission to gather information about the
British on Long Island, he was captured near Huntington, sent to New York, and hanged as a spy. His last words
were reported to have been, "I only regret that I have but one life to give for my Country."

John Hale (who was m. to Hannah Nott, daughter of old John Nott) was less prominent than his father or brother,
and the reason may be found in a certain sophomoric trait in his character indicated in the following records. On 4
Dec 1679 "John Hale being complained of for abusiue language & Notorious Ill carriage is by this Court committed
to his Father Hale as his keeper till the Court in March next." The matter came up before then, at a special session
held 22 Jan 1679/80. "Lnt Tho: Holister John Hale Wm Wickham for their vnseasonable meeting at Tho: Wickhams
house Excessive drincking & playing at Cardes ... fined Thirty shillings a peice." It must have been a wild party,
even for Puritan Connecticut. At the same court, a fine was assessed against "Lnt: Tho Holister for breach of the
peace in smiteing downe John Curtice & Joseph Curtice." Nor did his victims escape, for Joseph Curtice was fined
for playing cards and John Curtice for being drunk. "Mr John Hollister for his unseasonable keeping Company
where such great disorders were," also sustained a fine, merely for countenancing such behavior by his presence,
but his superior social position is conceded by the use of the term "Mr." even in this unsavory connection. He
was, of course, brother of the doughty Lieutenant, who felled the two Curtises ... Thomas Wickham was also
fined, for permitting his house to be used by the roisterers.
And that is where this matter ends, so far as our Curtises are concerned. As concerns John Hale, however,
Jacobus continues

John Hale is the grand father of Nathan hale the Patriot hung by the Brittish for being a spie. The rest of the story is too long to post and I haven't got the internet address to give it to you because I forgot to copy and paste it in my records.
MrDoughnut

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#8 Aug 2, 2014
However I can post the rest of the story here::)

But even worse was to come. "It being alledged by Thomas Wickham that John Hale upon Fryday last at night
spake evill against our Lord the King sd Hale was committed to the Goale there to be kept in durance till Further
order." Apparently he was kept in jail only over night, for the next day the Court sat again, to hear the heinous
details and to render judgement. "Thomas Wickham personally appeared & produced Jonathan Strickland &
Susanna Kircom who informed him that John Hale had sayd God Damne King Charles, The sayd persons being
Examined both affirmed they heard him say: God bless King Charles, & in a fitt when he fell off his Chaire &
foamed at his mouth & shakt every Joynt of him they thought he sd God damn King Charles but they durst not

take oath of it he spake so lowe." This evidence was not strong enough for a conviction of lese majesty, and John
Hale was released. If we may interpret the records, we take it that Hale at a drinking party was toasting the King,
but fell off his chair and was so enraged that he turned to cursing the King. Those who were present, not wishing
to get him into further trouble, developed a convenient uncertainty as to what they had actually heard him say. It
may be supposed that he was badly frightened by this experience, and reformed his ways, for his escapades
brighten the pages of the musty court records no more after this episode.
We would not want to leave this matter without mentioning that John Hale and Hannah (Nott) Hale were the
grandparents of Nathan Hale, the Colonial Patriot (Codman, p. 5; also see Note 1).

There are two other items of record that bear on our Curtises in this context as well. Stiles notes the results of a
midnight watermelon raid involving James2 and Joseph2 Curtis:
James and Joseph Curtis are prob. the parties, who in 16__, were (with Thomas Hurlburt, Jr., and Thomas
Wickham) sentenced by the Gen. Ct. to imprisonment during the court's pleasure, for agreeing to rob Richard
Smith's watermelon patch, and not only stealing five melons, but afterwards boasting of it.
Finally there was the matter of the Dix girl. From the Hartford County Courthouse Records:
5 Sep 1702, Joseph Curtis (son of Joseph Curtis of Wethersfield, dec'd) accused by Margaret Dix of same town of
being the father of her child.
Margaret Dix was the daughter of John2 Dix; she would have been several years younger than Joseph3 Curtis,
who would have been about 25-26 at the time. Joseph Curtis married in 1708 to Dorothy Edwards.
Notes:
For generations every school child in America knew about Nathan Hale, the young school master, who at the time
of the Revolution became an ardent Patriot. Sent across the Sound on a mission to gather information about the
British on Long Island, he was captured near Huntington, sent to New York, and hanged as a spy. His last words
were reported to have been, "I only regret that I have but one life to give for my Country."
References
Codman, Hislop. Eliphalet Nott. Wesleyan University Press, Middletown, Ct.: 1971.
Jacobus, D. L. and Waterman, E. F. Hale, House, and Related Families, mainly of the Connecticut River Valley, pp.
20-21. Connecticut Historical Society, Hartford: 1952.
Stiles, Henry R. The History of Ancient Wethersfield, Vol. II, p. 262. Grafton Press, New York: 1904.
Hartford County Courthouse Records reprinted in The American Genealogist, Vol. 22-23-24.
MrDoughnut

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#9 Aug 2, 2014
Of interesting note: 2 of the Bishops of Winchester Cathedral England are said to be of my family tree. The spelling of Wickham and of the old days writings were not consistant as many could not write well period.

All factors considered the data points to the relatives of William the Conqueror via Walchelin Waddard who came over with William in 1066 and Conquered England as being the start of the Wickham line as it changes from Stoke to Wickham.

http://fmg.ac/FMG/Scanned_Sources/TPG/vol_3/p...


This pdf is data that was written by a relative of the Wickham family back in the 1800's in England which tells a story about links to the Stoke or Stokes line.
MrDoughnut

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#10 Aug 2, 2014
I used data from the Wickham Family tree found on ancestor.com

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry....

I want to thank my relatives for letting me post this because I am a direct Descendant of Thomas Wickham:

1 Thomas Wickham 1624-1688 Born England/Died Wethersfield CT.
2 Joseph Wickham 1662-1734
3 Joseph Wickham 1701-1749
4 Joseph Wickham 1728-1782
5 Daniel Hull Wickham 1771-1853
6 George Wickham 1801-1854
7 John Wickham 1826-1888
8 Charles Wickham 1859-1900
9 William H Wickham 1892-1940
10 MyDad
11 Me :)
MrDoughnut

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#12 Aug 2, 2014
General General George Washington who later became the first President of The United States Of America confered with Captain Thomas Wickham the Patriot brother of Parker Wickham the so called Loyalist.
Thomas is also the brother Joseph Wickham 1728-1782
A large part of the family at that time were living on LongIsland. The family was said to be split between the Patriots and Loyalty to the King of England. However some people say that political differences caused Parker Wickham to be accused of being a Loyalist by his political enemies.
Joseph born 1728-1782 was second in line being the second oldest male. for inheritance purposes under Brittish tradition.
After the Revolutionary War an act of attainer took Parker Wickham's inherited properties away. The Oldest house in New York and Robin's Island were seized from Parker. Had the properties gone to his brother Joseph my great grand father who knows they might of been still in the family.:(
MrDoughnut

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#13 Aug 2, 2014
Please Note: My Great... Grand father John Wickham 1826-1888 who married Elenor Merrion. Elenor's grand mother is Anna Mary Mentzenbach. Pay no attention to the "T" in Mentzenbach. She may be related to Wayne my neighbor. Spellings of names often changed after the US Civil War some people say.

Surnames like Merrion, Merian as you will find out have confounded genealogists when researching relatives of people. Many people could not write or changed their last names for many reasons.

I do know I am Irish, French, Canadian/ Quebec, English and German. Considering my link to England's invasion by William the Conquer and his relatives I'm probably part Norman!

You can also find information by using Familysearch.org
MrDoughnut

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#14 Aug 2, 2014
While researching my family history in England I discovered a story about Robin Hood. He was infact a real person who dispised his rich family. The data comes from

http://www.british-history.ac.uk

Copyright 2013 University of London & History of Parliament Trust - All rights reserved

You have to go to the web site and reseach the various town histories of the middle ages.

I found the Robin Hood story on one of the pages on the site and may have it somewhere bundled with many of the stories which I viewed and pasted in MS Word Files. Robin Hood was only a nick name he was actually from a noble family.

Don't ask me About Mary Queen Of Scots because a relative of my ancestors family gave the funeral speech when he was the Bishop of Lincoln.Later he became the Bishop of Winchester but died soon after!

http://archive.org/stream/livesofbishopsof02c...

WILLIAM WICKHAM II. 49

IV. WILLIAM WICKHAM IL

Succeeded A.D. 1595. Died A.D. 1595.

Bishop Wickham was son of John Wickham of
Enfield, Middlesex, by Barbara,* only daughter of
William Parker, a collateral ancestor of the Maccles-
field family, who married Margaret (daughter of John
Worth, Esq. of Durants). John Wickham his father
was son of Thomas Wickham of Swacliffe,f in
Oxfordshire, by Joice Sandbury his wife. The
Bishop was born in the parish of Enfield, in the
manor-house of Honylands, or Pentriches, of which
his father occurs as lessee in the reign of Henry
VIII.(See Sir Giles Capel's grant in the Augmen-
tation office.) After having received his education at
Eton, he became a member of the foundation of
King's College, Cambridge, in 1556 ; fellow of
Eton College, Prebendary of the fourth stall in the
Collegiate Church of St. Peter in Westminster, in
the place of Richard Morley, in 1570; Canon of
Windsor, 1571; Dean of Lincoln, 1577; and after-
wards Bishop of Lincoln. He preached at the
burial of Mary, Queen of Scots, at Peterborough,
Aug. 1, 1587 ; translated from Lincoln to Winchester
about the latter end of March, 1595 ; and died in
Winchester-house in St. Mary Overie's parish, South-
wark, on the 12th of June following. See Wood's
Ath. Oxon. edit. Bliss, vol. 2, col. 832. Wood omits
his appointment as Archdeacon of Surry, 1580: which
he resigned the same year. He was elected to
W'inchester, Jan. 7, 1594, and confirmed Feb. 22,
by Archbishop Whitgift. Reg. Whitgift, Godwin,

Note the Parents of the Bishop.:)

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