Small Town Politics and Ignorance.

Small Town Politics and Ignorance.

Posted in the Irvington Forum

noestablishment

Louisville, KY

#1 Sep 8, 2010
Growing up in a town smaller than Irvington I had the joy of experiencing small town politics and how the ignorance of the townspeople can run like a whitewater river when it comes to choosing their favorite "hole-in-th-wall" politician. Let me assure you, it is a game, that when one stands back and observes is quite comical! First there are the candidates, most have little more than a high school education, or lack the mentallity God gave a goose. They know only what Billy Bob or Jimmy Joe want and that is usually getting the carnival to come to town, or stricter rules at the hog calling contest. When it comes to real issues, such as, bringing industry and jobs to the area, or how do we generate more revenue and make this a positive place that will bring out the desire for others to move here, or what can be done to dress-up our town and make it an oasis for travelers, then they have no sense of how to make it happen. But, they will promise it if it gets them the vote. Then by next election, they have filled their pockets with the townspeoples money, using legal loopholes of course, and may have been able to pull one promise out of the hat;WOW! The carnival came! That's right, just enough to get votes. But nothing more than that.Next I will enlighten you about the "sheep voters" that support the candidate and how it is nothing more than an opportunity for the "no-namers, poor folk" to rub elbows and say "I am good friends with so and so!" When so and so doesn't really care two pence for you! But, they got your vote...
Who knew

Vine Grove, KY

#2 Sep 12, 2010
Don't know who you are but, really???? You have to have a good leader to get anything done. Maybe you need to run for one of the positions. May be interesting. You do make very good points but why post it on this god for saken site, go to city hall and tell them. Don't tell the council members, they can't do anything. They are elected but really don't get a say.
noestablishment

Louisville, KY

#3 Sep 13, 2010
Just a bit of enlightenment for those that are foolish enough to fall prey to the small town political arena. As far as going to city hall, well, one can try talking a rock into movement but it is very likely the rock will not move. Good leader, I agree with you on that, but self satisfaction and greed is not the qualities of good leadership.Listening, being open to constructive suggestion, consideration, and sacrifice are just a few qualities of a good leader... in any capacity. I wouldn't consider running because I have too much common sense for a position that requires none, and I wouldn't win the election for I am all about "Doing the Right Thing." That, for some reason scares people away.I see a problem I rectify it no matter what the costs. Kind of like termites, one can choose to ignore them in hopes that they will just go away, but I have no problem spending the money to eliminate them completely. That doesn't work in politics.(common sense). Have witnessed it myself, right here in Irvington.
Who knew

Vine Grove, KY

#4 Sep 13, 2010
Why not go to the meetings and let them know. Doesn't the Mayor have a time for the public to speak and go on and on and on and on. She will let you take all night if you want.
noestablishment

Louisville, KY

#5 Sep 15, 2010
Who knew wrote:
Why not go to the meetings and let them know. Doesn't the Mayor have a time for the public to speak and go on and on and on and on. She will let you take all night if you want.
Yes, I am sure she does. It is good that they give the public to speak, but it does nothing but deliver a slap in the face of the speaker when the listening end is not doing its part. Not syaing that the Mayor is the only one guilty of if, all politicians are. It's just the world we live in. They appear to be focused on every word you say, but if you ask them to repeat it, they can't, because they just let it go in one ear and out the other, so to speak. but, what the heck, they are getting paid and they have the social status within the "village" that they want so they don't care. Take a drive someday, have a close look around, make a list of the positive things that you can see that have been done by your current politicians. Then make a list of things that have not changed in ten years. Use that as your decision maker on how to vote.
Who knew

Vine Grove, KY

#6 Sep 15, 2010
I have checked into a couple of things you say. Have you checked out what the city council gets paid. I wouldn't sit in their place for that. 1. Do you personally know any of the council members or the mayor?
2. Have you personally gone and spoken one on one with any of them?
3. Have you done your homework to see how things are suppose to go vs how they happen in that town?
4. If you are posting on here adn not doing any of the above, you have not right to gripe. In the city where I live, you can go to City Hall and get the phone number of any council member or leave a message at city hall, they will and do return your calls.
Try it sometime, you may be surprised. Also, if you have not done any of this, you do not have common sense. Try to find out the truth before you bash the Mayor or the Council.
Beth

Louisville, KY

#7 Sep 15, 2010
Who knew wrote:
I have checked into a couple of things you say. Have you checked out what the city council gets paid. I wouldn't sit in their place for that. 1. Do you personally know any of the council members or the mayor?
2. Have you personally gone and spoken one on one with any of them?
3. Have you done your homework to see how things are suppose to go vs how they happen in that town?
4. If you are posting on here adn not doing any of the above, you have not right to gripe. In the city where I live, you can go to City Hall and get the phone number of any council member or leave a message at city hall, they will and do return your calls.
Try it sometime, you may be surprised. Also, if you have not done any of this, you do not have common sense. Try to find out the truth before you bash the Mayor or the Council.
LOL, noestablishment is best friends with a council-person in Irvington. They are highly intelligent, but you can't teach common sense to others, and I believe that was their point.
noestablishment

Louisville, KY

#8 Sep 15, 2010
Beth wrote:
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LOL, noestablishment is best friends with a council-person in Irvington. They are highly intelligent, but you can't teach common sense to others, and I believe that was their point.
I have to concur, Beth is right. And, you would be really surprised at who I DO know in the political area. My father worked in government his whole life, was prominent member of the community as well. I know politicians from small town elected officials such as Dog Catchers all the way up to State Senators and a Past State Governor. They watched me grow up and some actually had a hand in helping raise me for they were friends of the family. They all know where I stand on the trickery and games that goes on in politics. Even though they are politicians themselves, they respect my stand on it. Just not on this site, but around town one can hear the political talk and when one takes a moment to step back and look at "The Big Picture," and listen to people, they will find it is one big Joke. That is the reality, sorry to burst your bubble but "reality Bites." I don't think by saying it's good that the mayor lets people speak their mind, but then turns a deaf ear to it, as does ANY politician, that it can be considered "bashing." Just the cold hard truth to those of You that are too blind to see, once again, the "reality" of it all when you talk politics. As I said, I know a LOT of people that would surprise you; it would surprise you because I am like everyone else, a nobody. I don't go around bragging that I know "certain people" by name for that is nothing mor than me using them to try to make something of myself. I respect them all way to much to use them in that manner. That probably explains why they are STILL "Friends" with me. Bottom line is, its is politics, it is a game, and there is nothing anyone will ever be able to do to make it better. When all is said and done, in a few years come "next" election it will be the same play around lets see what I can get with tons of promises out of these "sheep" we call Voters. Mark it down, it will happen that way, just like it has for Decades...
lack of knowledge

Vine Grove, KY

#9 Sep 20, 2010
Who knew wrote:
Don't know who you are but, really???? You have to have a good leader to get anything done. Maybe you need to run for one of the positions. May be interesting. You do make very good points but why post it on this god for saken site, go to city hall and tell them. Don't tell the council members, they can't do anything. They are elected but really don't get a say.
I find it funny that you posted that the city council doesn't have a say. As a matter of fact, They are the say. If they don't pass it, it doesn't happen. As a matter of fact, a majority of people in this town are bashing the mayor for things not getting done when in reality it was the city council that didn't get things done this term. They declined a majority of the things brought before them. I am telling any one who to vote for because I have always been told that there are two things you don't push on people and that is religion and politics, But I am telling you that before you post things you do need to educate your self in the subject a little better. City council has been able to hide behind the mayor for a while and let her take all the blame. I have just been looking at all my options and have narrowed who I am voting for down to 4 so far and feel that they will do what is for the best interest of our city.
Beth

Louisville, KY

#10 Sep 20, 2010
lack of knowledge wrote:
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I find it funny that you posted that the city council doesn't have a say. As a matter of fact, They are the say. If they don't pass it, it doesn't happen. As a matter of fact, a majority of people in this town are bashing the mayor for things not getting done when in reality it was the city council that didn't get things done this term. They declined a majority of the things brought before them. I am telling any one who to vote for because I have always been told that there are two things you don't push on people and that is religion and politics, But I am telling you that before you post things you do need to educate your self in the subject a little better. City council has been able to hide behind the mayor for a while and let her take all the blame. I have just been looking at all my options and have narrowed who I am voting for down to 4 so far and feel that they will do what is for the best interest of our city.
I can easily guess 3 of them: Bruce Basham, Susie Pollard, and Howard Basham (of no relation to Bruce). Bruce has served to work and volunteer for our community for many years now. Susie has an excellent track record, work history, and demeanor to get things accomplished. And Howard is responsible for our beautiful veteran's memorial and the grant money that is used for its upkeep.
working class

Louisville, KY

#11 Sep 28, 2010
Beth, don't forget Becky Brown. She puts in a ton of time, energy, and money into our heritage festival.
Who1

Vine Grove, KY

#12 Sep 28, 2010
Don't know who you are or really care but you need to get your facts straight. What has the "mayor" tried to do that the council declined???? I would like to see a definate list instead of arbitrary statements.
lack of knowledge wrote:
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I find it funny that you posted that the city council doesn't have a say. As a matter of fact, They are the say. If they don't pass it, it doesn't happen. As a matter of fact, a majority of people in this town are bashing the mayor for things not getting done when in reality it was the city council that didn't get things done this term. They declined a majority of the things brought before them. I am telling any one who to vote for because I have always been told that there are two things you don't push on people and that is religion and politics, But I am telling you that before you post things you do need to educate your self in the subject a little better. City council has been able to hide behind the mayor for a while and let her take all the blame. I have just been looking at all my options and have narrowed who I am voting for down to 4 so far and feel that they will do what is for the best interest of our city.
Who1

Vine Grove, KY

#13 Sep 28, 2010
working class wrote:
Beth, don't forget Becky Brown. She puts in a ton of time, energy, and money into our heritage festival.
Didn't know she was running again. Thanks for the information. She cares about the people here and the kids.

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