Irving Residents To Vote On Beer Sales

After a successful petition drive, Irving residents will get to vote again on whether to allow beer and wine sales at retail stores, NBC 5 reported.

[John]

The costs associated with liquor sales(code and law enforcement mostly) vastly outweigh the comparative pennies derived from sales. Most Irving residents can drive 10 minutes to purchase alcohol in Dallas and most eateries can serve alcohol with meals. Irving residents have voted down the proposal in 3 recent elections but there is always plenty of cash(and mis-information)behind the move to legalize sales. The proposal is bad for Irving...vote it down again!!

[Good Old Days]

I agree John . I cannot see where this can benifit Irving . This town is allready trashy enough without adding tacky beer stores and drive thru beer barns .
No one loves a good cold beer better than I , but I much rather drive the 1o minutes away to get it .
Lets do something to improve Irving , not bring it down any further .

[American]

you can bet you a## i Will not vote yes!!! I hate to say it (well not really) but irving is trashy enough especially with the (non americans) that are used to just throwing their
trash & BEER cans & bottles anywhere they want (even in my front yard) because their country allows it!
i drink beer but i also own & use a trash can! VOTE NO TO LIQUOR SALES IN IRVING!P L E A S E

[Sarina1014]

American wrote:

you can bet you a## i Will not vote yes!!! I hate to say it (well not really) but irving is trashy enough especially with the (non americans) that are used to just throwing their
trash & BEER cans & bottles anywhere they want (even in my front yard) because their country allows it!
i drink beer but i also own & use a trash can! VOTE NO TO LIQUOR SALES IN IRVING!P L E A S E

How about voting YES to beer and wine sales and enforcing the immigration laws that are on the books. Deporting illegal aliens will not completely clean up what was once a nice town, but it's a start. With the municipal funds saved from not having to feed, house, educate, and medicate illegal aliens, the city could put these funds to work for legal residents and let the clean up begin.

[richard head]

Ya. I like to vote for beer on sale. Cost less.

[EricDallas]

Buying beer is not a crime. It is like saying you can't sell lightbulbs in certain parts of town. It just doesn't make good sense. If there is a problem with the appearance of beer stores, then you need to address developement codes, not stop someone from making a living.

Now when you are drinking beer, and you get a buzz going, what happens when you run out? You send someone to the store for more, or you drive your half-drunken self to the store. If you have to drive 15 miles versus 1/4 mile or even walk to get to a beer store, which would be better in saving lives from drunk drivers?

You liberals need to stop trying to control people's lives. If beer were illegal, that is one thing, but you are trying to punish someone for trying to buy something that is legal.

I am an Irving resident, and will be voting for the sale of beer, not because I want beer in my neighborhood, but because you liberals are not going to dictate to me what is right and wrong. If it fails, then I will sign the petition again and again until it does pass.

You liberals are more concerned with controlling peoples lives that you are with actually helping someone. Go give a turkey to the homeless shelter for God's sake.

[E-Nasty]

I don't see why it is a problem for businesses to decide whether or not they want to sell alcohol to law-abiding people of age.

I feel the same way about anti smoking bans in businesses.

Why can't places choose what they want to offer in their establishment?

EricDallas is correct on this issue.

[Irving Resident]

This is for EricDallas. I have been an Irving resident for 56 years. 35 of those years have been south of HWY 183.I and many others from South Irving DO NOT want beer/wine sold in our part of town. Our part of Irving is trashy enough. If the city can divide the issue like only allowing beer/wine sells in "North Irving" (north of HWY 114) I would vote for that. You can see the difference in code enforcement between the "two cities". "South Irving" is already nothing but Dollar Stores and crappy car repair places.

[Good Old Days]

The issue with alot of us south Irving folks is code inforcement . South Irving is a dump . It was not allways that way .
When city leaders wake up and start doing there jobs I will be glade to vote "yes " . Little beer stores on every corner is not going to help our situation .
P.S. I d___ sure not a liberal .

[EricDallas]

Irving Resident wrote:

This is for EricDallas. I have been an Irving resident for 56 years. 35 of those years have been south of HWY 183.I and many others from South Irving DO NOT want beer/wine sold in our part of town. Our part of Irving is trashy enough. If the city can divide the issue like only allowing beer/wine sells in "North Irving" (north of HWY 114) I would vote for that. You can see the difference in code enforcement between the "two cities". "South Irving" is already nothing but Dollar Stores and crappy car repair places.

Unfortunately this is an issue for the planning and zoning committee in Irving. Selling beer has nothing to do with the trashy neighborhood. It is easy to look at an area and assume it is the beer sales that brings the trash, but that is not the case. When an area ages it becomes infested with trash. The only way to prevent this is to have stringent enforcement of codes already in place. When a fence begins to fall down, someone needs to fix it. All of these issues need to be planned out in advance. A huge apartment complex that is beautiful today will be trashed out in 20 years if no one maintains it properly. The city needs to keep up the code compliance issues. Beer has nothing to do with it. Maybe you are picturing wine-os on the corners and such, but that happens because the police department is not doing its job.

I would be more concerned with folks like Rocket Sign Shop placing signs all over the place. Things like that will ruin the value of your neighborhood faster than a Kroger or 7-Eleven selling Beer does.

[EricDallas]

Good Old Days wrote:

The issue with alot of us south Irving folks is code inforcement . South Irving is a dump . It was not allways that way .
When city leaders wake up and start doing there jobs I will be glade to vote "yes " . Little beer stores on every corner is not going to help our situation .
P.S. I d___ sure not a liberal .

Tax revenue from beer sales would actually help the area. It should anyway.

[teresa761 -Irving TX]

How can you "people" sit there & say it'll be a bad decision to vote for alcohol sales in Irving. I'd vote for it. Can any of you "geniuses" tell me it would be different from right now. I'd go through the parks here right now & see beer cans ANYWAY! F'ing morons is all you people are. You think you're sooooo f'ing smart. Ya'll think you would see more beer cans thank right now? Wake the f... up PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!! Where do you live? Would you rather pay more in property taxes? If you would you're really super stupid!!!!!! I know someone that works in the parks dept. He says he sees more beer cans (it's not different from Dallas, you dumbasses). Honestly, ya'll think that we don't see beer cans now? How f'ing old are ya'll? Really? You think noone's going to go to Dallas anyway and buy beer? What about the stop 'n go just west of valley view, that area is Ft Worth. Why not bring beer & alcohol sales to Irving? What difference would it make? Tell me why you would vote it down? Can you honestly tell me the crime level would be worse? Crime has risen up for years & Irving has ALWAYS been dry. That is VERY stupid. I doubt any of ya'll have not had a drink. And look at it this way, gas prices are going up, Irving needs more revenue because of that, people are lsing their jobs, companies are leaving Irving and going overseas because of the UN-AMERICAN CEOs. We need all the extra businesses we can get.
In short: Vote FOR beer & wine & alcohol sales to be held in Irving; we do not need anymore f'ing apartments in Irving either (that just brings in a worse class of people; they need to have check stations here and check on people's true residential status.
Peace LOSERS!!!!!!!!!!

[MJR]

With Irving having the vast majority of illegals in South Irving and believe me they like to party and trash all yards. Why would anyone want to vote for this issue? Take a good look at the city and what illegal immigration has done to it.

[EricDallas]

MJR wrote:

With Irving having the vast majority of illegals in South Irving and believe me they like to party and trash all yards. Why would anyone want to vote for this issue? Take a good look at the city and what illegal immigration has done to it.

Maybe the problem is with illegal immigration, not beer sales. You ever think about that?

[jlw]

Now that's funny, someone from San Antonio commenting on illegals.

[MJR]

Only because even though I now live in San Antonio I used to live in Irving. Yes we have them here too in San Antonio and they are scattered thru out the city unlike in Irving the "majority" of them live in the South Side. But than all you have to do is look at that part of the city and see what a "slum" it has become. In case you have not read or kept up with current events the Houston and Dallas areas and their suburbs are the breeding grounds for illegals.

[C Martinez]

I will vote yes.It is up to apartment managers to monotor the beer cans/bottles thrown around,and for the code infoce officers to get busy and get strict with neighborhoods keeping there yards trashed out with beer/trash,Start giving citations.The city of Irving needs more revenue.Grand Prarie is wet,now even Cockrell Hill /Oakcliff is wet,now Irving nedds to join in,

[EricDallas]

C Martinez wrote:

I will vote yes.It is up to apartment managers to monotor the beer cans/bottles thrown around,and for the code infoce officers to get busy and get strict with neighborhoods keeping there yards trashed out with beer/trash,Start giving citations.The city of Irving needs more revenue.Grand Prarie is wet,now even Cockrell Hill /Oakcliff is wet,now Irving nedds to join in,

I'll drink to that! Hick-up!

[T_LC]

I will again vote no.....look at S. Irving and what it has become with the pawn shops, the cash checking place's, the so called auto repair shops that are no more than a front for illegal activities such as the day laborers that hang out in the parking lots, the ID rings, the drugs and stolen merchandise such as rims, stereo's and tire's, the Mom and Pop "diners" that are being shut down for their many code violations, the gang violence, that end of the City is bad enough and property value has declined enough as it is, why on earth would anyone want to add to the filth by adding beer stores? our Cops have all the work they can handle now, why add to that by adding fool's loitering in beer store parking lots? bum's hanging out begging for a few bucks and a bottle of booze? look at what the Irving Mall has become, noone with any sense would even consider shopping there now and if they did there are so few stores now the place might as well just shut down, and no stores would ever be approved to open up here in Valley Ranch so S. Irving would be the ones stuck with them and that would not be fair to all the good folks down there that are already dealing with so much, no way would beer sales aid this City enough to balance what it would cost us all in the end. Someone brought up other Cities that are wet and I ask you that did to compare the state of those Cities, everywhere that sell's alcohol is or turns into the most ran down section of that City and the part of our City that the stores will go up in is already ran down enough. To each your own but my vote will again be NO.

[Good Old Days]

Pepole that do not leave here do not understand .